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Re: 2012 Cyclist fatalities

Postby sogood » Wed Feb 01, 2012 10:49 am

Is it sampling error, but I've noticed there's been a high percentage of 60+ age group involved in fatal and other bike accidents.
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Re: 2012 Cyclist fatalities

Postby Livetoride » Wed Feb 01, 2012 10:53 am

sogood wrote:Is it sampling error,

Not sure what you mean mate..
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Re: 2012 Cyclist fatalities

Postby sogood » Wed Feb 01, 2012 11:04 am

Livetoride wrote:Not sure what you mean mate..

"Sampling" in terms of the reports (newspaper, forums etc) I come across.
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Re: 2012 Cyclist fatalities

Postby zero » Sat Feb 04, 2012 12:49 pm

sogood wrote:
Livetoride wrote:Not sure what you mean mate..

"Sampling" in terms of the reports (newspaper, forums etc) I come across.


its not sampling error. The elderly and very young have far more cycling accidents per km, also far more at fault accidents.
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Re: 2012 Cyclist fatalities

Postby Wayfarer » Sat Feb 04, 2012 1:45 pm

zero wrote:
sogood wrote:
Livetoride wrote:Not sure what you mean mate..

"Sampling" in terms of the reports (newspaper, forums etc) I come across.


its not sampling error. The elderly and very young have far more cycling accidents per km, also far more at fault accidents.

Makes sense; I see kids falling over all the time at the skatepark. Young people and Older people have a lessened sense of balance and slightly slower coordination. They might just be smarter than the rest of us though :lol:
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Re: 2012 Cyclist fatalities

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Re: 2012 Cyclist fatalities

Postby DavidTomic » Fri Feb 10, 2012 9:14 am

bdstratton wrote:Another cyclist was killed this morning


I was just reading about that story. Scary thing is that I ride through that exact intersection every single day on my way to and from work.

The Herald Sun article seems to have a bit more detail about the event.

http://www.heraldsun.com.au/news/more-n ... 6267337845

I'm not on the bike at the moment because I've just had surgery on Wednesday, but on a 'normal' day I'd be riding through that exact spot not too much later than the accident happened.

Definitely not a scene that I would have liked to come across while riding into work!
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Re: 2012 Cyclist fatalities

Postby hosko » Fri Feb 10, 2012 9:27 am

Doesn't sound good.

No lights, no helmet and possibility that she "may" have been listening to music.

Sensory deprivation whilst not wearing protective gear. As they stated that she suffered a head injury, maybe a helmet might have her still breathing.

Very sad start to the day.
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Re: 2012 Cyclist fatalities

Postby Livetoride » Fri Feb 10, 2012 9:54 am

That is shocking poor family. No lights and no helmet in the early dark hours of the morning... why oh why do people do this...
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Re: 2012 Cyclist fatalities

Postby Sydguy » Fri Feb 10, 2012 12:37 pm

Hardly shocked by this accident, given the information in the article. Still very sad for all involved, and we will never hear the cyclists side of the story.

Interesting to read the last few paragraphs with all the people falling off their bikes, can everyone please focus and stay upright. Three people in one morning falling off and needing paramedics. More newspaper sampling or just a very bad morning for Melbourne?

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Re: 2012 Cyclist fatalities

Postby CommuRider » Fri Feb 10, 2012 7:34 pm

So sorry to hear that Ox. Please pass on my condolences. Hope the two kids are receiving lots of hugs atm.
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Re: 2012 Cyclist fatalities

Postby KonaCommuter » Sat Feb 11, 2012 9:27 pm

http://www.facebook.com/QueenslandPolice?sk=wall

Update – Fatal traffic crash, Coombabah
FEBRUARY 11, 2012, 7:24 PM
A man who was critically injured in a traffic crash at Coombabah this morning has died in hospital.

The crash occurred just before 10am when a vehicle travelling north on Oxley Drive struck a power pole and continued across the median strip into the southbound lane where it collided with a cyclist.

The 26-year-old cyclist was transported to the Gold Coast Hospital, but later died as a result of his injuries.

Police are seeking anyone who may have witnessed the crash or a white Ford Falcon utility being driven along Oxley Drive prior to the crash to contact Crime Stoppers on 1800 333 000.
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Re: 2012 Cyclist fatalities

Postby find_bruce » Sun Feb 12, 2012 4:48 pm

I hate it when this thread gets bumped back to the top. Twice in two days is awful. My heart goes out to the families missing loved ones today
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Re: 2012 Cyclist fatalities

Postby RobM » Sun Feb 12, 2012 9:54 pm

KonaCommuter wrote:http://www.facebook.com/QueenslandPolice?sk=wall

Update – Fatal traffic crash, Coombabah
FEBRUARY 11, 2012, 7:24 PM
A man who was critically injured in a traffic crash at Coombabah this morning has died in hospital.

The crash occurred just before 10am when a vehicle travelling north on Oxley Drive struck a power pole and continued across the median strip into the southbound lane where it collided with a cyclist.

The 26-year-old cyclist was transported to the Gold Coast Hospital, but later died as a result of his injuries.

Police are seeking anyone who may have witnessed the crash or a white Ford Falcon utility being driven along Oxley Drive prior to the crash to contact Crime Stoppers on 1800 333 000.


Gee whiz. Car wasnt even on his side of the road. Feel very sorry for this guys family - my family fret whenever i ride and i can understand why. He was only a year younger than me. Too young to be lost like this :(
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Re: 2012 Cyclist fatalities

Postby myforwik » Mon Feb 20, 2012 8:50 pm

hosko wrote:Doesn't sound good.

No lights, no helmet and possibility that she "may" have been listening to music.

Sensory deprivation whilst not wearing protective gear. As they stated that she suffered a head injury, maybe a helmet might have her still breathing.

Very sad start to the day.


I can't believe what the police and that article have stated. If this was two cars, the officer would never have mouthed off about 'what they think'. When there is a motor vehicle death they dont even tell you the basics, but in this article they proceed to tell you who had what light and even went so far as to say he wasn't speeding! unbelievable.

I get the impression that once she didn't have a helmet they don't really care - must have been cyclists fault. They mention she had headphones. Wow. Why not mention that the driver owns a mobile phone and a car stereo?

The article really highlights the latent bias people have against cyclists. I have no doupt that such bias spreds all the way through the investigation.
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Re: 2012 Cyclist fatalities

Postby jules21 » Fri Mar 09, 2012 9:11 am

that should be a life sentence as far as i'm concerned. anyone who willingly puts others lives at risk like that should be put away forever.
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Re: 2012 Cyclist fatalities

Postby zero » Fri Mar 09, 2012 9:30 am

It looks like a 100km/hr rear ender in a 60 zone, on a road marked up with cycle lanes, that is adjacent and parallel to a highway designed for such speeds.

He's been charged with the offence that carries a 20 year max sentence, this is one of the times where I think the judge should start looking at the upper end of that punishment range seriously.
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Re: 2012 Cyclist fatalities

Postby Livetoride » Fri Mar 09, 2012 2:36 pm

Absolute scum bag, 20 years, sod that, put him in a mental home for the criminally deranged for the rest of his life, he was speeding, didn't stop, fled the scene and was under the influence... His parents should be done also, obviously some parents don't educate their kids on right and wrong. This really gets my goat..
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Re: 2012 Cyclist fatalities

Postby Mulger bill » Fri Mar 09, 2012 9:42 pm

:( RIP sibling.

Hey judge, make sure that book you throw at this jerk is War and Peace, not the collected wit and wisdom of GW Bush...
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Re: 2012 Cyclist fatalities

Postby Sydguy » Sun Apr 01, 2012 12:05 pm

Cyclist killed this morning, 1 April 2012, on the NSW Central Coast.

Elderly driver in shock, police investigating the circumstances.

https://www.facebook.com/note.php?note_ ... 5313866394

Link is to NSW Police Face Book page on the incident.

Such a beautiful day for cycling, such a shame this continues to happen.

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Re: 2012 Cyclist fatalities

Postby Ozkaban » Tue Apr 03, 2012 11:16 am

Seems another fatality in Southern QLD

Shook me up a bit. I'm 37 too...

A CYCLIST has died after a collision with a ute in southern Queensland.

Police said the bike and the ute were travelling in the same direction on the Barwon Highway at Goondiwindi at 5.40am (AEST) today.

The 37-year-old cyclist was taken to Goondiwindi Hospital where he later died.

Read more: http://www.news.com.au/breaking-news/ma ... z1qw4mMKlX
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Re: 2012 Cyclist fatalities

Postby find_bruce » Wed Apr 04, 2012 1:10 pm

Ozkaban wrote:Seems another fatality in Southern QLD

Shook me up a bit. I'm 37 too...

A CYCLIST has died after a collision with a ute in southern Queensland.

Police said the bike and the ute were travelling in the same direction on the Barwon Highway at Goondiwindi at 5.40am (AEST) today.

The 37-year-old cyclist was taken to Goondiwindi Hospital where he later died.

Read more: http://www.news.com.au/breaking-news/ma ... z1qw4mMKlX

Yet another all too common fatality - male rider hit from behind. See the report by the Australian Transport Safety Bureau 2006 report on deaths of cyclists due to road crashes

Australian Transport Safety Bureau, 2006 wrote:The most common type of crash in which cyclists were fatally injured was the cyclist being hit from behind by a motor vehicle travelling in the same lane in the same direction. Cyclists riding on rural roads are particularly at risk of being run over from behind.
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In each of the 5-year periods since 1990 (1991–95, 1996–00 and 2001–05) males accounted for over 80 per cent of cyclist deaths in road crashes.

My thoughts go out to his grieving family & friends
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Re: 2012 Cyclist fatalities

Postby Sydguy » Tue Apr 24, 2012 2:18 pm

Hi Guys

This is sadly a fatality however the exact circumstances are to be determined.

At this stage it appears a female cyclist hit a parked car, and was later found deceased.

http://www.abc.net.au/news/2012-04-24/w ... et/3969684

Let us hope it is properly investigated.

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Re: 2012 Cyclist fatalities

Postby alan parker » Sat Apr 28, 2012 4:11 pm

Bicycles are safe in five EU countries but not the US. However 15 US cities have roads safety records for all road users comparable to the five bicycle friendly countries in EUROPE. The notion that bicycle lanes are safe without 50 Km/Hr speed limit is not true. The best thing that US bicyclists of all ages have going for them is a 25 Mile/Hr limit on most residential streets that are not main roads.

EU countries’ policies on road safety for their citizens have differed greatly in the past. Since 1990 remarkable progress has been made. In all countries fatality risk has been reduced by more than 40%. In 2010, the lowest fatality rates found in the United Kingdom 3.0, the Netherlands 3.7 and Sweden 3.0 deaths per 100.000 persons (IRTAD 2011). In the US the death rate is far higher at 10.5 per 100.000 persons. Even so there are there are 16 cities with much lower death rates per 100,000 population of 10.5 for all road users (Garrick & Marshal 2011). All these are cities bicycle and pedestrian friendly. ( Alan Parker 2011)

In the Netherlands cyclists’ deaths have reduced from 185 in 2009 to 162 in 2010. Since 1970 the reduction in road fatalities has benefited all age groups but the most impressive reduction has concerned young bicyclists (the age group 0 to 14) for which fatalities decreased by 95%, from 459 in 1970 to 23 in 2008 (IRTAD 2011). 70% of Dutch urban roads have a 30 Km/hr speed limit and the police take a tougher approach to unsafe drivers.

Dutch road deaths increased from 1950 (1,020), peaked in 1972 (3440) and then declined to 691 in 2010. The population grew from 10 million to 16.5 million in 2010. In 2010 the traffic death rate was 3.7, deaths/100,000 population. Since 1970, the reduction in child deaths (0 to 14) from 459 to 23 in 2008 was impressive, decreasing by 95%. For the elderly of 65+ years deaths reduced from 648 in 1970 to 187 in 2009 (IRTAD 2011).

Dutch Roads are safer because 70% of urban streets had speed limits of 30 km/h or less. in 2008. A similar development took place on rural roads. On all roads with bicycle lanes the speed limit is 50 km/hr. The notion that providing bicycle lanes with higher speed limits like USA is safe, is not true.

According to Wellemen, the former Manager of the Dutch Bicycle Masterplan, (NEPP 3 1998) the most important measure in increasing bicycle use in Dutch cities is reducing car parking on a systematic basis in inner urban areas which constrains car use (Wellemen 1999)

References

Parker, Alan A.  In Europe 250 watt pedelecs reduce pollution and improve the safety and mobility of young and elderly riders.  Australasian Transport Research Forum 2011 Proceedings 28 - 30 September 2011, Adelaide,
AustraliaGarrick & Marshal (2011) Beyond Safety in Numbers: Why Bike Friendly Cities are Safer, http://bit.ly/oVXJBU Archive search: use "Search" window
.IRTAD (2011) Annual report 2010,International Road Traffic and Accident Database by International Traffic Safety Data and Analysis Group http://www.Iirtad .net.

Wellemen, A G (1999) The Dutch Bicycle Master Plan:Description and Evaluation in a historical context, (English version) Ministry of Transport and Public Works and Water Management .Available free. Hard copy available from Alan. A. Parker.
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