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Re: Upgrading wheels...

Postby sdnelson19 » Wed Apr 11, 2012 8:42 pm

i went from ksyrium elites to a hand built set from Greg at TWE. MASSIVE improvement. Had been looking at the RS80 myself, glad i sent Greg an email. Cannot recommend them enough.
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Re: Upgrading wheels...

Postby PawPaw » Thu Apr 12, 2012 8:44 am

sdnelson19 wrote:i went from ksyrium elites to a hand built set from Greg at TWE. MASSIVE improvement. Had been looking at the RS80 myself, glad i sent Greg an email. Cannot recommend them enough.


what did you pay and how much do they weigh? standard or deep dish? TWE have no prices on their site.
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Re: Upgrading wheels...

Postby roreybellows » Thu Apr 12, 2012 10:01 am

PawPaw wrote:
sdnelson19 wrote:i went from ksyrium elites to a hand built set from Greg at TWE. MASSIVE improvement. Had been looking at the RS80 myself, glad i sent Greg an email. Cannot recommend them enough.


what did you pay and how much do they weigh? standard or deep dish? TWE have no prices on their site.


+1 also very interested in what you bought from TWE
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Re: Upgrading wheels...

Postby biker jk » Thu Apr 12, 2012 11:00 am

Well among the wheels you listed it's quite a mixed bag of attributes. Bear in mind that the Zipp Firecrests are full carbon clinchers so the braking won't be great on long/steep decents and worse in the wet. So these would be better suited to racing if you regularly do long/steep descents on recreational rides. If you do a lot of climbing and descending then I would go for the RS80s (and even better the Dura Ace C24s which can be had for less than $800 a set). Another point is that the deep dish rims are a lot stiffer so you will feel the bumps and bad roads.
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Re: Upgrading wheels...

Postby sdnelson19 » Thu Apr 12, 2012 12:03 pm

roreybellows wrote:
PawPaw wrote:
sdnelson19 wrote:i went from ksyrium elites to a hand built set from Greg at TWE. MASSIVE improvement. Had been looking at the RS80 myself, glad i sent Greg an email. Cannot recommend them enough.


what did you pay and how much do they weigh? standard or deep dish? TWE have no prices on their site.


+1 also very interested in what you bought from TWE


there are no prices on his site because he's too busy building wheels to update it- and there are too many diff combinations or rims/hubs/spokes... anyway, mine are 38mm alloy clinchers, about 1600g (i weigh 95kg so cant have anything too light) and were just over a grand (delivered). That was with his best hubs/spokes. Flick him an email ( [email protected] ) with a budget in mind and he'll be able to tell you what he can do. I told him initially i wanted to spend a grand, weigh 95kg and ride mostly flats.. this is the combination that we came up with.... Image

from order to delivery was under 10days too (and i live in country SA)
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Upgrading wheels...

Postby gassyndrome » Thu Apr 12, 2012 12:46 pm

They look great. Well done!
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Re: Upgrading wheels...

Postby vander » Thu Apr 12, 2012 12:54 pm

Also dealt with Greg and he is great.
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Re: Upgrading wheels...

Postby sdnelson19 » Thu Apr 12, 2012 1:22 pm

gassyndrome wrote:They look great. Well done!


they ride even better.... (and 2 weeks after i got mine a mate was so impressed he got some of the 30mm deep version)
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Re: Upgrading wheels...

Postby steveagle » Fri Apr 13, 2012 1:43 am

Im curious if the TWE custom wheels would be any better off than cheaper Dura ace C24s which are cheaper and lighter? I would expect the hubs and spokes of the C24s to be equally top notch...
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Re: Upgrading wheels...

Postby sdnelson19 » Sat Apr 14, 2012 8:55 am

I guess it depends what you want out of a wheel.. Personally i like the fact that if i break something i only have to send it back to Greg for a (relatively) cheap fix, the wheels have been built for ME and not the general public.. After 1 ride on these i came to the realisation that i'd happily have paid more for them.

For my weight/power, anything lighter would've broken far too soon for my liking.

But for me, the biggest thing i can say about them is that i'd happily talk friends into buying from him- and would happily buy from him again myself.

(and they look freakin' awesome)
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Re: Upgrading wheels...

Postby Chuck » Sat Apr 14, 2012 9:16 pm

Lots of great info in this thread, cheers guys :)
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Re: Upgrading wheels...

Postby Dr.Nate » Sun Apr 15, 2012 1:32 pm

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Got a great deal on Mavic Kysrium SL at the LBS and honestly I know they aren't the lightest fastest wheels out there, for the riding I do they are already overkill! Would have liked the Campag Shamals but was working out to too much extra $$$ to change cassette etc... Anyway thx for all the info guys.
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Re: Upgrading wheels...

Postby Ken Ho » Sun Apr 15, 2012 5:56 pm

Nice outcome. You got the ones you wanted, which is always good.
My Shamals arrived on Friday, so I'm sharing the excitement of new wheels.
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Re: Upgrading wheels...

Postby cavebear2 » Mon Apr 16, 2012 12:38 am

Greg's TWE wheels are fantastic. I've got a pair of XR380 clinchers - beautifully engineered rear hub with aero spokes, 1350gms per pair including skewers & rim tape. These wheels have done more than 26,000km with no problems. Rims still in good condition - I look after them and use Koolstop Salmon pads. Both wheels are still within 1mm of true - I've ridden long distances on some very rough roads in regional WA. Rear free hub purrs quietly and can not be heard after greasing. :D

I've just ordered another set - XR200's which come in at 1300gms and $900 including postage to Perth (I'm 68kgs)
Keep in mind that you may not get this price as it's a discounted 'returning customer' price.
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Re: Upgrading wheels...

Postby PawPaw » Mon Apr 16, 2012 12:48 pm

Dr.Nate wrote:Got a great deal on Mavic Kysrium SL at the LBS and honestly I know they aren't the lightest fastest wheels out there, for the riding I do they are already overkill! Would have liked the Campag Shamals but was working out to too much extra $$$ to change cassette etc... Anyway thx for all the info guys.


What did you pay for the SL's?
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Re: Upgrading wheels...

Postby toppity » Mon Apr 16, 2012 12:55 pm

PawPaw wrote:
toppity wrote:I'm about 100kg. I've had a set of RS80s that came on my CAAD9 for 18 months now. They have done a heap of km's and are still great. I've raced and trained on them with zero problems.


Forget talking in months. How many km's ya got on tha RS80s; and what kind of of terrain? how many pot holes have you jumped? how much gravel road? etc.


I've probably done 8,000-10,000km's on them. Terrain is a mixture of good to fair roads. I live in Country Victoria so we get all types of roads. I had the spokes retensioned about 1500km's ago. Not because thy were out of true, but because I was noticing some flex. The retension did the job. I have only ever trued them once apart from that when they got a little out of true. probably never done more than 100kms on gravel, but jumped, and hit a few pot holes.
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Re: Upgrading wheels...

Postby idler » Mon Apr 16, 2012 12:57 pm

Where does TWE source their rims and hubs - what make are they?
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Re: Upgrading wheels...

Postby PawPaw » Mon Apr 16, 2012 1:14 pm

cavebear2 wrote:Greg's TWE wheels are fantastic. I've got a pair of XR380 clinchers - beautifully engineered rear hub with aero spokes, 1350gms per pair including skewers & rim tape.


Wow, that weight is unbelievable. AFAIK, Greg's xr380 rims are alloy and weigh 550g each. = 1100g.
Are you sure your XR380s weigh 1350 grams? That's pretty much impossible with 550g rims.
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Re: Upgrading wheels...

Postby PawPaw » Mon Apr 16, 2012 1:21 pm

idler wrote:Where does TWE source their rims and hubs - what make are they?


Another builder reckons the alloys come out of the same factory as KinLin's. They certainly look the same, with TWE stickers; and have similar model numbers.
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Upgrading wheels...

Postby toolonglegs » Mon Apr 16, 2012 4:09 pm

Makes sense... He is a wheel builder... Not a manufacturer after all. Has to source his parts from somewhere.
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Re: Upgrading wheels...

Postby Dr.Nate » Mon Apr 16, 2012 8:39 pm

PawPaw wrote:
Dr.Nate wrote:Got a great deal on Mavic Kysrium SL at the LBS and honestly I know they aren't the lightest fastest wheels out there, for the riding I do they are already overkill! Would have liked the Campag Shamals but was working out to too much extra $$$ to change cassette etc... Anyway thx for all the info guys.


What did you pay for the SL's?


I paid $600 for the pair... But had to give the LBS the RS 30's .. I did want the RS80's but they didn't have any in stock and its a little difficult for me to get to the LBS as i'm up in the blue mountains so I settled for the offer of $600 for the kysrium SL.
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