Same herestevepedlin wrote:I've been using tri-flow, a wet ptfe based lube. not on the list.
lube lube lube
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Re: Type of Chain Lubricants (Polls)
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Re: Type of Chain Lubricants (Polls)
Postby Oh Wheely » Sun Apr 29, 2012 10:33 pm
Mainly because I now live in an agricultural area, that has main highways between the towns and dirt roads everywhere else, and dust and crap from all the ploughing and top soil blowing away, just covers the sealed roads with GRIT and DUST.
Since it's a REAL issue to shield the chain or enclose the drive system etc... I have more or less given up the idea of anything less than either a more or less totally enclosed drive or moving to hydraulics, or to use dry lubes - that are self cleaning, in copoius amounts.
My bike is my sole mode of transport so it gets treated like a work vehicle, I am not going to pull the chain off every week and clean it and dry it and oil it and wipe it..... only to repeat the process.
Your damned right I sulk and cry and throw temper tantrums - because I'd really like to keep all the crap off the chain and gears in the first place.
So I have just given up cleaning with scrubbing brushes, solvents, compressed air and more scrubbing and brushing and solvents and relubing and wiping and another 4 or 5 days later the chain and gears are covered in black grinding paste again and then the endless weekly clean and lube and doing that month in, month out, year in and year out......
I can make my chains shiny and clean and internally free of all grit and crap - but a week later, it's all back to square one..... full of free grinding compound.
I have also found that the total loss "constant drip feed" oiling systems that are great on motorbikes are not so good on bicycles, nor are copoius regular drenchings of the chain - to keep the crud flushing off the chain.....
Vegetable oils are great - but they tend to dry into a varnish when the excess lands everywhere else and never gets wiped up.
All the wet lubes attract dirt, all the dry ones - well Tri Flow Sucked, the Lightning lubes are fine - but too expensive in their TINY little premium priced bottles, and I am thinking that the Squirt lubricant may be the way to go.
Apply weekly and it's self cleaning as I go.
That is about all a MODERN chain lube should be.
I'd still rather that the chain drives be fully enclosed and running in an oil bath, or that a directly driven gear box and shaft drive be fitted into the frame.
Hydraulics ARE good, but at this stage - the power losses are too high to accomodate with the mere mortal power source.
I also hate buying the teeny little bottles of "speciality lubes", I'd rather just get one or two, one liter bottles of it, and come back for seconds after 20 years.
If I could give the chain a good weekly weed and feed with a decent douse of the self cleaning lube and be done with it, I'd be happy with that.
The White Lightning "CLEAN" is sold here in 1 liter bottles.... I think I feel a purchase coming on - unless the Squirt people can make me a similar offer, I will get this. it builds up crud around the jockey wheels but applying 5ml or 10ml every week, a quick wipe and doing nothing else, has much appeal.
http://www.bumsonbikes.com.au/bikes/bik ... r-758.html#
Time to go cry and hit the pillows, "Ohh my chain gets dirty and I have to clean it again".... Boo Hooooo.
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Re: Type of Chain Lubricants (Polls)
Postby il padrone » Sun Apr 29, 2012 10:48 pm
"An unjustified and unethical imposition on a healthy activity."
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Re: Type of Chain Lubricants (Polls)
Postby Oh Wheely » Sun Apr 29, 2012 11:19 pm
Ummmmm my bike already has a side stand.il padrone wrote:I am led to believe this is a very effective solution to the problem.
No serious - what is the brand name and model of the internally geared hub?
The fixed ratio chain with the guards looks good and almost totally screening of the dust.
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Re: Type of Chain Lubricants (Polls)
Postby il padrone » Sun Apr 29, 2012 11:33 pm
The chain cover is the Hebie Chainglider - apparently very effective at keeping the chain clean.
http://www.thorncycles.co.uk/forums/ind ... 5#msg18935
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Postby drubie » Mon Apr 30, 2012 12:32 am
but really, that's rubbish. We get none of it because the choices are illusory.
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Re: Type of Chain Lubricants (Polls)
Postby eeksll » Mon Apr 30, 2012 12:45 am
finish line dry lube - sticky, thick, dirty, impossible to wipe off
RnR Gold - messy application, the stream while turning the cranks, black spots everywhere, I found I could not get it too last, others on the forum have been quite successful with it
EDIT: i meant pro link not tri flo
pro link - makes the chain feel smooth, quiet and slick. Is not DRY, anytime I touch the chain i have to wash my hands, easy to wipe off before next application (not sticky), last longer than RnR gold, not as long as squirt. I use this on the roadie
Squirt Lube - seems to last the longest, does not seem to work too well in the wet, it is dry, requires an initial degrease which a mate did , I use this on the commuter
Purple Extreme - I have a bottle never tried it cause I have to degrease the chain first, I'll probably use this on the mtb if I ever ride it enough to require the first lube
RnR Gold tells you to wipe it off as much as you can, which I did, but I am starting to wonder if I used it like how I use the other lubes (wipe before application and dont wipe after) it might last longer.
I don't actually purposefully use different lubes for different bikes, its just kinda worked out that way.
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Re: Type of Chain Lubricants (Polls)
Postby BoardRider » Mon Apr 30, 2012 4:50 am
I guess though I haven't tried any others or had the need to change.
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Re: Type of Chain Lubricants (Polls)
Postby Comedian » Mon Apr 30, 2012 7:13 am
None the less it's at least as good as everything else I've got. Also, the dry lubes definitely run cleaner I've noticed. That's an advantage in dry dusty weather.
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Postby greyhoundtom » Mon Apr 30, 2012 8:24 am
Yes the chain goes black, but a quick wipe after every second ride and applying the mixture to the chain links once a month, and giving it a good wipe after application is doing a great job.
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Re: Type of Chain Lubricants (Polls)
Postby Parrott » Mon Apr 30, 2012 5:43 pm
Tried RnR gold but the driveline was very noisy using it. I figured more noise = more metal on metal contact and more wear so stopped using it.
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Re: Type of Chain Lubricants (Polls)
Postby G-Ride » Mon Apr 30, 2012 5:50 pm
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Postby wurtulla wabbit » Mon Apr 30, 2012 6:11 pm
Goes dryish and doesn't attract debris and dirt/dust like wet lubes.
Stays on for a very long time.
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Re: Type of Chain Lubricants (Polls)
Postby high_tea » Mon Apr 30, 2012 9:14 pm
I've been tossing up mixing it with metho or something to thin it out, the better to get into the rollers. I expect the metho would evaporarate, leaving oily goodness. Least that seems to be the theory that Rock n Roll Gold (what I previously used) operated on, only the lubricant was in suspension. Oh, and I'm sure the fluid was something far scarier than metho. Anyway, has anyone ever tried this sort of thing?
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Re: Type of Chain Lubricants (Polls)
Postby Thoglette » Mon Apr 30, 2012 10:48 pm
I was horrified to discover I was using a poll-compatible lube, but Squirt it is. Today.eeksll wrote: Squirt Lube - seems to last the longest, does not seem to work too well in the wet, it is dry, requires an initial degrease which a mate did , I use this on the commuter
It just happened to be the only wax-in-solvent/suspension lube in the shop last time I had the need.
Never mind, I am doing my mea cuplas and melting paraffin as I type to lube my new chain the proper way.
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"An unjustified and unethical imposition on a healthy activity."
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Re: Type of Chain Lubricants (Polls)
Postby Thoglette » Mon Apr 30, 2012 11:23 pm
Have you been using the The ShelBroCo Bicycle Chain Cleaning System (TM) properly?Oh Wheely wrote:ISo I have just given up cleaning with scrubbing brushes, solvents, compressed air and more scrubbing and brushing and solvents and relubing and wiping and another 4 or 5 days later the chain and gears are covered in black grinding paste again and then the endless weekly clean and lube and doing that month in, month out, year in and year out......
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Re: Type of Chain Lubricants (Polls)
Postby dynamictiger » Tue May 01, 2012 8:52 am
What is wrong with WD 40 as a degreaser? I thought it was quite a good choice for a weekly cleaner with a proper clean about once a month.
Although I must admit to using a bit of synthetic oil mixed with 3 in 1 as I had it hanging about. Interested to see who is using what particularly with the wet weather coming up.
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Re: Type of Chain Lubricants (Polls)
Postby mitzikatzi » Tue May 01, 2012 9:55 am
WD 40 is a Great degreaser.dynamictiger wrote:snip..
What is wrong with WD 40 as a degreaser? ...snip.
The common opinion on forums seems to be that WD 40 is not a very good chain lube. Others disagree and say it works.
After oiling your chain and letting it "soak" for a while make sure you wipe down the outside of the chain with a clean rag to remove any excess oil, it is the oil in the chain that does anything.
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Re: Type of Chain Lubricants (Polls)
Postby Mrfenejeans » Tue May 01, 2012 10:19 am
G-Ride wrote:Surprised no-one has mentioned Morgan Blue products - a current fave.
G.
Have just got some Morgan Blue - Race Lube, after using Rock n Roll Gold for the past 9months. Have to say other than being a totally different type of lube it definitely seems to make everything run a lot quieter and not sure if its the lube but shifting seems to be smoother as well, this is based on a single 40km ride yesterday though so time will tell for me.
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