toolonglegs wrote:How can you have a 6 pack some days of the week at 23% body fat?.
You obviously aren't a competitive cyclist so you must be doing gym work or something else sport wise for training to be putting on muscle?.
Yes, you are correct. Cycling is part of my overall fitness program not my main fitness tool. My main fitness tool is swimming in a competitive sense. Although I have only recently re-entered training so only doing between 800m and 3500m depending on the day and energy levels.
vander wrote:You cant be 23% and have abs. It is well outside the normal range.
About 10-12% is when you stat to see abs, so maybe get it tested again.
It does not surprise me I am outside normal range. I was born in NZ and there babies are visited regularly by a nurse it is called Plunket Nurse. Somewhere I have my Plunket book where they record weight, length and so on from birth. It is a very amusing read. The averages are plotted on the graph and my results are either just on the chart or if not start on the chart and are more or less vertical in their plot.
wombatk wrote:For that, you need to work out what is making your body switch from fat-stripping to muscle building every alternate few weeks. Do you slack-off your exercise for those, and them ramp it up for a few weeks ? Or is the food-intake changing, or is it both ? Did it do that for all those years it took you to get from a 3 kg bub to your present 115 kg plus state, and if it didn't, what changed ?
I weighed more than 3 kgs at birth. My birth weight was near enough 6 kilograms. Maybe my BMI was too high then too?
I never used to weigh myself anywhere near as much as I do now so I would not have any clue how my weight gained over the years, other than as mentioned above. And in addition I have weighed more than the BMI weight since about age 8 from what I can recall.
As for my shifting weight you are probably correct some of my exercise regime is dictated by work and family commitments other than when preparing for a race I am not too worried if I have to change my pattern this week and next.
vander wrote:Another thing to note if you are tested with calipers there is a bit of error with them it very much depends on the skill of the tester.
No I tested with an electronic scale thing, same as my nutrionist used and this gives this reading. Calipers give a slightly lower reading than the scales.
wombatk wrote:If you want to go down such a path, most accredited dietitians are experts at skin-fold tests, as are a other allied health specialists such as exercise scientists and sports physio's. And they cost rather less than consultations with doctors, and generally have much more time to spend with you and explain the messages fully.
Thanks for the suggestion. I have been under a nutrionist last year and this is the result of the weight I lost under their system. I have been on my own sense about november and am getting to the point where I may go .
I sort of surmise my body fat percentage may be higher as I use swimming as my main sport and suspect I would need a slightly higher body fat due to this.
ColinOldNCranky wrote:If you have a swimming pool try floating for a minute. I had great difficulty in passing that bit of my swimming silver medal when I was young and a rippling gymnast. I am tempted now to try it again, confident that I would still find it difficult. Most of my friends did not have the same difficulty and regretably they would have even less difficulty now.
Interesting thought this. I will comment I actually have issues with backstroke as I seem to have trouble staying afloat on a pool.
ColinOldNCranky wrote:The cry of "big boned" used to be used far too often as an escape route. Still is but I think less so
Sorry Colin but I suspect I really am big boned as it was originally intended to be meant and used. I am very very close to turning side on to get through a normal doorway as my shoulders touch both sides.
However bringing back to topic regardless of appearance of abs, sports used to achieve and maintain fitness the BMI in my specific case is clearly flawed and this was the point of my original post.
Some folks become zealots in respect of BMI and frankly I find it amazing. As I originally said the assumption is that for a specific height a human will weigh a specific amount. The problem I see with this model is that it is like saying a pool of 6 metres length will always contain 10,000 litres. If I told you this you would tell me I am being silly and making assumptions I cannot and do not know.
This brings about an observation and concern.
I have noticed the younger generation coming through who are around my height are at most half my width. I do not believe they were all genetically disposed to be this body type, although perhaps many of them are. I wonder whether when we were at school we were taught about mesomorph, endomorph and so on body types has this disappeared and been replaced by BMI making any lad my size feel ostracised leading to a situation where they are not being allowed to develop?