Ortlieb Panniers availability
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Ortlieb Panniers availability
Postby landscapecadmonkey » Sat May 19, 2012 7:34 pm
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Re: Ortlieb Panniers availability
Postby RonK » Sat May 19, 2012 8:06 pm
Yes, apparently Ortlieb has banned Wiggle from selling into Australia.landscapecadmonkey wrote:Just checking, but are ortliebs now on the banned import (from wiggle and the like) list ? I see they are on special with Cell, and at not a bad price so may end up there
Also try The Touring Store - Wayne has a reputation for providing excellent service.
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Re: Ortlieb Panniers availability
Postby trailgumby » Sat May 19, 2012 8:09 pm
When I set my cart to show Australian dollars and ship to UK, it says 10+ available at close to the usual price of $165 for most colour combnations of the Back Roller Classic. Change to ship to Oz, and it says "product discontinued, no longer available"
I would encourage you to NOT buy Ortlieb, but get something else.
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Re: Ortlieb Panniers availability
Postby il padrone » Sat May 19, 2012 9:13 pm
+1 for the service and great products at The Touring Store.
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Re: Ortlieb Panniers availability
Postby landscapecadmonkey » Sat May 19, 2012 10:13 pm
setting up the tourer for the Syd-Bris tour im overdue for from the start of the year.
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Re: Ortlieb Panniers availability
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Re: Ortlieb Panniers availability
Postby il padrone » Sun May 20, 2012 12:52 am
The best on-line shop around for touring gear (and a real bricks & mortar shop) is StJohn Street Cycles IMHO. Just have a look at the huge range of gear they have, and the wonderful range of small bits & pieces for repair/replacement work.landscapecadmonkey wrote:great stuff guys.. ive always either wiggled or CRCed, so i need to branch out a little.
setting up the tourer for the Syd-Bris tour im overdue for from the start of the year.
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Re: Ortlieb Panniers availability
Postby GregLR » Sun May 20, 2012 11:33 am
Having used SJS since 1998 I have a lot of sympathy with this comment but I have a qualification re the "bricks & mortar" aspect. See the last three paragraphs & the photos below them on our blog post during a British 'end to end' last year:il padrone wrote:The best on-line shop around for touring gear (and a real bricks & mortar shop) is StJohn Street Cycles
http://www.gandte2e.blogspot.com.au/201 ... y-way.html
In essence, SJS are so focussed on the on-line business they don't open the shop on weekends and, from peeking through the front window, they don't appear to have much stock on the floor of the shop.
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Re: Ortlieb Panniers availability
Postby polishbiker » Sun May 20, 2012 11:38 am
Support - not so good, in short, emailed them about a faulty item and asked what can be done, someone emailed back saying no probs, they would send the replacement, 1 month nothing happened, emailed the person again, no response, left feedback on ortlieb website referring to my previous request, noone ever got back to me so i just left it.
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Ortlieb Panniers availability
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Re: Ortlieb Panniers availability
Postby J Quinton » Sun May 20, 2012 2:47 pm
As an aside: I wouldn't mind getting some extra lower tabs that hook over your pannier rack. Anyone know where to get Ortlieb accessories online in AUS? Ortlieb appear thin on the ground in Perth. Thanks
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Re: Ortlieb Panniers availability
Postby Meditator » Sun May 20, 2012 2:54 pm
However, i think this problem can be reduced if you add on some clip thickeners though i don't know what that thing is really called.
I've got ortliebs myself and i am fairly happy with them. they are big so you can put a ton of stuff in them. I have also enjoyed their waterproofness when pushing through creeks. But if there are others which are waterproof you might want to consider them.
I used Deuter for a few trips and found them also to be very good though they are not waterproof but have raincoats and cost about as much as ortliebs. I liked they way they fitted so snug on the rack.
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Re: Ortlieb Panniers availability
Postby Baalzamon » Sun May 20, 2012 3:02 pm
Cavebear2 has experienced this on the front. He was stopping every 2km to put them back on. I didn't have a problem.Meditator wrote:Not everyone is a fan of ortleib. They have a reputation for jumping off the racks. You might want to check out the thread about them on thorntree.lonelyplanet. see the bike branch. the thread is near the top of the page.
However, i think this problem can be reduced if you add on some clip thickeners though i don't know what that thing is really called.
The difference.
The oval loop Perry had his in a different spot to me. I made sure when setting up the panniers that they wouldn't jump off. I gave them quite a fairly solid shake and rattle and they stayed firm as my tour prooved as well.
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Re: Ortlieb Panniers availability
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Re: Ortlieb Panniers availability
Postby il padrone » Sun May 20, 2012 6:11 pm
The only times mine have jumped off the rack have been:Meditator wrote:Not everyone is a fan of ortleib. They have a reputation for jumping off the racks.
1. I had not checked that the clips were fully closed and some obstructon was holding one open, or they had been located on the rack bar with the clip closed (thus not hooked on but they can sit there for a while.... until the first bump). User-error. On one occasion this was very disturbing for me as a pannier with laptop and important documents bounced off 8kms back , but thanks to a helpful fellow cyclist, all was good in the end. I know to check the hooks are closed now.
2. The front panniers have slipped back and off the Tara or Duo racks when the sizing clip had fallen out. The hooks without any sizing clips will fit over the rack end stop - only ever happens when climbing steep, bumpy roads. I do need to get new rack hook assemblies as mine have distorted due to heavy loads over time and one of the clips does not stay in place.
Note: at least all of Ortlieb's small items of mounting hardware can be obtained for replacement/modification. Not the case with some other brands.
I would never rely on Deuter rain covers. Friends of mine have found that all they do is collect the water to leave your pannier sitting in a puddle and all your valuable contents wet I found the same experience with my old Vaude handlebar bag. They're OK bags for the budget-minded, if you only tour in dry weather or as a commuter/shopping bag.
Carradice, Vaude and Tioga make similar waterproof drybag-style panniers. The Tioga ones are OK, with much more rudimentary mounting fittings. I haven't closely examined the Vaude or Carradice versions but I'm sure their quality would be very high.
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Re: Ortlieb Panniers availability
Postby il padrone » Sun May 20, 2012 8:31 pm
The clips in the middle of this diagram, called 'inserts for QL system top hooks'. You choose a size to match your rack's bar diameter and fit them into the rack upper hooks. They have a notch on them to hold them in place, but as I said, one of my front hooks has spread out so the notch does not hold - need to get a new top hook set.Meditator wrote:However, i think this problem can be reduced if you add on some clip thickeners though i don't know what that thing is really called.
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Re: Ortlieb Panniers availability
Postby Mike Ayling » Mon May 21, 2012 4:24 pm
AFAICR Wiggle had an IPO a little while ago and as a listed entity they may now have a few corporate governance issues when asked to respond to a request by the Oz cycling sales industry.
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Re: Ortlieb Panniers availability
Postby WestcoastPete » Mon May 21, 2012 4:42 pm
Although my front rollers fit quite well on my Tara, I've wrapped some insulation tape next to where the panniers clip on as a barrier to stop them sliding back. Some hose and a hose clamp would probably do a better and more permanent job I reckon. This is with the sizing clips fitted and is to stop the panniers sliding along the rack only.il padrone wrote: 2. The front panniers have slipped back and off the Tara or Duo racks when the sizing clip had fallen out. The hooks without any sizing clips will fit over the rack end stop - only ever happens when climbing steep, bumpy roads.
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Re: Ortlieb Panniers availability
Postby Aushiker » Tue May 22, 2012 2:33 pm
On the subject of the Tubus Tara Lowrider and Ortlieb panniers, my Sport-Plus panniers fit nice and tight now that the rack is fitted correctly ... no issues so far.
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Re: Ortlieb Panniers availability
Postby il padrone » Tue May 22, 2012 6:45 pm
"An unjustified and unethical imposition on a healthy activity."
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Re: Ortlieb Panniers availability
Postby Tim » Tue May 22, 2012 7:28 pm
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Re: Ortlieb Panniers availability
Postby il padrone » Tue May 22, 2012 7:47 pm
I've mounted all the family's front panniers this way ever since and they say put very well over all sorts of rough roads.
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Re: Ortlieb Panniers availability
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