why more punctures on wet roads?
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why more punctures on wet roads?
Postby PawPaw » Sun Jun 03, 2012 7:10 am
- rain washes glass and sharp stones to the shoulder.
- more sharp stones carried onto road with mud.
- tires are softer and more prone to glass penetration.
the first two sound plausible, but not so much the third.
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Re: why more punctures on wet roads?
Postby hosko » Sun Jun 03, 2012 7:14 am
Maybe...
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why more punctures on wet roads?
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Re: why more punctures on wet roads?
Postby Comedian » Sun Jun 03, 2012 7:59 am
Yep...I'm plus one on that!kb wrote:My guess is surface tension of the water on the tire lets small objects adhere for longer.
I also think that the water acts as a lubricant for the glass to cut it's way through.
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Re: why more punctures on wet roads?
Postby il padrone » Sun Jun 03, 2012 8:44 am
"An unjustified and unethical imposition on a healthy activity."
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Re: why more punctures on wet roads?
Postby mitzikatzi » Sun Jun 03, 2012 10:38 am
+1Comedian wrote:..snip..
I also think that the water acts as a lubricant for the glass to cut it's way through.
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Re: why more punctures on wet roads?
Postby PawPaw » Sun Jun 03, 2012 2:28 pm
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Re: why more punctures on wet roads?
Postby jules21 » Sun Jun 03, 2012 4:43 pm
+ 2 that's my guessmitzikatzi wrote:+1Comedian wrote:..snip..
I also think that the water acts as a lubricant for the glass to cut it's way through.
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why more punctures on wet roads?
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why more punctures on wet roads?
Postby Kenzo » Sun Jun 03, 2012 5:34 pm
this comedian tells the truth...Comedian wrote:Yep...I'm plus one on that!kb wrote:My guess is surface tension of the water on the tire lets small objects adhere for longer.
I also think that the water acts as a lubricant for the glass to cut it's way through.
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Re: why more punctures on wet roads?
Postby Mulger bill » Sun Jun 03, 2012 10:34 pm
Not an issue with my Gators in the wet. The sideways sliding action in the turns scrapes the carp offkb wrote:My guess is surface tension of the water on the tire lets small objects adhere for longer.
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Re: why more punctures on wet roads?
Postby DavidL » Wed Jun 06, 2012 10:10 pm
That is what would have allows a chip of quartz to slice through my tire yesterday where as in the dry......jules21 wrote:+ 2 that's my guessmitzikatzi wrote:+1Comedian wrote:..snip..
I also think that the water acts as a lubricant for the glass to cut it's way through.
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why more punctures on wet roads?
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Re: why more punctures on wet roads?
Postby trailgumby » Thu Jun 07, 2012 10:57 am
Yep, them goldfish are pesky critters. Although you'd think they'd make a nice snack. Maybe the 'gators are fussy about thin sharp bones.Mulger bill wrote:Not an issue with my Gators in the wet. The sideways sliding action in the turns scrapes the carp offkb wrote:My guess is surface tension of the water on the tire lets small objects adhere for longer.
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Re: why more punctures on wet roads?
Postby master6 » Thu Jun 07, 2012 3:41 pm
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Re: why more punctures on wet roads?
Postby wombatK » Thu Jun 07, 2012 10:07 pm
+1. Another example: watch your windscreen wipers bump and screech if you turn them on with a dry windscreen. Or compare dragging a squeegee across a dry window v's wet window. That's why wet roads are the puncture fairies' playground.Yagan wrote:Water acts as a cutting lubricant. When cutting any rubber it can be hard dry. Add water and knife of scissors go straight through. When cutting conveyor belt I used to use spray and wipe. The moisture makes a massive difference. Where dry rubber will roll over a stone or glass. If your tyres are wet the glass will go straight through. Try it with a old tube and scissors and see for yourself.
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Re: why more punctures on wet roads?
Postby greyhoundtom » Sat Jun 09, 2012 6:41 am
Gee you guys have certainly made me feel better about being a wimp for not riding during wet and cold Melbourne winter days.
At least now I can stop using the "my CF frame will melt in the rain" or “my CF frame might crack when it is really cold” excuse.
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Re: why more punctures on wet roads?
Postby master6 » Sat Jun 09, 2012 11:17 am
You might be the worlds best tyre changer ght; please dont be offended by my suggestion.greyhoundtom wrote:Well there you go.............another good reason for not riding in the rain or on wet roads.
Gee you guys have certainly made me feel better about being a wimp for not riding during wet and cold Melbourne winter days.
At least now I can stop using the "my CF frame will melt in the rain" or “my CF frame might crack when it is really cold” excuse.
I have seen lots of people change tubes on the roadside, and I cringe in 90% of cases. The vast majority of people are hopeless. Last week was a typical case. My mate punctured, and I bit my tongue while he changed tubes. Five km down the road "i've got another flat" he moaned. I was not surprised.
Time to bring out one of my spare tubes for him. This time I gave my tongue an easy run, and insisted on doing the change myself. Some people might call me a smartarse; honestly, I am more comfortable being modest, but what do you do? Stuff all your spare tubes and get the cab home?
View the bit of wet weather as an opportunity to polish your tube changing game
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Re: why more punctures on wet roads?
Postby wombatK » Sun Jun 10, 2012 6:40 pm
Just another case of the "give them fish" v's "teach them to fish" argument ? Sure, the latter is lots more difficult, butmaster6 wrote:I am more comfortable being modest, but what do you do? Stuff all your spare tubes and get the cab home?
in the long run, it's more effective. Is it worth thinking of the next wet weather puncture as an opportunity to
work on some teaching skills ? And carry some good quality glueless patches to fix any pinch-flat problems etc.,.
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Re: why more punctures on wet roads?
Postby master6 » Sun Jun 10, 2012 6:56 pm
Are you the politician with "wayward" Cabcharge Vouchers"?wombatK wrote:Just another case of the "give them fish" v's "teach them to fish" argument ? Sure, the latter is lots more difficult, butmaster6 wrote:I am more comfortable being modest, but what do you do? Stuff all your spare tubes and get the cab home?
in the long run, it's more effective. Is it worth thinking of the next wet weather puncture as an opportunity to
work on some teaching skills ? And carry some good quality glueless patches to fix any pinch-flat problems etc.,.
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Re: why more punctures on wet roads?
Postby wombatK » Sun Jun 10, 2012 7:08 pm
Wish I were - then I'd never have to walk home if my teaching effortsmaster6 wrote: Are you the politician with "wayward" Cabcharge Vouchers"?
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Re: why more punctures on wet roads?
Postby tomdex » Fri Sep 14, 2012 4:03 pm
Perhaps you could explain what 90% of people do wrong (or could do better!) when changing a tube on the roadside?master6 wrote:You might be the worlds best tyre changer ght; please dont be offended by my suggestion.greyhoundtom wrote:Well there you go.............another good reason for not riding in the rain or on wet roads.
Gee you guys have certainly made me feel better about being a wimp for not riding during wet and cold Melbourne winter days.
At least now I can stop using the "my CF frame will melt in the rain" or “my CF frame might crack when it is really cold” excuse.
I have seen lots of people change tubes on the roadside, and I cringe in 90% of cases. The vast majority of people are hopeless. Last week was a typical case. My mate punctured, and I bit my tongue while he changed tubes. Five km down the road "i've got another flat" he moaned. I was not surprised.
Time to bring out one of my spare tubes for him. This time I gave my tongue an easy run, and insisted on doing the change myself. Some people might call me a smartarse; honestly, I am more comfortable being modest, but what do you do? Stuff all your spare tubes and get the cab home?
View the bit of wet weather as an opportunity to polish your tube changing game
Forgive me, but your comment proves that you are an 'arrogant smartarse' and not willing (or able) to tell your 'mate' where he could improve his skills...............
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Re: why more punctures on wet roads?
Postby master6 » Fri Sep 14, 2012 4:20 pm
tomdex wrote: you are an 'arrogant smartarse' and not willing (or able) to tell your 'mate' where he could improve his skills...............
W ait A while. I gave him a demonstration on June 10 ,2012. That was three months ago.
As they say, W ait A while.
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Re: why more punctures on wet roads?
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