Mystery frame - can anyone ID this?

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Mystery frame - can anyone ID this?

Postby dv » Tue Jun 05, 2012 11:57 pm

I just purchased this as the lugs look interesting and it feel quite light. I have no idea what it is however.
It seems to have a raised 851 (or perhaps 831) in the middle of the bottom bracket and a 50...on the bottom bracket where the stay comes out.
The bottom bracket also has a screw where oil can be added (see pictures)
I think the forks belong to it, but I am unsure if they are perhaps a little bent. If it is only slight is this something that could be repaired or were some older forks not dead straight?
Any help would be great.
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by BNA » Wed Jun 06, 2012 7:14 pm

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Re: Mystery frame - can anyone ID this?

Postby dv » Wed Jun 06, 2012 7:14 pm

Had a closer look today and the forks are definitely bent back a little. Scraped a bit more paint off but have not found more markings.
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Re: Mystery frame - can anyone ID this?

Postby bennett » Thu Jun 07, 2012 11:46 am

Speedwell?
I had something very similar and told it was a Speedwell. Had very similar lugs.
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Re: Mystery frame - can anyone ID this?

Postby dv » Thu Jun 07, 2012 10:02 pm

Thanks, I'll search for some pictures of old speedwell frames.
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Re: Mystery frame - can anyone ID this?

Postby koen » Fri Jun 08, 2012 5:49 pm

I have two just like it. One is a Healing the other a Blue Star (a local qld builder??) The Healing has a headbadge otherwise very similar. I would guess that between about 1930 and 1960 many people made bikes that looked very similar. Serial numbers might identify it but there were so many little bike builders you may never know.
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Re: Mystery frame - can anyone ID this?

Postby dv » Sat Jun 09, 2012 4:35 pm

Thanks a lot for the information. I have found some other forks and, with the horizontal drop outs, I think I will (eventually) build a fixed wheel bike out of this frame. (I hate it when fixies are made from classic old bikes - but since this is nothing special it's fair game).
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Re: Mystery frame - can anyone ID this?

Postby ghostpoet » Sun Jun 10, 2012 2:07 pm

Nice frame! Good luck with finding the floating cups that go in that style of headtube. They can be an issue to get hold of.
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Re: Mystery frame - can anyone ID this?

Postby dv » Thu Jun 14, 2012 10:43 pm

Thanks ghostpoet....I got given some crappy looking ones by the person who sold the frame to me......so I will hang on to them just in case - and recycle them as best I can!
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