Equipment and On Road Behaviour, Laws and Rules. Cycling Promotion and Advocacy
by Mulger bill » Mon Jun 11, 2012 12:51 pm
trailgumby wrote:Got me! I was about to go looking for the comments section so I cold rip this bloke a new one, and then I got to the punch line 
Not alone Gumby, the blood started to boil and then I read the number 314 and knew who it would be Should forget this plate BS anyway, too easy to fake or borrow. I suggest Mr Birdbrain recommend this path...  Of course, shaved heads and a ban on wearing helmets would be needed to make it enforceable.
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by nitramluap » Mon Jun 11, 2012 2:10 pm
il padrone wrote:Email sent Dear Sir This photo from your website's page on bicycle riders and proposed changes to Qld road rules shows a cyclist riding in a bike lane. I think perhaps you are suggesting the cyclist has no helmet, but it is very difficult to tell as the photo is so tiny. https://sites.google.com/site/independe ... edirects=0 Regardless of the behaviour of the cyclist, this photo stands as evidence of the photographer's own unsafe and illegal driving, by using a mobile phone to take photos whilst driving. Not a good look. There is much more I could say about your proposed road safety improvements, but I don't have the time. Suffice to say that for the 1500 or so Australians that are killed on the roads every year, the most dangerous vehicle is the motor car. I am thankful your organisation is in Qld. Stay there.
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by find_bruce » Mon Jun 11, 2012 2:18 pm
Mulger bill wrote:I suggest Mr Birdbrain recommend this path...
Of course, shaved heads and a ban on wearing helmets would be needed to make it enforceable.
It seems that someone doesn't like you hotlinking to their photo of a toy Agent 47. Oh sorry they prefer the term action figure. Besides barcodes are so last year, everyone knows that the guvnmnt is moving to install RFID chips instead. Oh I wish I was joking
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by il padrone » Mon Jun 11, 2012 3:10 pm
find_bruce wrote:Besides barcodes are so last year, everyone knows that the guvnmnt is moving to install RFID chips instead. Oh I wish I was joking
Nah, that's all irrelevant seeing as how the world is going to end anyway on the 23rd Dec 2012. So the Guvmint won't get ya!! It's all good, eh?  [youtube]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fOWWIDT910I&feature=player_detailpage[/youtube]
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by Mulger bill » Mon Jun 11, 2012 7:00 pm
find_bruce wrote:It seems that someone doesn't like you hotlinking to their photo of a toy Agent 47. Oh sorry they prefer the term action figure.
Fixed that, thanks. find_bruce wrote:Besides barcodes are so last year, everyone knows that the guvnmnt is moving to install RFID chips instead. Oh I wish I was joking
If it's good enough for Fido and Tiddles, it's good enough for us. After all, it's for our own good 
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by The 2nd Womble » Tue Jun 12, 2012 1:30 pm
The 24/7 Cycling Safety Fund has thankfully denied any involvement or support of Mr Nightingale and his plans to see cyclists registered in Queensland. One possible suggestion I have for the chap is to place drop boxes full of numbers at a distance of 100m from either side of his property. Cyclist swould be required to take from and sign for a number when at the 1st box, and then drop the number back at the 2nd box and signing out again. Whilst riding in between boxes they could be required - in accordance with new GC City Council regs - to continuously shout out "23, 23, 23!" for example, while holding the number above their heads. Similar to Woolworths Deli but with a guest book and alot louder.
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by Mulger bill » Tue Jun 12, 2012 1:38 pm
Just get a bunch of GC riders to make their own up, Ox made a nice template. I suggest they all be the same "NOR 360", see if Mr Birdbrain gets it... 
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by il padrone » Tue Jun 12, 2012 8:00 pm
A great pile of cattle biscuits from Mr Nightingale Im sorry you could not see properly the photo , however it shows a ccylist at a major intersection , no helmet, no front or rear lights , at the pre dawn hours and in dark clothes. the photo was taken using a roof mounted camera approved by qld police to assist in identifying offenders on the roads. yes australia wide there are that many deaths unfortunately, of those figures in every state 25 dead motorists are caused because they were taking evasive actions to avoid hitting a cyclist who was breaking the law. I am sorry your belief is such that you have an unrealistic view on the way life is but if you can supply to me how bicycles can deliver 500kg of freight over a distance of 450 klms in 10 hours , please i am all ears. The fact is a bicycle is a recreational vehicle with no other purpose to carry an individual a short distance in a long period of time. You will find that we as professional drivers get more exercise, running, lifting heavy weights on a daily basis which would be much more than a cyclists gets in a week. We have to endure weather no cyclist would venture into, and drive roads which are frequented by fools who both drive cars and ride bicycles who are arrogant and ignorant of all other road users and the laws that make us all safe. Please express your opinions And we are a Nation Wide association and the same recomendations are being talked with all transport ministers.
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by Oxford » Tue Jun 12, 2012 8:15 pm
what a bunch of self righteous twaddle.
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by The 2nd Womble » Tue Jun 12, 2012 8:21 pm
An SCA supporter spoke with Mr Nightingale today. amongst his increasingly rediculous claims was the allegation that 4 courier drivers have been killed as a result of cyclists actions, and that SCA and I myself have personally been quoted as supporting the IDA's postion on cyclist registration. This is now turned into something as incideous as it is rediculous. It has the potential to damage both the 24/7 fund's an SCA's reputations within the cycling community that support us. On top of the fact that when called, neither the Gold Coast or Ipwsich Mayors' offices were aware of their apparent support of the IDA or Mr Nightingale. I can safely assume that nobody in QPS Traffic Branch would have to much time for an individual who makes Harold Scruby look like an incredibly sane and boring man. Mr Nightingale is on notice.
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by The 2nd Womble » Tue Jun 12, 2012 8:25 pm
It is now also known that Mr Nightingale is pushing to take the top spot at the IDA, so he is stupid enough that we will be hearing from him again.
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by Kraeg » Tue Jun 12, 2012 8:34 pm
If rego was introduced in QLD would touring cyclists bypass QLD when cycling around Australia? Or could there be a generic "outta state" plate that tourers could use as an exemption? I guess this would apply to any state/territory it was introduced in while not being a national thing (maybe if all but one state/territory gets it we can all take trips there to run red lights and other fun cool hipster stuff).
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by il padrone » Tue Jun 12, 2012 8:38 pm
Kraeg wrote:If rego was introduced in QLD would......

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by Mulger bill » Tue Jun 12, 2012 9:14 pm
il padrone wrote:A great pile of cattle biscuits from Mr Nightingale Poo Crap Excreta Self serving twaddle. Bigotry that wouldn't go astray in a white sheet
One piece of credible evidence for any of those insane ravings, just one. Go on Birdbrain I frikkin' dare you!
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by Mulger bill » Wed Jun 13, 2012 10:54 am
Way transparent agenda Birdbrain, you don't care who you pi55 off as long as the roads are clear for your badly driven white van. Let's see if my comment gets published...
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by The 2nd Womble » Wed Jun 13, 2012 12:22 pm
Mulger bill wrote:Way transparent agenda Birdbrain, you don't care who you pi55 off as long as the roads are clear for your badly driven white van. Let's see if my comment gets published...
I thought that being a mod you'd know better than to sprout off without having all the details! It may not be white! Hell, it may even be a utre that he drives! 
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by Oxford » Wed Jun 13, 2012 12:25 pm
Mulger bill wrote:Way transparent agenda Birdbrain, you don't care who you pi55 off as long as the roads are clear for your badly driven white van. Let's see if my comment gets published...
yes it did.
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by trailgumby » Wed Jun 13, 2012 1:53 pm
il padrone wrote:A great pile of cattle biscuits from Mr Nightingale Im sorry you could not see properly the photo , however it shows a ccylist at a major intersection , no helmet, no front or rear lights , at the pre dawn hours and in dark clothes. the photo was taken using a roof mounted camera approved by qld police to assist in identifying offenders on the roads....
You're being kind. It shows the interior of the van in the foreground. I think the guy either has a very tenuous grip on objective reality, or his concept of truth is erm, flexible. Forward his response on to the paper and suggest they check their sources more thoroughly next time. I'm sure Fairfax newspapers would happily expose this guy as a delusional tosser, so a blind copy to them might be worthwhile 
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by The 2nd Womble » Wed Jun 13, 2012 2:06 pm
He's obviously read the comments and posted his own which I'm sure will be published. He texted this to my phone: "Saw your comments, had a laugh, posted a warning bout your validity as a group interested in safety".
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by Mulger bill » Wed Jun 13, 2012 6:30 pm
Methinks you gottim on the run Dave  Maintain pressure Nice comment there too Hawkeye. 
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by The 2nd Womble » Wed Jun 13, 2012 8:17 pm
Wasn't hard to get the better of such an intellectually challenged Cephalopod, even for 'lil 'ol me.
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by trailgumby » Wed Jun 13, 2012 8:34 pm
Mulger bill wrote:Nice comment there too Hawkeye. 
LOL, you're welcome. My comments directed to the "journalist" (I use the term loosely), lambasting her for failing to do even basic internet checks on the guy's background via google and ASIC's names registration search have apparently not passed the censor. One guy with a lame website and a grandiose sounding self-applied title 
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by Mulger bill » Wed Jun 13, 2012 8:41 pm
trailgumby wrote:My comments directed to the "journalist" (I use the term loosely), lambasting her for failing to do even basic internet checks on the guy's background via google and ASIC's names registration search have apparently not passed the censor.
Please please please tell me you're not surprised at this? I've been published quite a bit over the years but never the bits commenting on poor journalism, regardless of the validity 
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