Crapola!!!....P.E.D's in Cycling

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Re: Crapola!!!....P.E.D's in Cycling

Postby RICHARDH » Tue Apr 24, 2012 7:45 pm

brentono wrote:
jules21 wrote:
brentono wrote:As the expression coined by Andy Warhol goes... "everybody will be world famous for 15 minutes" :lol:
:mrgreen:

until they get busted? :)


Liberty Seguros team masseur has stated under oath that he personally saw
Alberto Contador being injected with insulin

:roll: :lol:
:mrgreen:


According to a Spanish newspaper, a former masseur of the Liberty Seguros team has stated under oath that he personally saw Alberto Contador being injected with insulin, a forbidden substance, during the 2005 Tour de France. The source, who has remained anonymous, made the allegations on May 11, 2011, in front of representatives of the World Anti-Doping Agency (WADA),


I dont believe he was seeking fame, he didnt go to a news paper. He gave testimony under oath i don't believe he was seeking any attention for this. As TLL said nothing surprising.
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Re: Crapola!!!....P.E.D's in Cycling

Postby brentono » Thu Apr 26, 2012 12:01 pm

No he didn't go to the newspaper
The newspaper just headlined an old story (sales must have been down)... and it's just another
case of "unnamed person" informes, as in the German/Plasticiser farse.
If you had read the Interviu Newspaper article....
The former employee of Liberty was going to testify in Switzerland on condition of anonymity,
but managed to avoid lawyers counter, as shown in the summary of the case.
The Court may have noticed that the witness referred to the infamous Dr. Fuentes, star of the 'Operation Puerto'.
Contador "Denies the allegations of the unnamed witness that he was involved in a doping plan
or to put on insulin shots ...
The accused has already been subject to an extensive investigation in 2006,
and in August of that year he was cleared from any implication whatsoever by the Spanish courts
and by the International Cycling Union


As stated, The former employee of Liberty was going to testify in Switzerland
on condition of anonymity, but managed to avoid lawyers counter,
as shown in the summary of the CAS case.
So just a re-hash of 'Operation Puerto'
As TTL said nothing surprising... nothing to see here, folks. Time to move on.
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Re: Crapola!!!....P.E.D's in Cycling

Postby RICHARDH » Thu Apr 26, 2012 1:49 pm

So what was the Warhol expression all about
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Re: Crapola!!!....P.E.D's in Cycling

Postby MichaelB » Thu Apr 26, 2012 2:45 pm

RICHARDH wrote:So what was the Warhol expression all about


Meh, ignore is a wonderful function.

He's been done, and is doing the time. I just hope that Riis doesn't win the case about the no points for 2 years from doped riders, but we'll see.

It appears that the UCI points table still includes Valverdes points at the moment - or am I wrong ? As of 22nd Apr, he's 9th on the list with 167 points, and 12th in Teams with 205 points. In fact Piti has earned 81.5% of the teams points to date .... :|
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Re: Crapola!!!....P.E.D's in Cycling

Postby brentono » Thu Apr 26, 2012 2:51 pm

RICHARDH wrote:So what was the Warhol expression all about


Someone was digging for attention, in rehashing this one...
"Journo" at Interviu Newspaper, the half-ashed rehash at Cycling News (unsigned and no wonder),
or possibly even Jules21 (even bringing it up) :lol:

The actual, original statement, from from the "anonymous" source,
was, supposedly "....that insulin was part of the treatment for all of the riders."
There was an extensive investigation in 2006, and Contador was cleared.
Where's the new news there? :P
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Re: Crapola!!!....P.E.D's in Cycling

Postby RICHARDH » Thu Apr 26, 2012 3:46 pm

http://www.cyclingnews.com/news/contador-accused-of-doping-in-2005-by-rival-teams-masseur

Rehashing because its reopened maybe , from memory Contador wasn't cleared the case was closed due to the fact that what Fuentes was doing (selling and administering) wasn't illegal :roll: :roll:
Contador maybe needing to give his lawyer a call
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Re: Crapola!!!....P.E.D's in Cycling

Postby brentono » Thu Apr 26, 2012 4:43 pm

RICHARDH wrote:http://www.cyclingnews.com/news/contador-accused-of-doping-in-2005-by-rival-teams-masseur

Rehashing because its reopened maybe , from memory Contador wasn't cleared the case was closed due to the fact that what Fuentes was doing (selling and administering) wasn't illegal :roll: :roll:
Contador maybe needing to give his lawyer a call


That's a long stretch, to make that association... but I'm sure you'll trump up some support here, enjoy. DYOR.
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Re: Crapola!!!....P.E.D's in Cycling

Postby Chuck » Thu Apr 26, 2012 4:58 pm

It's oldish news now, but the cobra is no more....

http://www.cyclingnews.com/news/ricco-r ... 2-year-ban
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Re: Crapola!!!....P.E.D's in Cycling

Postby RICHARDH » Fri Apr 27, 2012 5:02 pm

brentono wrote:
RICHARDH wrote:http://www.cyclingnews.com/news/contador-accused-of-doping-in-2005-by-rival-teams-masseur

Rehashing because its reopened maybe , from memory Contador wasn't cleared the case was closed due to the fact that what Fuentes was doing (selling and administering) wasn't illegal :roll: :roll:
Contador maybe needing to give his lawyer a call


That's a long stretch, to make that association... but I'm sure you'll trump up some support here, enjoy. DYOR.
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What a stretch that bags filled with blood marked AC were found in the possession of a Doping Dr. that was meeting Contadors DS at the time with a suitcase of money and now a witness comes forward saying he witnessed Contador Doping ?
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Re: Crapola!!!....P.E.D's in Cycling

Postby jules21 » Mon Apr 30, 2012 10:24 am

RICHARDH wrote:What a stretch that bags filled with blood marked AC were found in the possession of a Doping Dr. that was meeting Contadors DS at the time with a suitcase of money and now a witness comes forward saying he witnessed Contador Doping ?

pfft. it was all a big misunderstanding. contador was just getting some treatment for a persistent cold from dr fuentes, how was he to know that the guy was running a major doping operation? and all those other guys on Liberty Seguros who were doped to the gills - they sure hoodwinked ol' Bertie, who had no idea of what they were upto and took no part in any of it. he just wants to ride his bike! people are spreading vicious, unfair rumours :roll:
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Crapola!!!....P.E.D's in Cycling

Postby twizzle » Mon Apr 30, 2012 9:46 pm

I was chatting the other week to a guy who trained with a pro team in europe a few years back, he had some awesome stories.

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Re: Crapola!!!....P.E.D's in Cycling

Postby JV911 » Thu Jun 14, 2012 8:38 am

Here we go again...

Lance Armstrong faces formal doping charges from US body

Armstrong faces doping charges from USADA
He could face a lifetime ban from the sport
Armstrong has lashed out at the allegations

http://www.news.com.au/world/armstrong- ... 6395033251
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Re: Crapola!!!....P.E.D's in Cycling

Postby Chuck » Thu Jun 14, 2012 9:39 am

Just when Johan thought the year couldn't get any worse....

JV911 wrote:Armstrong has lashed out at the allegations


I thought Armstrong said he was done fighting in a recent interview :?
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Re: Crapola!!!....P.E.D's in Cycling

Postby JV911 » Thu Jun 14, 2012 10:44 am

it's interesting that he's been banned from triathlon (just before Kona!) effective immediately without being found guilty of anything
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Re: Crapola!!!....P.E.D's in Cycling

Postby RICHARDH » Thu Jun 14, 2012 11:27 am

Well there was a strong possibility of this coming up soon, his out of the blue comment about not fighting any more allegations strongly hinted something was coming up. Also as has been mentioned on other forums its almost July we all know that before the Tour there has to be a doping scandal :wink:
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Re: Crapola!!!....P.E.D's in Cycling

Postby AUbicycles » Thu Jun 14, 2012 12:40 pm

The new Lance Armstrong USADA topic has a dual discussion in the General Section - here is the link
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Re: Crapola!!!....P.E.D's in Cycling

Postby RICHARDH » Thu Jul 05, 2012 8:37 pm

Surprised no one has beaten me to it but......

http://www.cyclingnews.com/news/report-hincapie-leipheimer-vande-velde-zabriskie-vaughters-give-evidence-against-armstrong

and

http://www.sbs.com.au/cyclingcentral/news/37422/armstrong-witnesses-confess-to-doping-in-exchange-for-testimony

If this turns out to be true then Lance is sunk, Landis/Hamilton he could accuse of jealousy but Hincapie is the kicker. One thing i will say is that the True Believers will continue to believe and fair enough, but I think that in the long run this is good for the sport. Sends a message to the current riders and the ones coming through that no ones to big to be brought down and if you dope and get caught that's it.
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Re: Crapola!!!....P.E.D's in Cycling

Postby AUbicycles » Thu Jul 05, 2012 10:22 pm

On the SBS TDF coverage they have interviewed Vaughters and Hincapie, both essentially deny the report.
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Re: Crapola!!!....P.E.D's in Cycling

Postby Mulger bill » Fri Jul 06, 2012 12:19 am

RICHARDH wrote:...but I think that in the long run this is good for the sport. Sends a message to the current riders and the ones coming through that no ones to big to be brought down and if you dope and get caught that's it.


If only this was true but methinks that the general media will use it as a way of tainting the sport overall. If nothing else, it'll take some heat off the footy players, not to mention the extra ammo for the road clowns "Got orfa moi road druggie, yew doan pay rego."
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Re: Crapola!!!....P.E.D's in Cycling

Postby norbs » Fri Jul 06, 2012 12:14 pm

RICHARDH wrote:Surprised no one has beaten me to it but......

http://www.cyclingnews.com/news/report-hincapie-leipheimer-vande-velde-zabriskie-vaughters-give-evidence-against-armstrong

and

http://www.sbs.com.au/cyclingcentral/news/37422/armstrong-witnesses-confess-to-doping-in-exchange-for-testimony

If this turns out to be true then Lance is sunk, Landis/Hamilton he could accuse of jealousy but Hincapie is the kicker. One thing i will say is that the True Believers will continue to believe and fair enough, but I think that in the long run this is good for the sport. Sends a message to the current riders and the ones coming through that no ones to big to be brought down and if you dope and get caught that's it.



I posted it in the Armstrong thread.

viewtopic.php?p=820046#p820046

Forgot about this one. Oops.
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Re: Crapola!!!....P.E.D's in Cycling

Postby roller » Fri Jul 06, 2012 5:40 pm

AUbicycles wrote:On the SBS TDF coverage they have interviewed Vaughters and Hincapie, both essentially deny the report.


can you point out the bit where he denies the report?

http://www.sbs.com.au/cyclingcentral/ro ... is-on-tour
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Re: Crapola!!!....P.E.D's in Cycling

Postby AUbicycles » Fri Jul 06, 2012 10:20 pm

I can"t point it out there, instead I saw it on the SBS TDF coverage and they were asked about the report from the Dutch Newspaper. You can also read the other thread in General on Armstrong USADA which also coverage this and the cyclist / ex-cyclist reactions.
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Wiggins drug denial

Postby il padrone » Wed Jul 11, 2012 11:58 am

OMGosh!!

And the media circus rolls on - must fuel its engines :roll:
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Re: Wiggins drug denial

Postby Strawburger » Wed Jul 11, 2012 12:01 pm

I love this
completely baseless smears emerged


from news.com.au. That is pretty much their entire publication!
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Re: Wiggins drug denial

Postby find_bruce » Wed Jul 11, 2012 1:41 pm

Strawburger wrote:I love this
completely baseless smears emerged


from news.com.au. That is pretty much their entire publication!

It is one of those "what I say" versus "what I mean" type comments. What they really mean is that "we wish to publish allegations against Wiggins, but we don't want to be sued for defamation"
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