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Road Racing 2012 - Peel Districts Cycling Club
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Postby wizzfizz » Fri Jun 08, 2012 1:22 pm
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Re: Road Racing 2012 - Peel Districts Cycling Club
Postby Karati » Fri Jun 08, 2012 2:20 pm
Where did you find that info? Cycling WA site?
Edit: And then he checked his email!! ha ha
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Postby nickobec » Sun Jun 10, 2012 12:54 am
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Re: Road Racing 2012 - Peel Districts Cycling Club
Postby Redbull » Wed Jun 13, 2012 12:44 pm
C'mon Nick you can't be hiding in the bunch to take the sprint in E grade. This week I expect an awesome effort from you big fella - and a break away on the hills on the back of Wandi is just what's required.
Very quiet race for us blokes in D grade. Pretty strong and large field but everyone was suffering from various types of malaises. We only averaged about 33.5kph and it came down to a big bunch sprint at the end.
Couple of interesting moments when a couple of movements went but basically the bunched chased everything down without too many problems.
Alas Redbull had no legs and had a dib on the cross breeze and got a few metres but had to sit up - nothing in the legs
Wizzfizz had a burst to breakaway in the back straight of the last lap but that didn't last long either.
This weekend will be more interesting with some short sharp hills in the mix - still no legs
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Postby nickobec » Thu Jun 14, 2012 12:36 am
The back straight of Lyon Road has a small lump, De Haer Road to the finish, has another small lump early, but nothing too difficult and then 2km downhill to the finish, hidden around a corner, good for my short sprint. Even the climb up Wandi road is short and sharp. But Bodeman Road is a pain, down, small up then down, then up again for 300m, short false flat, then up some more, quick descent followed by climbing up to Lyon Road.
So depending on who is racing and whether a couple of us behave early on, I expect the bunch to be halved by 2nd time along Bodeman Road, a select group will hit the climb on Bodeman Road the 4th and final time, one rider should attack and I will spend the next 4.8km chasing her to the finish.
Justina if your are listening, the 4th time up Bodeman Road, the base of the big climb is the perfect place to attack and get a good distance on me. The climbs on Lyon & De Haer road are too short and will not give you the separation you need and I should be able to chase back on from there. The 3rd time up Bodeman road is an option, but soloing 13km to the finish is harder than 4.8km.
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Postby Redbull » Thu Jun 14, 2012 10:30 am
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Postby nickobec » Thu Jun 14, 2012 5:33 pm
No, went riding with more experienced riders than you.Redbull wrote:dude, did you come riding with us this morning? LOL
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Postby nickobec » Sun Jun 17, 2012 12:14 am
I say maybe my 2nd last, as I have been told that PDCC has a 3 strikes policy, a win or a 2nd qualifies as a strike. So a win next week, gets me harassing Redbull and Wizzfizz in D grade. That is why I am threatening to take my singlespeed next week, a minor placing should see me stay in E grade for the North Dandalup Handicap, before Serpentine and D grade.
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Postby Redbull » Sun Jun 17, 2012 9:59 am
The rest of them should have worked a bit harder to ensure that you two didn't get too far up the road - but you were too strong for them on the day. Well done.
D grade was a really good race - wet but good LOL. At the end the main bunch was 8-9 riders pretty evenly matched and ended in a tidy bunch sprint.
Tried a couple of attacks on the hills and managed to get a gap but the legs are still not 100% (though better than last week) and couldn't go on with it. Getting there, a few less kilos and a few more hard trainings, and I'll be back LOL.
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Re: Road Racing 2012 - Peel Districts Cycling Club
Postby nickobec » Fri Jun 22, 2012 10:44 pm
No evil plan to avoid D grade, was going to take my singlespeed, so I had to race smarter. But rode DogHill on Monday on it with 20kmh gusting to 30kmh northerly, at 52x17 spun out going done the back straight and struggled to get a decent cadence on the little lump before the start finish and up the front straight, so maybe gears is the way to go.
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Re: Road Racing 2012 - Peel Districts Cycling Club
Postby nickobec » Sun Jun 24, 2012 12:25 am
I finished 2nd in E grade after accidental 28km breakaway in 31km race
race report on BNA race report thread or Doghill race report on my blog
Yes I used gears during the race, but they stopped working on the way home
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Postby wizzfizz » Tue Jun 26, 2012 1:21 pm
New bike arrived on the Tuesday, but with a rainy week and busy work schedule I was unable to get out until Saturday morning and size everything up. It's been about 7 years since I bought the Avanti, and I was just blown away by the difference from alloy to carbon, and from Tiagra to Ultegra.
Out at Dog Hill on Saturday, and I was causing some mischief at the front a couple times. Thought I could make one stick on the 3rd lap, but that's the thing about D grade: the group will always chase you down immediately rather than gambling on chasing down a tired breakaway. Nevermind, save it for the sprint then.
There's a short rise about 1500m from the finish line, and Tom made a move on the outside. I thought he was just trying to get a better position for the sprint, but apparently everyone else thought he was making a break for it - and off we go! I had a good train of riders in front of me, and I start slipping by them one by one as they tire out. 300m to go and there's only Martin in front of me. He knows I'm there, and is constantly looking for me each side. I catch and pass with 100m to go and solo to the line for the win.
So onto next weekend! North Dandalup Handicap is approx 50km for all grades. I've got the Pickering Brook series the next day so I'm undecided which race to save myself for
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Re: Road Racing 2012 - Peel Districts Cycling Club
Postby Redbull » Mon Jul 02, 2012 9:18 am
I'm still looking for my foo foo valve somewhere along Dell Park Road.
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Postby madrapper » Mon Jul 02, 2012 9:51 am
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Postby nickobec » Mon Jul 02, 2012 2:25 pm
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Postby cant_stop » Fri Jul 06, 2012 12:50 am
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Postby nickobec » Fri Jul 06, 2012 4:06 pm
Looks like I will be racing D grade, given my handicap from last week and result (plus results from previous 3 weeks of racing E grade)
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Postby wizzfizz » Fri Jul 06, 2012 4:37 pm
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Postby nickobec » Fri Jul 06, 2012 5:40 pm
Well maybe most weeks, this Saturday is different. I have not recovered from last Saturday, my thighs (usually it is my calves) have been in pain all week, even struggled with today's ride to work.wizzfizz wrote:You shouldn't have any problems keeping up with D grade Nick ...
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Postby cant_stop » Sat Jul 07, 2012 7:27 pm
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Postby nickobec » Sun Jul 08, 2012 1:31 am
That was the first crash in E grade this season. I rode all previous races and never any concerns or incidents.
My race report of D in race report thread or my blog
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Postby hanzao » Sun Jul 08, 2012 8:04 am
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Re: Road Racing 2012 - Peel Districts Cycling Club
Postby cant_stop » Sun Jul 08, 2012 12:00 pm
Between 30 and 33kmph depending on the group and course I am told. Of course it is easier to ride at higher speeds when in a group.hanzao wrote:anyone know the avg speeds are for grade e?
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Postby nickobec » Sun Jul 08, 2012 12:55 pm
That is faster than I would of expected for E Grade, It is not unusual for short sections of a race in E grade to be ridden at that speed when the pack are chasing a break or somebody is putting on the pain, but not for a whole lap.cant_stop wrote:E grade was faster than I expected, we were averaging about 35 before the crash so I'm going to have to work on increasing my ave speed!
32 +/-2 kmh depending on the circuit, the weather and who is riding.hanzao wrote:anyone know the avg speeds are for grade e?
PDCC E Grade races this year (until yesterday)
http://app.strava.com/rides/7090609 32.6 Serpentine 21st April, two riders got away, couple of the older more experienced riders kept tempo/chase, I just stayed on back until sprint.
http://app.strava.com/rides/7893316 33.4 Nambeelup 5th May, biggest group of year, a few riders kept the pace up, I was too aggressive, faded at end.
http://app.strava.com/rides/8846881 31.8 Serpentine 19th May, I dished pain 1st lap, group surged and slowed next two, did too much work last 5kms and go overrun in sprint.
http://app.strava.com/rides/10398553 30.7 Doghill 9th June, we just circulated, nobody made the pace, I launched sprint in right spot for me and won
http://app.strava.com/rides/10927387 32.0 Wandi 16th June, wet, lumpy and shortened race. I rode hard, caused pain, was in break of 2, lost by 2/100th of second.
http://app.strava.com/rides/11509837 33.0 Doghill 23th June, got off the front after 4kms, solo for about 10km, 2 man breakaway for final 16km, got done in the sprint, finished 90 seconds clear of bunch.
Seriously if you can ride for an hour with a group on the flat with 32kmh average (and it does not matter if you don't ride on front) you can race E Grade with PDCC and finish in the bunch or better.
If you don't normally group ride, but can keep an average close to 30kmh for an hour on the flat, you can race E Grade with PDCC and finish in the bunch or better.
If you have good bike handling skills, ie cornering and also confident in riding in a bunch, you do not even need that.
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