Wheels of Justice
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Wheels of Justice
Postby Eleri » Sun Jun 24, 2012 12:22 pm
Unbelievably, the police charged the cyclist. But he fought the fine ... and won!
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Re: Wheels of Justice
Postby il padrone » Sun Jun 24, 2012 12:38 pm
The cyclst was the only one injured and he's charged with riding negligently. How can you be found negligent to yourself????
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Re: Wheels of Justice
Postby Eleri » Sun Jun 24, 2012 12:59 pm
Good on him for following through with it to its logical conclusion.
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Re: Wheels of Justice
Postby sogood » Sun Jun 24, 2012 1:02 pm
RK wrote:And that is Wikipedia - I can write my own definition.
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Re: Wheels of Justice
Postby trailgumby » Sun Jun 24, 2012 3:09 pm
Video evidence FTW.
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Re: Wheels of Justice
Postby human909 » Sun Jun 24, 2012 3:30 pm
Or am I being too cynical.
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Re: Wheels of Justice
Postby KonaCommuter » Sun Jun 24, 2012 3:33 pm
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Re: Wheels of Justice
Postby il padrone » Sun Jun 24, 2012 4:16 pm
Yes, but the really disturbing thing is, what about the humble cyclist riding without a video cam ?trailgumby wrote:Awarded $3200 in costs.
Video evidence FTW.
'Hung out to dry'
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Re: Wheels of Justice
Postby marc2131 » Sun Jun 24, 2012 4:54 pm
Driver guilty? We live in hope.KonaCommuter wrote:So, I take it that now the driver is going to be fined?
The copper in charge was 23yo. However his mentor was 39, and they were both reluctant to drop the charges despite the overwhelming evidence. Me thinks limited IQ had more to do with it than limited experience.
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Helmet Camera keeps Wheels of Justice Turning
Postby wombatK » Sun Jun 24, 2012 8:47 pm
They ought to be embarassed about that - wonder what the minister for
police thinks about that ?
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Re: Wheels of Justice
Postby Sydguy » Sun Jun 24, 2012 9:28 pm
Retrain the police, retrain the driver and arm cyclists.
Parks need to be better designed so cars don't rule them, a car park at the entrance then make the lazy people get out and walk in.
Then maybe your kids are not in serious danger within the park.
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Re: Wheels of Justice
Postby AUbicycles » Sun Jun 24, 2012 10:57 pm
I did read the article and know that the video footage was submitted though don't know at which point it was received and whether it was properly reviewed.
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Re: Wheels of Justice
Postby PawPaw » Sun Jun 24, 2012 11:11 pm
You Sydney folk need to get in touch with Michael Gallacher, and straighten him out.
The NSW Police obviously have a thinly veiled hate thing with cyclists.
The way I see it, govt still panders to morons who think lycra is something narcissistic middle class twits wear.
And obese police suffering sub clinical depression from too much shift work while dealing with society's scumbags, are too willing to agree.
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Wheels of Justice
Postby find_bruce » Sun Jun 24, 2012 11:12 pm
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Re: Wheels of Justice
Postby marc2131 » Mon Jun 25, 2012 1:56 pm
The video evidence was given to the Police within 24 hours of the accident. Hand delivered by one of the Dulwich Hill Bicycle Club members themselves. Paper was supplied in court to prove this. They had the evidence all along but still did not examine it properly. Totally contradicted their star witness. They were told this too on at least 2 occasions but they still refused to drop the charges and pursued it right to the end. They now have to explain the $3,200 court cost to their station boss now ... ha ha.AUbicycles wrote:Let's not forget that it was probably word against word so my guess why it was originally decided to fine the cyclist.
I did read the article and know that the video footage was submitted though don't know at which point it was received and whether it was properly reviewed.
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Re: Wheels of Justice
Postby KonaCommuter » Mon Jun 25, 2012 4:20 pm
marc2131 wrote:The video evidence was given to the Police within 24 hours of the accident. Hand delivered by one of the Dulwich Hill Bicycle Club members themselves. Paper was supplied in court to prove this. They had the evidence all along but still did not examine it properly. Totally contradicted their star witness. They were told this too on at least 2 occasions but they still refused to drop the charges and pursued it right to the end. They now have to explain the $3,200 court cost to their station boss now ... ha ha.AUbicycles wrote:Let's not forget that it was probably word against word so my guess why it was originally decided to fine the cyclist.
I did read the article and know that the video footage was submitted though don't know at which point it was received and whether it was properly reviewed.
My money says that at least one Officer will spend the rest of his career as a Cop targeting Cyclists.
Many a moon ago I knew a cop who had a chip on his shoulder about cyclists. Every opportunity he got he’d give them a ticket. I often wonder if Officer A issues 99% of the states tickets to cyclists that’d raise a red flag?
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Re: Wheels of Justice
Postby Mulger bill » Mon Jun 25, 2012 6:28 pm
Heart bleeds. Methinks this is called "accountability" in the popular press.marc2131 wrote:The video evidence was given to the Police within 24 hours of the accident. Hand delivered by one of the Dulwich Hill Bicycle Club members themselves. Paper was supplied in court to prove this. They had the evidence all along but still did not examine it properly. Totally contradicted their star witness. They were told this too on at least 2 occasions but they still refused to drop the charges and pursued it right to the end. They now have to explain the $3,200 court cost to their station boss now ... ha ha.
Already is IMO. Let's hope this makes him think twice before he ignores hard evidence in favour of bigotry in future.KonaCommuter wrote:My money says that at least one Officer will spend the rest of his career as a Cop targeting Cyclists.
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Re: Wheels of Justice
Postby jules21 » Tue Jun 26, 2012 2:13 pm
that would appear to be the most likely explanation for this shamozzle too.KonaCommuter wrote:Many a moon ago I knew a cop who had a chip on his shoulder about cyclists. Every opportunity he got he’d give them a ticket.
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Re: Wheels of Justice
Postby The 2nd Womble » Tue Jun 26, 2012 3:19 pm
"Education, education, education.
It's been the catch cry of our State Orgs for years. However the dismissive and convenient reply is heard most often from BQLD and BNV when asked of their opinions regarding minimum safe passing distances, increased law enforcement, Strict Liability, sustainable road engineering etc.
We ourselves at SCA have been directly criticised by both BQLD and BNV for being narrow minded, misguided and counterproductive when any and all of these issues are raised, but all of these factors are indicative of Australia's backward approach to road safety. The recent scramble by Governments to build inadequate an ill concieved cycling infrastructure in a desperate bid to delay the crisis that is already unfolding on our roads, is too little, too late.
In the past the AGF has also pleaded for increased awareness on both sides of the fence through education, but where the AGF differs from our State bodies is in their genuine commitment to the implimentation of such programs, and their acknowledgement that education is a corner stone, not the whole concrete pad.
Ask yourself, when was the last time any State Org publicly voiced regret at the death or serious injury of a cyclist? Here in Queensland we lost 9 riders in 9 months which is truely shocking, and yet the Org that claims to represent Queensland's cycling community had absolutely nothing to say. Absolutely nothing.
The topic has been increasingly raised by many who are becoming aware of the silence when there should be a roar from those that represent their paying members."
New South Wales' "peak body" is as dismissive of the treatment of their members as the NSW Police. Good on CNSW for getting stuck in on this one.
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Postby The 2nd Womble » Tue Jun 26, 2012 3:20 pm
Huge fan of booted RGers who just can't help themselves
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Re: Wheels of Justice
Postby jules21 » Tue Jun 26, 2012 3:24 pm
surely it's up to the victim to decide who he wants to ask for help? is there any evidence that he asked BNSW? it's not in the linked news article at least.The 2nd Womble wrote:Has anyone else noticed that BNSW has had absolutely no involvement in this case when it's become so well know nationally this week?
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Postby The 2nd Womble » Tue Jun 26, 2012 3:29 pm
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Postby The 2nd Womble » Tue Jun 26, 2012 3:30 pm
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Re: Wheels of Justice
Postby find_bruce » Tue Jun 26, 2012 4:01 pm
I think you are being a bit harsh Dave.jules21 wrote:surely it's up to the victim to decide who he wants to ask for help? is there any evidence that he asked BNSW? it's not in the linked news article at least.The 2nd Womble wrote:Has anyone else noticed that BNSW has had absolutely no involvement in this case when it's become so well know nationally this week?
Put yourself on the saddle of Mr Rerceretnam's bike - would you really want the "assistance" that the current mob at BNSW can provide ?
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Re: Wheels of Justice
Postby sogood » Tue Jun 26, 2012 4:01 pm
RK wrote:And that is Wikipedia - I can write my own definition.
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