Hit and run by Jim's Mowing
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Re: Hit and run by Jim's Mowing
Postby exadios » Tue Jun 26, 2012 2:51 pm
How do you know that it was "hit and run"?
The trailer license plate is visible. This definitely be reported to the police.
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Re: Hit and run by Jim's Mowing
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Re: Hit and run by Jim's Mowing
Postby jcjordan » Tue Jun 26, 2012 2:56 pm
Going by the comments at the end of the video it does not sound like they stopped.exadios wrote:How do you know that it was "hit and run"?
The trailer license plate is visible. This definitely be reported to the police.
I would be surprised if the driver even knew he hit the rider. The vast majority of those towing a trailer would not have any real situational awareness of the room they take up.
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Re: Hit and run by Jim's Mowing
Postby exadios » Tue Jun 26, 2012 3:09 pm
Exactly. In order for there to be a "hit and run" (whatever it is actually called in the particular state) the party that leaves the scene has to be aware that there has been an accident. I doubt whether this driver did know.jcjordan wrote:Going by the comments at the end of the video it does not sound like they stopped.exadios wrote:How do you know that it was "hit and run"?
The trailer license plate is visible. This definitely be reported to the police.
I would be surprised if the driver even knew he hit the rider. The vast majority of those towing a trailer would not have any real situational awareness of the room they take up.
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Re: Hit and run by Jim's Mowing
Postby The 2nd Womble » Tue Jun 26, 2012 3:11 pm
It's been posted to the Safe Cycling Australia FB page in case it helps.
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Re: Hit and run by Jim's Mowing
Postby exadios » Tue Jun 26, 2012 3:17 pm
A "very real possibility" and beyond reasonable doubt are two distinct standards.The 2nd Womble wrote:He knew there was a very real possibility that this would happen as he pulled alongside the cyclist, so no excuses. He knowingly turned once he had his nose in front IMO.
It's been posted to the Safe Cycling Australia FB page in case it helps.
Posting to FB does nothing to help. Reporting to the police does. I assume that the OP was the person taking the video. He has not said whether he has reported to the police. Looking at the video it appears to me that a charge of reckless or dangerous driving could result.
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Re: Hit and run by Jim's Mowing
Postby The 2nd Womble » Tue Jun 26, 2012 3:24 pm
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Re: Hit and run by Jim's Mowing
Postby cp123 » Tue Jun 26, 2012 3:31 pm
I hope Mr Driver gets some contact from the police.
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Re: Hit and run by Jim's Mowing
Postby exadios » Tue Jun 26, 2012 3:37 pm
I think it is more important for the driver to have some contact with the court - which he will if this incident is reported to the police. This is why I think that it is imperative that a police report be made.cp123 wrote:Bloody hell that guy is lucky. Must win tattslotto and buy a camera now. And he's got better skills and reactions than I would've had. I would've gone FAAAAAAARRRRRKKKKK and the rest.
I hope Mr Driver gets some contact from the police.
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Re: Hit and run by Jim's Mowing
Postby Ross » Tue Jun 26, 2012 3:58 pm
I just saw the video on youtube and posted link here, no connection to the rider or photogarapher though I do live in Canberra and have ridden on the road where the incident happened.exadios wrote: I assume that the OP was the person taking the video. He has not said whether he has reported to the police. Looking at the video it appears to me that a charge of reckless or dangerous driving could result.
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Re: Hit and run by Jim's Mowing
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Re: Hit and run by Jim's Mowing
Postby exadios » Tue Jun 26, 2012 4:25 pm
Sorry, my mistake.Ross wrote:I just saw the video on youtube and posted link here, no connection to the rider or photogarapher though I do live in Canberra and have ridden on the road where the incident happened.exadios wrote: I assume that the OP was the person taking the video. He has not said whether he has reported to the police. Looking at the video it appears to me that a charge of reckless or dangerous driving could result.
Since you know no more that what is in the video I would be a bit careful of claiming hit and run if I were you - the video does not show that.
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Re: Hit and run by Jim's Mowing
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Re: Hit and run by Jim's Mowing
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Re: Hit and run by Jim's Mowing
Postby jules21 » Tue Jun 26, 2012 4:39 pm
agree, he'll plead SMIDSY and put on a "what? me?" display.zero wrote:Won't get a deliberate case up, nor a hit and run - but should be a slam dunk for negligent driving and fail to overtake safely, so points + 2 fines.
but he'll be spewing when the realisation hits that he was caught on camera
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Re: Hit and run by Jim's Mowing
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Re: Hit and run by Jim's Mowing
Postby JohnJoyner » Tue Jun 26, 2012 4:58 pm
What gets me is that cars do this all the time... Pass heading into a round-a-bout, etc.. to save 1 or 2 seconds & put lives in danger.
It's a total lack of care for fellow man/woman... I don't understand it.
He needs a good kick up the backside & a large fine & demerit points. Can't do his job with no licence...
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Re: Hit and run by Jim's Mowing
Postby PawPaw » Tue Jun 26, 2012 5:03 pm
Agree, it was criminally sociopathic behavour by the driver.
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Re: Hit and run by Jim's Mowing
Postby Mulger bill » Tue Jun 26, 2012 6:21 pm
Bloke is towing a trailer all day every day as part of earning a crust and he doesn't know how big it is and how it moves? Wouldn't wanna try that as a defence...
As well as a police report, Jim needs to hear about this. Think what the exposure could do to his good name.
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Re: Hit and run by Jim's Mowing
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Re: Hit and run by Jim's Mowing
Postby exadios » Tue Jun 26, 2012 7:26 pm
Exactly. He has repeated the claim. I was trying to point out that he probably should not.Oxford wrote:the video title on youtube is "Hit and run by Jim's Mowing", the OP is just repeating the title of the video.exadios wrote:...
Since you know no more that what is in the video I would be a bit careful of claiming hit and run if I were you - the video does not show that.
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Re: Hit and run by Jim's Mowing
Postby il padrone » Tue Jun 26, 2012 7:38 pm
"An unjustified and unethical imposition on a healthy activity."
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Re: Hit and run by Jim's Mowing
Postby Mulger bill » Tue Jun 26, 2012 8:09 pm
Maybe I should edit the thread title to "Alleged" or "Possible". I s'pose a "YOUTUBE:" up front wouldn't go astray either...Oxford wrote:so what should he do, post it here and call it "accidental love touch from Jim's mowing franchisor"? do all (re)posted videos have to be renamed?
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