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Re: TT Wheels

Postby open roader » Sun Jun 17, 2012 6:15 pm

Ok thanks for that.
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Re: TT Wheels

Postby mikesbytes » Sun Jun 17, 2012 6:58 pm

Chookman wrote:
open roader wrote:Cheers Chookman

I should have been more specific.

I want to train on these wheels - non competitive. I want to know how they might be suited / inappropropriate to use in a regular road bike frame on flatter terrain.
i have a Corima 3 spoke on the front for racing TT's and they are a nice wheel and strong enough train on; however i don't think there is a clincher version available and unless you have heaps of $ would you really want to train on tubulars?
I've heard good things about the Corima 3 spoke wheel

How much would one set me back ?
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Re: TT Wheels

Postby open roader » Sun Jun 17, 2012 7:15 pm

Corima Aust is offering fronts for $990 and Campag/Shim/Sram rears for $1100

I can't find any counter intuitive info as to why not for a road bike....

http://www.corimaoz.com.au/shop/home.php?cat=611
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Re: TT Wheels

Postby mikesbytes » Sun Jun 17, 2012 9:08 pm

open roader wrote:Corima Aust is offering fronts for $990 and Campag/Shim/Sram rears for $1100

I can't find any counter intuitive info as to why not for a road bike....

http://www.corimaoz.com.au/shop/home.php?cat=611
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What's the difference between 3 spoke and 4 spoke, performance wise?
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Re: TT Wheels

Postby open roader » Sun Jun 17, 2012 9:29 pm

Online chatter - if you take it at face value, says the 3 spoke is an aero improvement on the 4 spoke wheel and cuts the air quieter with a better flowing profile spoke shape (said 'tear' shape)

I want to shout myself a pair of carbon wheels to run on my C50 for flatter terrain. I'll take any aero benefits I can get when I get moving fast enough to make it work but I freely admit I just love the look of these......... and I can't afford 1/3 rd more $ for MadFiber......
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Re: TT Wheels

Postby moosterbounce » Mon Jun 18, 2012 9:52 pm

Here's a three spoke deal I just saw:

http://www.triwa.org.au/chat_site/viewt ... f54c6081a7

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Re: TT Wheels

Postby open roader » Tue Jun 19, 2012 6:07 pm

Must resist bling carbon........ must resist........ :wink:

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Re: TT Wheels

Postby rovill » Wed Jun 20, 2012 12:39 am

Hey everyone
sorry to butt in, but has anyone heard of 'shock' carbon wheels? http://www.shockcarbon.com.au/carbon-wheels.html

im looking to buy my first set of TT wheels and just wanting to get opinions.. (i have been looking at the 88mm)

they are based in Australia and look suspiciously cheap..

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Re: TT Wheels

Postby Chookman » Wed Jun 20, 2012 3:59 pm

rovill wrote:Hey everyone
sorry to butt in, but has anyone heard of 'shock' carbon wheels? http://www.shockcarbon.com.au/carbon-wheels.html

im looking to buy my first set of TT wheels and just wanting to get opinions.. (i have been looking at the 88mm)

they are based in Australia and look suspiciously cheap..

Thanks!
Nice wheels! They are Chinese made rims and I wouldn't be suspicious regarding the price. If you do a search on Aliexpress, you'll find dozens of suppliers with similar wheels for around the same $ or less.

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Re: TT Wheels

Postby mikesbytes » Fri Jun 22, 2012 9:48 am

I'm really struggling to make a wheels decision.

Zipp 1080 front for $1,1100
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Postby toolonglegs » Fri Jun 22, 2012 3:37 pm

1080 would be a handful in wind... I get a bit nervous with a 80 mm when on the extenders if trucks and that are passing. So fast wheel but not usable every day.
On the tri-spoke ... Can you use them in TTT's as I know you do some Mike.

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Re: TT Wheels

Postby mikesbytes » Fri Jun 22, 2012 8:00 pm

The 2011 NSW TTT was so windy that I was the only team member who used the clip-ons on the return leg. Definently not 1080 conditions.

Sorry TLL, I'm not understanding your tri-spoke comment
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Postby toolonglegs » Fri Jun 22, 2012 8:06 pm

Here we're not allowed to use three or four spoke wheels in team time trials. Only in solo time trials can we use them. I am not sure if that is a standard regulation worldwide or not.

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Re: TT Wheels

Postby Ross » Sun Jun 24, 2012 7:04 am

Unless you do TTs on perfectly flat courses I think the weight penalty of 1080 would make it not viable. An 808 might be a better compromise. I run a 404 on the front of my TT bike, mainly because the courses I ride usually involve hills of some sort.

AFAIK you are allowed to run 3 or 4 spoke wheels in a TT here in Australia. There is at least one guy in my club that runs a tri-spoke front wheel and he does open races as well and to my knowledge noone has ever challenged him about it.

Edit: TLL was asking about TTT, not ITT. Dunno the answer to that, very rarely does anyone from my club do TTT though the option is there at every club TT if you want to. I'm doing an ITT (optional TTT) later on today, I'll ask the Commissaire.

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Re: TT Wheels

Postby jacks1071 » Mon Jun 25, 2012 10:53 pm

toolonglegs wrote:Here we're not allowed to use three or four spoke wheels in team time trials. Only in solo time trials can we use them. I am not sure if that is a standard regulation worldwide or not.
Maybe they call a team TT a "mass-start" race?
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Re: TT Wheels

Postby mikesbytes » Thu Jun 28, 2012 9:38 pm

Ross wrote:I'm doing an ITT (optional TTT) later on today, I'll ask the Commissaire.
What did the Commissaire say?
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Re: TT Wheels

Postby Ross » Thu Jul 05, 2012 4:20 pm

If they are on the UCI list of approved wheels then you can use them.

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Re: TT Wheels

Postby mikesbytes » Thu Jul 05, 2012 6:52 pm

In other words, if your racing in Aus, as long as they are round and the front one isn't a disk, then you can use them.

At the 2011 Masters ITT championships, a number of us (including me) got pinged for the bikes being too long and they weighed them. But no one got pinged on the wheels
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Re: TT Wheels

Postby Alex Simmons/RST » Fri Jul 06, 2012 12:38 pm

mikesbytes wrote:In other words, if your racing in Aus, as long as they are round and the front one isn't a disk, then you can use them.

At the 2011 Masters ITT championships, a number of us (including me) got pinged for the bikes being too long and they weighed them. But no one got pinged on the wheels
There is no regulation in TT events that prevents use of a front disk.

I doubt the bikes were too long. The bar set up however may have extended too far forward of the BB.

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Re: TT Wheels

Postby mikesbytes » Fri Jul 06, 2012 10:17 pm

Alex Simmons/RST wrote:
mikesbytes wrote:In other words, if your racing in Aus, as long as they are round and the front one isn't a disk, then you can use them.

At the 2011 Masters ITT championships, a number of us (including me) got pinged for the bikes being too long and they weighed them. But no one got pinged on the wheels
There is no regulation in TT events that prevents use of a front disk.

I doubt the bikes were too long. The bar set up however may have extended too far forward of the BB.
However would they let you race with a front disk wheel?

Yeh, that's what I meant, the bars were too long

The problem I had was that the bars were not adjustable, so they let me race anyway
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Re: TT Wheels

Postby rosh1985 » Sun Jul 15, 2012 2:19 pm

This may come across as a silly question (but do forgive me) but regarding the depth or profile of the rim in terms of the aero fairings on wheels, but where does the actual measurement take place? is it measured from the outer most part where the rim meets the tyre to the tip of the fairing, or is it from the edge of the braking surface to the tip of the fairing?

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Re: TT Wheels

Postby Evo6point5 » Sun Jul 15, 2012 7:42 pm

Mine are from the lip. I assume others are the same?

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Re: TT Wheels

Postby Le Mong » Tue May 28, 2013 6:51 pm

I have Fastforward Tubular F9R wheels for when i start to TT and Xrd 60-85mm clinchers to train on

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Re: TT Wheels

Postby linds » Mon Dec 14, 2015 1:03 pm

Resurrection...

I am after a good but budget front TT wheel that can be ridden in windy conditions.
I thimk a depth of between 40 and 60mm is what i need?
I have an 88 mm chinese one but it dangerous in the wind and i find most races i choose to run my roadie front purely for stability and confidence.
With a budget of around 500 what are some options?

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Re: TT Wheels

Postby dalai47 » Mon Dec 14, 2015 2:09 pm

I swap out my Hed Stinger 90 for a Zipp 404 (pre firecrest) for windy TT's.

Should be able to find a front 404 within your budget.

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