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Postby bowie » Wed Apr 30, 2008 6:27 pm
Got my buckled wheel fixed today, $20 awesome..
Whilst i was there, bought two new tubes and two new awesome looking Red tyres for it
Get home.. 3/4 of the way getting the tyre on and I'm thinking to myself.. gee this is hard work, but then again i've never bought good quality tyres before $35 each so I go with it.
Got the levers heading in every direction, skin is flying of the nuckles and I finally set it down exhausted..
Looking at it i think to myself.. There is no way this is the wrong size tyre.. I mean the shop whom repaired my wheel surely would have a fair idea of what size it freekin is...
Now I'm left with 3/4 of a wheel on.. and nothing for the rear tyre as so I can ride to uni tomorrow.
Note.. 700x23c does not fit on a 27x1 & 1/4 rim (AT) myself for not checking and going at it like a bull at a gate
sigh...
Whilst i was there, bought two new tubes and two new awesome looking Red tyres for it
Get home.. 3/4 of the way getting the tyre on and I'm thinking to myself.. gee this is hard work, but then again i've never bought good quality tyres before $35 each so I go with it.
Got the levers heading in every direction, skin is flying of the nuckles and I finally set it down exhausted..
Looking at it i think to myself.. There is no way this is the wrong size tyre.. I mean the shop whom repaired my wheel surely would have a fair idea of what size it freekin is...
Now I'm left with 3/4 of a wheel on.. and nothing for the rear tyre as so I can ride to uni tomorrow.
Note.. 700x23c does not fit on a 27x1 & 1/4 rim (AT) myself for not checking and going at it like a bull at a gate
sigh...
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Postby bowie » Wed Apr 30, 2008 6:34 pm
to make maters worse..
Cant fine my tin snips..(quality tyres have wire.. who would have figured ) so the half molested wheel is still attached to the rim for me to walk back into said shop in a pile of (look how lame I am everyone) .... damit.
Cant fine my tin snips..(quality tyres have wire.. who would have figured ) so the half molested wheel is still attached to the rim for me to walk back into said shop in a pile of (look how lame I am everyone) .... damit.
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Postby mikesbytes » Wed Apr 30, 2008 7:40 pm
I had wondered what would happen if you put a 700c tyre on a 27" rim.
While it may be a tight fit to get the tyre off, it's not impossible. push the bead right in to the centre all the way around and then try to get it off. As per Bnej, a little bit of soap may help it slip off easier.
While it may be a tight fit to get the tyre off, it's not impossible. push the bead right in to the centre all the way around and then try to get it off. As per Bnej, a little bit of soap may help it slip off easier.
If the R-1 rule is broken, what happens to N+1?
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Postby rustychisel » Thu May 01, 2008 12:33 pm
yes, tried it too. I say it's near enough to a physical impossibility.
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Postby mikesbytes » Thu May 01, 2008 1:14 pm
I'm wondering if a particular model of 700c tyre may be loose enough to fit sufficiently correctly under 27" rim hooks.
If the R-1 rule is broken, what happens to N+1?
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Postby bowie » Thu May 01, 2008 3:51 pm
that not as silly as it sounds.
Well i now have the correct tyres and tubes fitted :) just about to take her outside for a cruise around the block *happy dance*
Here are some before photos tho
Here it be rest in Melbourne's CBD perving on the hotties.. Ohhh Yeeeeeah
Just home from getting its rear wheel la fixed.
This is what toddlers see before being run down
Elegant and simple.. Ahhhhhh
This is what the inside of a $35 Continental looks like.. I had to cut away at the tyre to remove it from the rim :S
Just trying it on to see if it fits..
Well i now have the correct tyres and tubes fitted :) just about to take her outside for a cruise around the block *happy dance*
Here are some before photos tho
Here it be rest in Melbourne's CBD perving on the hotties.. Ohhh Yeeeeeah
Just home from getting its rear wheel la fixed.
This is what toddlers see before being run down
Elegant and simple.. Ahhhhhh
This is what the inside of a $35 Continental looks like.. I had to cut away at the tyre to remove it from the rim :S
Just trying it on to see if it fits..
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Postby 531db » Thu May 01, 2008 5:48 pm
Not a snowflakes chance in hell.mikesbytes wrote:I'm wondering if a particular model of 700c tyre may be loose enough to fit sufficiently correctly under 27" rim hooks.
There is a 8mm difference in beadseat diameter. Multiply that by pi (3.14) and you would have to stretch the braided wire or kevlar bead of a 700C tyre by 25.12mm (near enough to an inch (25.4mm)), just to have the bead circumference as long as a 27" tyre.
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Postby bowie » Fri May 02, 2008 5:31 pm
Others warned me about your "singles". The horrible things you wish to do to an otherwise perfectly practically porter.Perfect candidate for a fixed gear, that one. Wink
The seat angle is perfect for avoiding nut injuries whilst I gather if the chain is going to slip or the gears move under speed.
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Postby Bnej » Fri May 02, 2008 6:27 pm
Needs fresh bar tape, will make it much nicer to hold. And some Mr Sheen & elbow grease on the parts that are supposed to be shiny (not the bars, rims, saddle etc, makes things slippery!).
If you haven't done it yet, also think about a new set of brake pads - if they've been on there for a while they tend to harden a bit and lose effectiveness. For ~$20 it's a good investment in safety, especially with old single pivot brakes. Check the cable outers for cracks and the inners for rust too, that's another cheap replacement that can be very important.
Looks like a good buy though, pretty good nick for a cheap 2nd hand bike!
If you haven't done it yet, also think about a new set of brake pads - if they've been on there for a while they tend to harden a bit and lose effectiveness. For ~$20 it's a good investment in safety, especially with old single pivot brakes. Check the cable outers for cracks and the inners for rust too, that's another cheap replacement that can be very important.
Looks like a good buy though, pretty good nick for a cheap 2nd hand bike!
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Postby il padrone » Fri May 02, 2008 9:45 pm
You will find that if you lower the seat height a smidgin, side it forward so you sit on the rear platform, rather than the jewel-squashing middle, and tilt the saddle to level (or even slightly nose tilted up) you will be quite comfy. Your nuts should lay well clear of the saddle, with weight taken on your sit bones. This has the added advantage of putting less weight onto your arms. If the nose is slightly tilted up you will not be sliding forwards all the time. At present you would be constantly pushing yourself back, maybe without realising it as you've done it all your riding life.bowie wrote:The seat angle is perfect for avoiding nut injuries whilst I gather if the chain is going to slip or the gears move under speed.
Maybe your handlebars are a bit too low for the seat height too? Lots of new young road riders do this.
Try it! You can always change back if it does not work for you.
Here's my road bike seat angle
Perfectly comfotable (although I need to fit a shorter stem)
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Postby il padrone » Fri May 02, 2008 9:53 pm
My brake pads have been on the bike for 27 years. Seriously!! Still working great. I might take them off and give them a going over with the rasp, this takes of any hardened surface quite well.Bnej wrote:If you haven't done it yet, also think about a new set of brake pads - if they've been on there for a while they tend to harden a bit and lose effectiveness.
And my brakes are old single pivot too.Bnej wrote:For ~$20 it's a good investment in safety, especially with old single pivot brakes.
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Postby Bnej » Fri May 02, 2008 10:01 pm
I'm sure it depends on the pad and how the bike was stored. If you can lock the brakes and you can hoist the back wheel, then you're probably okay. If there's cracks in the pads or you can't lock the back wheel then you need new ones.il padrone wrote: My brake pads have been on the bike for 27 years. Seriously!! Still working great. I might take them off and give them a going over with the rasp, this takes of any hardened surface quite well.
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