Graecross 'Constellation'
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Graecross 'Constellation'
Postby kukamunga » Wed May 07, 2008 10:20 am
Picked up a Graecross 'Constellation' touring bike last week. Haven't had time to clean it up or have a good look at it yet. At first glances, frame is Japanese and looks rather nice - deep burgundy color, 26.5 or 26.6 seatpost, Suntour rear fork dropouts, nice lugwork. Symbol on top of seatstays looks like 'four rings' or 'two rings on an oval' ( 'o8o' or 'o0o' overlapped, sort of )
Bike used to belong to an old Eastern Bicycle Touring Club member friend of 'il padrone's. I'll endeavour to clean it up and post pics soon, but any info on this frame/ model would be appreciated.
Cheers
Bike used to belong to an old Eastern Bicycle Touring Club member friend of 'il padrone's. I'll endeavour to clean it up and post pics soon, but any info on this frame/ model would be appreciated.
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Gracecross Company History?
Postby WyvernRH » Wed May 07, 2008 7:15 pm
Interesting, every Gracecross I have seen has been a boat anchor with wheels but this sounds much more high class. Can anyone enlighten me on the history of the Gracecross marque?
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Postby fattima » Mon Jun 09, 2008 3:05 pm
The one I have is fairly light as well with no bidon cage boss, it is metallic blue.kukamunga wrote:It appears I have two 'Constellations' in my collection; one is a heavyweight steel while the other feels like a lighter quality CrMo frame with no bidon cage bosses. Both are a burgundy color. Will investigate more....
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Postby kukamunga » Tue Jun 10, 2008 6:55 am
Thanks Karen. Might visit and pick up my Constellations today. Did I mention that the lighter weight one had a Suntour 'Mountech' rear derailleur with three jockey wheels on it?! I vaguely remember reading something about these derailleurs, possibly in 'The Dancing Chain'?
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Postby il padrone » Tue Jun 10, 2008 8:00 pm
Ahah! A Freewheeling test review - I have the full set of Freewheeling downstairs so can hunt out the original article for you kukamunga.
$292 for a good touring bike Those were the days.
$292 for a good touring bike Those were the days.
Mandatory helmet law?
"An unjustified and unethical imposition on a healthy activity."
"An unjustified and unethical imposition on a healthy activity."
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Postby il padrone » Tue Jun 10, 2008 9:35 pm
55 issues, from 1977 (when it began as a quarterly) until Nov-Dec 1989, when it was combined with Cycling World for a few more years.cludence wrote:How many issues were there in total with the freewheeling mags?
Recently there has been another Freewheeling magazine published, but no connection to Warren Salomon's mag.
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"An unjustified and unethical imposition on a healthy activity."
"An unjustified and unethical imposition on a healthy activity."
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Postby il padrone » Tue Jun 10, 2008 10:12 pm
Bingo!! Freewheeling number 23, Jan-Feb 1984. A good year
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"An unjustified and unethical imposition on a healthy activity."
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Postby Old Hutcho » Fri Jul 25, 2008 8:03 pm
Kukumanga.
I bought one of these when I lived in Sydney in the mid 80's. My sons and I were riding all the organised fun rides in those days and it was "my" bike. Green with a silver or gold trim.
I rode it for years, stored it, rebuilt it with some flat bars and sold it to a work mate of mine who is still using it to beat down to the beach and back every day.
Mine wasnt a lightweight by any means but it was a very very reliable good quality steel framed bike. I read now that it is classed as a tourer? Maybe thats why it rode so soft.
The closest thing I have ridden to it is my current steel Shogun Alpine GT touring bike from 1986. It has very similar riding characteristics to the Graecross. Its just a beautiful ride.
I bought one of these when I lived in Sydney in the mid 80's. My sons and I were riding all the organised fun rides in those days and it was "my" bike. Green with a silver or gold trim.
I rode it for years, stored it, rebuilt it with some flat bars and sold it to a work mate of mine who is still using it to beat down to the beach and back every day.
Mine wasnt a lightweight by any means but it was a very very reliable good quality steel framed bike. I read now that it is classed as a tourer? Maybe thats why it rode so soft.
The closest thing I have ridden to it is my current steel Shogun Alpine GT touring bike from 1986. It has very similar riding characteristics to the Graecross. Its just a beautiful ride.
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Postby kukamunga » Fri Jul 25, 2008 10:24 pm
I still haven't got around to getting the Constellations out of 'storage' yet
Funny you should mention your Shogun Alpine GT, Old Hutcho. I picked one up recently: grey, double butted chromoly, 27" wheels, 3 x 6 speed, bar-con/bar end shifters, canti brakes.... Probably from the mid-late 80's, and very nice. Does it sound similar to yours, Hutch? Unfortunately, mine is a bit large for me, and I may pass it on one day in the not too distant future (minus a few choice parts)
Funny you should mention your Shogun Alpine GT, Old Hutcho. I picked one up recently: grey, double butted chromoly, 27" wheels, 3 x 6 speed, bar-con/bar end shifters, canti brakes.... Probably from the mid-late 80's, and very nice. Does it sound similar to yours, Hutch? Unfortunately, mine is a bit large for me, and I may pass it on one day in the not too distant future (minus a few choice parts)
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Postby Old Hutcho » Sun Jul 27, 2008 7:51 pm
Kukamanga
Yes mate it does sound like yours. Mine is a peacock blue, original colour. I had never heard of them until one day I was going to Melburg for a VW show and this one bobbed up on Craiglist in Cranbourne. Funnily enough the same week on e bay there was a similar one, also in Cranbourne but that one was burgundy.
I am not entirely sure what the original equipment set up was but I believe I have the original cantilever brakes, I have banged on a set of 7 sp STI levers, (yes I know, how could I) and I have retained the original 3 x 7 crank/cog set up.
I think mine was from the mid 80's cause the dude I bought if off told me he picked it up in a pawn shop in super mickey mouse condition in 1990 for a grand! So I reckon it was a fairly good quality bike in its day. All I know is I got 6 bikes and its the one I like to ride the best. Its heavier than my road racer, better geared than my new hybrid, rides softer than everything but my new/old Miyata 414. Its the right frame with the right gear on it and I commute on it every day. I'm in love with it.
I wish I knew what frame material it is. All I know is the frame and the forks both have a sticker saying "CroMo".
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ps: If you want to send me your e mail address I can send a foto or two.
Yes mate it does sound like yours. Mine is a peacock blue, original colour. I had never heard of them until one day I was going to Melburg for a VW show and this one bobbed up on Craiglist in Cranbourne. Funnily enough the same week on e bay there was a similar one, also in Cranbourne but that one was burgundy.
I am not entirely sure what the original equipment set up was but I believe I have the original cantilever brakes, I have banged on a set of 7 sp STI levers, (yes I know, how could I) and I have retained the original 3 x 7 crank/cog set up.
I think mine was from the mid 80's cause the dude I bought if off told me he picked it up in a pawn shop in super mickey mouse condition in 1990 for a grand! So I reckon it was a fairly good quality bike in its day. All I know is I got 6 bikes and its the one I like to ride the best. Its heavier than my road racer, better geared than my new hybrid, rides softer than everything but my new/old Miyata 414. Its the right frame with the right gear on it and I commute on it every day. I'm in love with it.
I wish I knew what frame material it is. All I know is the frame and the forks both have a sticker saying "CroMo".
regards
Old Hutcho
ps: If you want to send me your e mail address I can send a foto or two.
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Postby Old Hutcho » Mon Jul 28, 2008 4:20 pm
Kukamanga
This is getting spooky. I actually almost bought a Fuji, had a real close look at a Vivente. The dude from the LBS was comparing my bike to a Surly. Although I havent actually seen a Surly the lbs guy was quite flattering in his assessment of the Shogun in comparo with it.
I dont spose youve got a Miyata 414 tucked away in your shed by chance? or a Gemini Club Sport? or a Apollo Jaguar? Na! The chances of that are pretty long. Arent they???
regards
Old Hutcho
This is getting spooky. I actually almost bought a Fuji, had a real close look at a Vivente. The dude from the LBS was comparing my bike to a Surly. Although I havent actually seen a Surly the lbs guy was quite flattering in his assessment of the Shogun in comparo with it.
I dont spose youve got a Miyata 414 tucked away in your shed by chance? or a Gemini Club Sport? or a Apollo Jaguar? Na! The chances of that are pretty long. Arent they???
regards
Old Hutcho
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Postby LuckyPierre » Mon Jul 28, 2008 5:18 pm
I don't have a GT Sport, just Tojo
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