What about the Tour of California?exadios wrote:I'm surprised that some of the teams are not sponsored by drug manufacturers.
The 2012 TdF dopers thread
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Postby maryusdemetry » Fri Jul 20, 2012 6:42 am
Voekler deserved that win. He rode those climbs so consistently strong.
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Postby vander » Sat Jul 21, 2012 10:52 am
http://www.cyclingnews.com/news/frank-s ... -confirmed
Anyone believe this rubbish he is coming up with about being poisoned. They should get a more severe punishment if they lie about it. Sick of the doping in the sport and the fact that now you cannot trust any riders.
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Postby Sharkey » Sat Jul 21, 2012 11:01 am
Omega Pharma is a pharmaceutical company.exadios wrote:I'm surprised that some of the teams are not sponsored by drug manufacturers.
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Postby find_bruce » Sat Jul 21, 2012 12:47 pm
Don't forget the high rotation ads for a "performance enhancing" drug every nightSharkey wrote:Omega Pharma is a pharmaceutical company.exadios wrote:I'm surprised that some of the teams are not sponsored by drug manufacturers.
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Postby greyhoundtom » Sat Jul 21, 2012 1:12 pm
The diuretic found in the swab is a dangerous drug to take while performing high intensity physical effort.vander wrote:Schlecks B sample positive
http://www.cyclingnews.com/news/frank-s ... -confirmed
Anyone believe this rubbish he is coming up with about being poisoned. They should get a more severe punishment if they lie about it. Sick of the doping in the sport and the fact that now you cannot trust any riders.
One of the main concerns for athletes is dehydration, as this negatively affects the body in so many ways, so why would an experienced cyclist, well aware of the fact that this drug would cause a positive swab, and increase the likelihood of a dangerous state of dehydration, take such a drug?
It only re-enforces my belief that this was administered to him without him knowing.
Poisoned? ............ Highly likely!
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Postby wombatK » Sat Jul 21, 2012 4:07 pm
Too hide another substance that, unbeknownst to his angelic self, has been put in his food or water etc.,. with the intention it would enhance his performance by such a margin that the small effect of dehydration is worth the risk.greyhoundtom wrote: One of the main concerns for athletes is dehydration, as this negatively affects the body in so many ways, so why would an experienced cyclist, well aware of the fact that this drug would cause a positive swab, and increase the likelihood of a dangerous state of dehydration, take such a drug?
What puzzles me about his "i've been knobbled" claim is why anyone would want to target him given his brother was already out of action. If you were this clever, surely you'd be knobbling one of the race leaders (or is that why Wiggo is looking so unimpressive compared to Froome ?).
Schleck's explanation is simply not credible. Professional athletes are constantly told by WADA etc.,. that they ought to be vigilant about whatever goes into their mouths or bloodstream.
Unless they want to risk a slight change they'll have to sit in the corner for a little while before they win their next TDF stage (a la Valverde). The penalties are so light that the benefits of doping far outweigh the costs.
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Postby biker jk » Sat Jul 21, 2012 5:31 pm
Yes, I suggested this as a possible explanation earlier. I think that's why Contador tested positive for Clenbuterol.AndrewBurns wrote:Another credible sounding explanation I heard was that perhaps the diuretics were there because he was blood doping and happened to use a bag of blood taken from a time where he was using them to try to shed weight.
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Postby find_bruce » Sat Jul 21, 2012 5:50 pm
Just to put a bit of sand in the oyster, consider the poor mug paying the bills for an underperforming "star" with another expensive year on his contract. It would be a cheap way to sack him.wombatK wrote:What puzzles me about his "i've been knobbled" claim is why anyone would want to target him given his brother was already out of action. If you were this clever, surely you'd be knobbling one of the race leaders (or is that why Wiggo is looking so unimpressive compared to Froome ?).
Let's face it, whilst far fetched, it is about as likely as anything Fronky has come up with
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Re: The 2012 TdF dopers thread
Postby Jean » Sat Jul 21, 2012 8:08 pm
The Schlecks have reportedly been talking to Astana about a move there next year. Maybe they only want Andy?find_bruce wrote:Just to put a bit of sand in the oyster, consider the poor mug paying the bills for an underperforming "star" with another expensive year on his contract. It would be a cheap way to sack him.wombatK wrote:What puzzles me about his "i've been knobbled" claim is why anyone would want to target him given his brother was already out of action. If you were this clever, surely you'd be knobbling one of the race leaders (or is that why Wiggo is looking so unimpressive compared to Froome ?).
Let's face it, whilst far fetched, it is about as likely as anything Fronky has come up with
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Re: The 2012 TdF dopers thread
Postby clackers » Sat Jul 21, 2012 9:43 pm
A PED user is already a risk taker.greyhoundtom wrote: why would an experienced cyclist, well aware of the fact that this drug would cause a positive swab, and increase the likelihood of a dangerous state of dehydration, take such a drug?
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Re: The 2012 TdF dopers thread
Postby exadios » Sat Jul 21, 2012 11:36 pm
Well, they cannot be a very good one. Omega Pharma is 12th in the team competition.Sharkey wrote:Omega Pharma is a pharmaceutical company.exadios wrote:I'm surprised that some of the teams are not sponsored by drug manufacturers.
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