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Postby backofthebunch » Fri Aug 03, 2012 9:43 am
I love the track cycling, everytime I see them racing I want to get involved!
anyway, anyone wanna explain the rule as to why the GB rider who stacked it (I heard his fork snapped?) in the team sprint was allowed to re-start? Had some mates use Shane Kelly's pedal slip incident as an example of when the race was not restarted, but in the team sprint it was.
Thoughts on Team Pursuit? Gunna be tight....
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Re: Olympics
Postby DavidI » Fri Aug 03, 2012 11:15 am
I believe Shane Kelly would have been entitled to a restart but he didn't take it.
Going back further, in the days before starting gates, at the '84 Games the USA team pursuit squad had a rider pull his foot at the start in the final and no restart was given as it wasn't deemed to be a mechanical malfunction - nothing broke, the strap just wasn't tight enough.
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Re: Olympics
Postby backofthebunch » Fri Aug 03, 2012 11:53 am
thanks for posting that. very clever racing, but not really the "olympic spirit"reefer wrote:Are you referring to This?
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Re: Olympics
Postby brentono » Fri Aug 03, 2012 12:29 pm
Rules are controversial (cant see why the rule, in the GB's case, was not continue with 2?)
Rules need a rethink, and the restart was a disadvantage to the opposition.
Team Sprint as a spectacle is a bit boring. IMO.
Think it might be canned, with all the future controversy it will create.
Team GB should have been relegated for such an act.
Definitely not in the "olympic spirit" and not sportsmanship. Great example G.B.
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Re: Olympics
Postby Stuey » Fri Aug 03, 2012 12:30 pm
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Re: Olympics
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Re: Olympics
Postby RonK » Fri Aug 03, 2012 2:56 pm
Actually, it is cheating.backofthebunch wrote:thanks for posting that. very clever racing, but not really the "olympic spirit"reefer wrote:Are you referring to This?
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Re: Olympics
Postby bigfriendlyvegan » Fri Aug 03, 2012 3:25 pm
I agree. Sir Chris should at least have the guts to come out and say "Here's my medal, I don't deserve it". He's the elder statesman of the sport over there and he should be acting a bit more sensibly that some 19 year old hot shot.find_bruce wrote:Funny isn't it - at least Badminton had the nerve to DQ people who tried to lose - should do the same to anyone & any team who deliberately crashes.
The rule is there to take care of situations such as starting gate or holder malfunctions, which is fair enough. This is why false starts are now penalised so harshly in other sports, because people took advantage of a reasonable rule.
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Re: Olympics
Postby foo on patrol » Fri Aug 03, 2012 3:32 pm
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Re: Olympics
Postby backofthebunch » Fri Aug 03, 2012 4:10 pm
guess that depends on how you define cheating i guess. Did he break a rule? no..RonK wrote:Actually, it is cheating.backofthebunch wrote:thanks for posting that. very clever racing, but not really the "olympic spirit"reefer wrote:Are you referring to This?
I say cheating is deliberately breaking the rules and not being caught.
this is just a dodgy loop hole that has been exploited. either way It's not right and it's a shame to see it occur.
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Re: Olympics
Postby Baldy » Fri Aug 03, 2012 11:22 pm
It is a part of other sports. Not sure I like the idea of it in "my" sport. In a game of basketball it might be used to save 2 points. In this case its all or nothing, he did it just to stay in the competition. Same ploy but with a much larger effect on the result. Well an absolute effect on the result?
It was plainly obvious at the time he was trying to crash and fall as softly as possible.
The pressure the kid was under must have been full on, something I have never experienced and never will. So personally I can forgive a brain explosion, I bet he never does it again. He'll learn to take his licks.
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Re: Olympics
Postby foo on patrol » Sat Aug 04, 2012 5:46 am
Poor form as far as I'm concerned and leaves a sour taste for my part!
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Re: Olympics
Postby maryusdemetry » Sat Aug 04, 2012 7:04 am
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Re: Olympics
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Re: Olympics
Postby sogood » Sun Aug 05, 2012 6:15 pm
Guess the question is, what was the reasoning behind those rules? If it was created for legitimate equipment failures, then a deliberate crash for poor start by the competitor would generate ethical questions. If it was not, then Chris Hoy's team is in the clear.DavidS wrote:Deliberately crashing to exploit a rule = cheating IMHO.
RK wrote:And that is Wikipedia - I can write my own definition.
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Re: Olympics
Postby London Boy » Tue Aug 07, 2012 6:01 pm
What he did was unsavoury perhaps, but within the rules. Ergo, it was not cheating. You'll have noticed how the commissaires are jumping on the least infringement, but plainly didn't consider that 'crash' an infringement.DavidS wrote:Deliberately crashing to exploit a rule = cheating IMHO.
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Postby bigfriendlyvegan » Tue Aug 07, 2012 6:14 pm
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Re: Olympics
Postby Percrime » Wed Aug 08, 2012 10:13 am
SO the next version of the rules wont give you another chance if you crash and a bit more sportsmanship goes out of the sport. Unsavoury is the least of it. I hope his future is full of much being edged into the fenceLondon Boy wrote:What he did was unsavoury perhaps, but within the rules. Ergo, it was not cheating. You'll have noticed how the commissaires are jumping on the least infringement, but plainly didn't consider that 'crash' an infringement.DavidS wrote:Deliberately crashing to exploit a rule = cheating IMHO.
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Re: Olympics
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