"I fear his 'difference' is to entrench that the notion that cyclists running red lights is common and that it is a terrible action if they do".
You don't fear that we haven't already been tarred with that brush years before you set digits to keyboard?
From non forumites, all of whom ride a bike:
" It would kill me to think some wonderful person p plater thinks its ok to side swipe my girl on her commute ride to work, just because he can justify it by watching some dinkus rider run a red in traffic".
Thank you! Holy deal, I get so mad at all the bicyclists that do whatever the well they want, and then get mad when drivers don't give them more space. Ugh!"
"Ok, something else for my bike buddies - we are NOT racing on roads that are open to all. It only takes a second to stop and be safe at red lights and stop signs, PLUS it gives non biking car drivers one less thing to criticize about cyclists!"
"In California the fine of running a red light on a bicycle is $400. On every ride I take, I see 2 0r three cyclist doing it. That's because those riders "know what they are doing" red light are only a guide line to them, cause they are that good.."
"Please stop! It's the law and it upholds our image."
" Yes, good. I stopped before an oncoming cyclist yesterday at a 4-way stop. She signaled to turn across my path before hitting the intersection, but then did not slow down and just turned right through with no regard of the fact that she just ran the stop sign and violated my right-of-way. That's okay, I knew it would happen, so I defensively waited.
"I like the fact that people cycle and enjoy it and keep themselves in shape doing it. I do not like it when they forget that while on the asphalt, their rules are the same as those of cars. I'm not even that strict of a rule-follower. But right-of-way and stopping at stop signals in traffic are safety principles."
"As a cyclist, it really irritates me when I see other cyclists breaking the law. I told my kids when they were growing up and still tell the kids in my scout troop that the motorist you tick off may not take it out on you, but they're very likely to take it out on the next cyclist they come across."
" I seriously think bike riders should be able to roll through lights like a giveway sign like buses in some cities, this would allow them to clear traffic, but until then stop at the bloody lights and get some practice track standing or clipping out and in
I lost count of the number of cyclists I saw riding through red lights in Melbourne. Please share a smart common sense approach."
" Yes they should, so many cyclists go through the red lights and get all cyclists a bad name"
"Motorists hate cyclists for many reasons- some are for their own complete ignorance of the road rules and some are for cyclists' complete disregard for the road rules. You wouldn't run a red light in a car- don't do it on your bike. It won't solve all issues but you are just as ignorant as these motorists if you don't think it contributes to the problem."
"yes do stop at the red light the few cyclists who go through red lights give a bad name to all the other law abiding cyclists."
That was 5 minutes of cutting and pasting from a small portion of the 89 shares the red poster received in just the first day on FB alone, and represents the very tip of the Ice Berg (literally thousands of comments from around the world) in terms of how fed up cyclists are with the minority ruining it for everyone else. You're trying to argue the point in the face of strong - very strong
- public opinion including within our own ranks.
BTW I haven't seen too many of your posts containing "IMO", nevertheless I don't make the assumption that you are necessarily stating fact in your posts. Please begin giving everyone else the same courtesy. It'll shorten alot of threads by a fair few pages if you think about things like a more well rounded objective cyclist.