Is it ok to chuck a sicky to ride your bike?
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Is it ok to chuck a sicky to ride your bike?
Postby thecaptn » Wed Sep 12, 2012 9:30 am
In the past I've known "people" who have rung in to work sick just because the weather is nice and they want to ride their bike. Is this ok or is bad practice?
Does it depend on the level of professionalism expected of their occupation ie, a) a heart surgeon or b) shopping trolley collector?
Has anyone on the site ever heard of "someone" who has done this?
Any feedback will be greatly appreciated, ta,
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Re: Is it ok to chuck a sicky to ride your bike?
Postby r2160 » Wed Sep 12, 2012 9:40 am
cheers
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Re: Is it ok to chuck a sicky to ride your bike?
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Re: Is it ok to chuck a sicky to ride your bike?
Postby Kenzo » Wed Sep 12, 2012 10:22 am
It's theft, it's fraud.
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Postby clydesmcdale » Wed Sep 12, 2012 11:24 am
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Re: Is it ok to chuck a sicky to ride your bike?
Postby rpmspinman » Wed Sep 12, 2012 12:10 pm
^^^ THIS.Kenzo wrote:No, it's not OK to take a sickie when you are not sick and then expect to be paid for it too.
It's theft, it's fraud.
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Re: Is it ok to chuck a sicky to ride your bike?
Postby sblack » Wed Sep 12, 2012 12:35 pm
On the flip side I'd previously worked for a company with unlimitted sick leave and would have to say the overall culture there was much more towards not abusing sick leave and on average people took less sick days than at my current employer because of it.
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Re: Is it ok to chuck a sicky to ride your bike?
Postby skull » Wed Sep 12, 2012 12:40 pm
Actually sick days tend more to be referred to as personal leave.Kenzo wrote:No, it's not OK to take a sickie when you are not sick and then expect to be paid for it too.
It's theft, it's fraud.
So taking the day off as a mental break and riding to clear your head can be considered acceptable.
Definitely not theft or fraud if you can adequately justify it.
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Re: Is it ok to chuck a sicky to ride your bike?
Postby hannos » Wed Sep 12, 2012 12:45 pm
If I take a sick day, I don't get paid (contractor) so yes, by all means take one
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Re: Is it ok to chuck a sicky to ride your bike?
Postby Mulger bill » Wed Sep 12, 2012 12:52 pm
Doesn't work for me because it would add too much carp to my colleagues day, typically a bloke who's off roster will have to forgo a day off to cover.
If I need a mental health day I give the roster bloke 24-48hrs notice and that's it. He knows no to argue it too. First and last time he refused, I did take a sickie, at very short notice.
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Re: Is it ok to chuck a sicky to ride your bike?
Postby Parker » Wed Sep 12, 2012 1:01 pm
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Re: Is it ok to chuck a sicky to ride your bike?
Postby Parker » Wed Sep 12, 2012 1:04 pm
As you could imagine I require a lot of mental health daysjimsheedy wrote:Believing in Karma would warrant a mental health day off
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Re: Is it ok to chuck a sicky to ride your bike?
Postby Toolish » Wed Sep 12, 2012 1:27 pm
2 reasons.
1. It is sick leave and it just would not feel right. I use a bit of sick leave to look after kids and even then I feel a bit guilty as it is weird being off work when feeling fine.
2. I live in a smallish town and without a doubt I would be spotted by a work mate and no matter what I thought I am pretty sure they wouldn't see it as acceptable.
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Re: Is it ok to chuck a sicky to ride your bike?
Postby Kenzo » Wed Sep 12, 2012 1:44 pm
Are you being paid for the work day? If yes, then it is just not on. Being paid for work not completed affects prices of all sorts of things. I work in a company of over 3000 staff, if 6% are sick it represents 180 people. lets say only 10% are 'sickies'... that's 18 people at a low low guesstimate of $150 a day per person (cost to the company)... or more than six hundred thousand dollars a year... which then has to be paid for by our customers... and this is using conservative numbers.skull wrote:Actually sick days tend more to be referred to as personal leave.Kenzo wrote:No, it's not OK to take a sickie when you are not sick and then expect to be paid for it too.
It's theft, it's fraud.
So taking the day off as a mental break and riding to clear your head can be considered acceptable.
Definitely not theft or fraud if you can adequately justify it.
Calling it 'Personal Leave' is a way of justifying what is slack behaviour.
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Re: Is it ok to chuck a sicky to ride your bike?
Postby shann » Wed Sep 12, 2012 1:46 pm
If you call in sick in the morning because it's a lovely day and you'd rather be riding, I think you've done the wrong thing. (This happens a lot up here, but with people wanting to go boating).
If you give advance notice that you'd like to use some personal leave - mental health day - and then spend the time riding, it's fine.
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Re: Is it ok to chuck a sicky to ride your bike?
Postby r2160 » Wed Sep 12, 2012 1:49 pm
If you work for pigs, you are going to have an entirely different attitude than if you work for a good company.
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Re: Is it ok to chuck a sicky to ride your bike?
Postby skull » Wed Sep 12, 2012 2:25 pm
Actually calling it personal leave is in line with my companies leave policy. Using the entitlement that is part of your conditions of employment are perfectly fine.Kenzo wrote:Are you being paid for the work day? If yes, then it is just not on. Being paid for work not completed affects prices of all sorts of things. I work in a company of over 3000 staff, if 6% are sick it represents 180 people. lets say only 10% are 'sickies'... that's 18 people at a low low guesstimate of $150 a day per person (cost to the company)... or more than six hundred thousand dollars a year... which then has to be paid for by our customers... and this is using conservative numbers.skull wrote:Actually sick days tend more to be referred to as personal leave.Kenzo wrote:No, it's not OK to take a sickie when you are not sick and then expect to be paid for it too.
It's theft, it's fraud.
So taking the day off as a mental break and riding to clear your head can be considered acceptable.
Definitely not theft or fraud if you can adequately justify it.
Calling it 'Personal Leave' is a way of justifying what is slack behaviour.
That is a half billion dollar company at that to. My previous company was the same, they were a global organisation with over 5000 employees in Australia alone. And my daily rate is considerably larger than your estimate.
Edit as for your fudged numbers, personal leave is already accounted for as part of an employees entitlement. So the cost to an organisation is already factored in. Hence why it is present as part of your package.
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Postby jimsheedy » Wed Sep 12, 2012 2:37 pm
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Re: Is it ok to chuck a sicky to ride your bike?
Postby r2160 » Wed Sep 12, 2012 2:54 pm
hahahaha!!!jimsheedy wrote:Ok whats worse. Taking a sickie to go cycling or chatting on an internet cycling forum while you're at work?
Good point!
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Re: Is it ok to chuck a sicky to ride your bike?
Postby rpmspinman » Wed Sep 12, 2012 3:25 pm
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Re: Is it ok to chuck a sicky to ride your bike?
Postby skull » Wed Sep 12, 2012 4:00 pm
Never really felt the urge, current job is great, previous job was ok, plus get my riding out in the morning before work.
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Re: Is it ok to chuck a sicky to ride your bike?
Postby Kenzo » Wed Sep 12, 2012 4:04 pm
Which is different to someone who is perhaps stressed.
I would hope this employee would have raised the stress issues with their manager beforehand too... it makes the working relationship much smoother.
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Re: Is it ok to chuck a sicky to ride your bike?
Postby AndyTheMan » Wed Sep 12, 2012 4:08 pm
I am a CEO and as such I am responsible for all the employees in my organisation.
Quite frankly, I am frustrated that someone would consider taking a sick day to go riding by themselves in the sunshine
It is COMPLETELY unacceptable for any of my staff to have a day off to go cycling, UNLESS they ensure that I am invited, that I am informed well in advance so that I can also chuck a sickie (and let my PA know to cancel all meetings), and that we make the most out of it my getting in at least 100kms....
Seriously, its selfish to have a sick day and go riding without inviting your boss to come along with you!
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Re: Is it ok to chuck a sicky to ride your bike?
Postby warthog1 » Wed Sep 12, 2012 4:09 pm
That works for me. It pays to treat staff with respect.r2160 wrote:I think it also depends on who you work for.
If you work for pigs, you are going to have an entirely different attitude than if you work for a good company.
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Glenn
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