Rogue cyclists clocked at 89kmh
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Rogue cyclists clocked at 89kmh
Postby The 2nd Womble » Wed Sep 12, 2012 1:28 pm
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Re: Rogue cyclists clocked at 89kmh
Postby KenGS » Wed Sep 12, 2012 1:52 pm
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Re: Rogue cyclists clocked at 89kmh
Postby ldrcycles » Wed Sep 12, 2012 1:56 pm
One of the comments on the article states that demerit points cannot be applied to a drivers licence for offences committed on a bicycle. Is that right? I was pretty sure it had been confirmed on here (with links to relevant sections) that demerit points could apply.
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Re: Rogue cyclists clocked at 89kmh
Postby skull » Wed Sep 12, 2012 2:38 pm
Have touched 100 going down the huon hwy but that us a 100 zone
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Re: Rogue cyclists clocked at 89kmh
Postby find_bruce » Wed Sep 12, 2012 2:58 pm
The question here is Queensland. Schedule 9 of the Transport Operations (Road Use Management—Driver Licensing) Regulation 2010 (Qld) includes the following definition
demerit points offence means an offence, other than an offence committed by a person while riding a bicycle, against a provision mentioned in schedule 3.
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Re: Rogue cyclists clocked at 89kmh
Postby twizzle » Wed Sep 12, 2012 3:41 pm
Gee, just the other week the police in (I think) SA had to have a major grovel (in the press no less) for booking a woman for using a mobile phone.... while pushing a pram. They have now realised that it is not a vehicle and she was not a driver.Oxford wrote:I really wish the police would familiarse themselves with the laws they are supposed to enforce before going off half cocked. whilst the act is seemingly stupid and they deserve to be fined, demerit points do not apply and the police should know this. how many fines are actually issued by police that are not valid in some way I wonder? I'd say plenty going by this article.
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Re: Rogue cyclists clocked at 89kmh
Postby Kenzo » Wed Sep 12, 2012 3:51 pm
Nice one! I'm yet to beat 86...skull wrote:Have touched 100 going down the huon hwy but that us a 100 zone
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Re: Rogue cyclists clocked at 89kmh
Postby KenGS » Wed Sep 12, 2012 4:02 pm
Missed it by that much.Kenzo wrote:Nice one! I'm yet to beat 86...skull wrote:Have touched 100 going down the huon hwy but that us a 100 zone
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Re: Rogue cyclists clocked at 89kmh
Postby Tornado » Wed Sep 12, 2012 4:07 pm
Twas WA but yes you are right.Gee, just the other week the police in (I think) SA had to have a major grovel (in the press no less) for booking a woman for using a mobile phone.... while pushing a pram. They have now realised that it is not a vehicle and she was not a driver.
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Re: Rogue cyclists clocked at 89kmh
Postby ldrcycles » Wed Sep 12, 2012 4:08 pm
You've got to be kidding .twizzle wrote: Gee, just the other week the police in (I think) SA had to have a major grovel (in the press no less) for booking a woman for using a mobile phone.... while pushing a pram. They have now realised that it is not a vehicle and she was not a driver.
95, but i had an argument with the road and came off 2nd best, take it a lot slower now .Kenzo wrote:Nice one! I'm yet to beat 86...skull wrote:Have touched 100 going down the huon hwy but that us a 100 zone
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Re: Rogue cyclists clocked at 89kmh
Postby rpmspinman » Wed Sep 12, 2012 4:13 pm
That's SA police clutching at straws right there.twizzle wrote:Gee, just the other week the police in (I think) SA had to have a major grovel (in the press no less) for booking a woman for using a mobile phone.... while pushing a pram. They have now realised that it is not a vehicle and she was not a driver.Oxford wrote:I really wish the police would familiarse themselves with the laws they are supposed to enforce before going off half cocked. whilst the act is seemingly stupid and they deserve to be fined, demerit points do not apply and the police should know this. how many fines are actually issued by police that are not valid in some way I wonder? I'd say plenty going by this article.
As for the cyclist doing that speed. He has some large balls to do that speed and not get clipped by another car.
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Re: Rogue cyclists clocked at 89kmh
Postby twizzle » Wed Sep 12, 2012 4:36 pm
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Re: Rogue cyclists clocked at 89kmh
Postby jules21 » Wed Sep 12, 2012 5:24 pm
yeah, but no one did hit them? doesn't that mean no offense was committed?Supt Vanderbyl said the actions of the two cyclists were an accident waiting to happen.
"All it takes is for a car or truck to pull out in front of them and then we are dealing with a fatality," Supt Vanderbyl said.
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Re: Rogue cyclists clocked at 89kmh
Postby bychosis » Wed Sep 12, 2012 7:00 pm
Calls for bike rego in the comments section of the article? I didn't read down too far.
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Re: Rogue cyclists clocked at 89kmh
Postby The 2nd Womble » Wed Sep 12, 2012 7:11 pm
I distinctly remember cyclists in Townsville being issued with fines including demerit points and licence suspensions for riding DUI along the Ross River and for not wearing helmets, however this was 10+ years ago. I must brush up on this me thinks.Oxford wrote:not in Qld they don't, only apply to motor vehicle offences.The 2nd Womble wrote:They do apply in Qld.<edit> didn't see find_bruce's post until I refreshed the screen.Transport Operations (Road Use Management—Driver Licensing) Regulation 1999 wrote:demerit points offence means an offence, other than an offence committed by a person while riding a bicycle, against a provision mentioned in schedule 3.
I really wish the police would familiarse themselves with the laws they are supposed to enforce before going off half cocked. whilst the act is seemingly stupid and they deserve to be fined, demerit points do not apply and the police should know this. how many fines are actually issued by police that are not valid in some way I wonder? I'd say plenty going by this article.
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Re: Rogue cyclists clocked at 89kmh
Postby ldrcycles » Wed Sep 12, 2012 7:17 pm
The offense was the cyclists breaking the speed limit.jules21 wrote:yeah, but no one did hit them? doesn't that mean no offense was committed?Supt Vanderbyl said the actions of the two cyclists were an accident waiting to happen.
"All it takes is for a car or truck to pull out in front of them and then we are dealing with a fatality," Supt Vanderbyl said.
Surprisingly no, although there are a couple blathering on about cyclists don't belong on the roads, they are a danger to everyone blah blah.bychosis wrote:
Calls for bike rego in the comments section of the article? I didn't read down too far.
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Re: Rogue cyclists clocked at 89kmh
Postby jules21 » Wed Sep 12, 2012 7:21 pm
hmm.. you're probably right. hey, wait a minuteldrcycles wrote:The offense was the cyclists breaking the speed limit.jules21 wrote:yeah, but no one did hit them? doesn't that mean no offense was committed?Supt Vanderbyl said the actions of the two cyclists were an accident waiting to happen.
"All it takes is for a car or truck to pull out in front of them and then we are dealing with a fatality," Supt Vanderbyl said.
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Re: Rogue cyclists clocked at 89kmh
Postby Mulger bill » Wed Sep 12, 2012 7:27 pm
BAM! Got it in onejules21 wrote:yeah, but no one did hit them? doesn't that mean no offense was committed?
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Re: Rogue cyclists clocked at 89kmh
Postby Xplora » Wed Sep 12, 2012 7:36 pm
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Re: Rogue cyclists clocked at 89kmh
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Re: Rogue cyclists clocked at 89kmh
Postby ColinOldnCranky » Wed Sep 12, 2012 10:19 pm
Gee Twizz, you're a bit harsh in your assessment methinks. Rather than speak in hyperbole I think that you need to familiarize yourself with the story first.twizzle wrote:Gee, just the other week the police in (I think) SA had to have a major grovel (in the press no less) for booking a woman for using a mobile phone.... while pushing a pram. They have now realised that it is not a vehicle and she was not a driver.
"They have now realised..."? Your choice of words implies that they only see the stupidity of the action at this very late stage in the story, presumably after the media alerted them to it and embarrassed them.
Yes. It was a stupid action done by a cop, and certainly worth a chuckle at his expense. But the truth of the matter is it was quickly picked up by his own supervisors before it went anywhere, the ticket was cancelled and an apology issued to the woman. She accepted it.
The only "now" is that the media only "now" have found out about it - 16 months after it happened (in Mandurah WA btw). It was certainly no major grovel, it was not necessary.
"In the press no less."? And who else but the media would they talk to when the media raised it with them?
In view of the easy manner in which they caught and rectified a laughably stupid mistake I take from this story some relief. For stupidity I award two points against the police. For fixing it in the simplest cleanest no-fuss manner possible I give them back three.
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