The Secret Racer - Tyler Hamilton's tell all book
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The Secret Racer - Tyler Hamilton's tell all book
Postby MarkG » Tue Sep 18, 2012 4:11 pm
I'm so far about 10% of the way through, but I find it hard to put down.
I'm not going to spoil it for anyone, but it's definitely worth the $34.00 I paid, and hey, it's reading, from an actual book, not on a monitor or iPhone or tablet
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Re: The Secret Racer - Tyler Hamilton's tell all book
Postby biker jk » Tue Sep 18, 2012 4:58 pm
In that case, I presume you have never contributed to Lance Armstrong's income. Give Hamilton a break. He has fessed up and broken the omerta. I wish him well.find_bruce wrote:Forgive me if I don't contribute to the income of someone who has made a career out of deceiving the public, both before and after testing positive.
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Re: The Secret Racer - Tyler Hamilton's tell all book
Postby wombatK » Tue Sep 18, 2012 5:07 pm
He's mentioned his "first jab" of "iron supplements" when he turned pro in 1994,
without really knowing what it was.
This was after he'd been on the National cycling team - which you'd think
would have included obligatory anti-doping instructions about not taking
anything if you didn't know exactly what it was.
He would be a bit more convincing if he had expressed some questions, doubts or conflict
in dealing with this possible first exposure to doping.
Maybe he'll redeem himself later - but I'm keeping an open mind.
Cheers
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Re: The Secret Racer - Tyler Hamilton's tell all book
Postby MarkG » Tue Sep 18, 2012 5:14 pm
+1biker jk wrote:In that case, I presume you have never contributed to Lance Armstrong's income. Give Hamilton a break. He has fessed up and broken the omerta. I wish him well.find_bruce wrote:Forgive me if I don't contribute to the income of someone who has made a career out of deceiving the public, both before and after testing positive.
I would assume a tell all book, accepting blame, giving his reasons why he doped, and taking responsibility for it is hardly being deceitful.
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Re: The Secret Racer - Tyler Hamilton's tell all book
Postby norbs » Tue Sep 18, 2012 8:17 pm
A review here.. http://cycling.norbtech.com/2012/09/secret-race-review/" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;
There are some spoilers.
I am still not sure what I think of Hamilton though. I applaud him for getting it out there though.
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Re: The Secret Racer - Tyler Hamilton's tell all book
Postby find_bruce » Tue Sep 18, 2012 8:27 pm
find_bruce wrote:Forgive me if I don't contribute to the income of someone who has made a career out of deceiving the public, both before and after testing positive.
biker jk wrote:In that case, I presume you have never contributed to Lance Armstrong's income. Give Hamilton a break. He has fessed up and broken the omerta. I wish him well.
My dislike of Hamilton has nothing to do with Armstrong, but to answer your question, so far as I know I have never given money to Armstrong & don't intend to start know.MarkG wrote:I would assume a tell all book, accepting blame, giving his reasons why he doped, and taking responsibility for it is hardly being deceitful.
Hamilton did not fess up - he tested positive 4 times, 2004 Olympics, twice at the 2004 Vuelta, 2009 out of competition. In 2007 he was also suspended by his team, Tinkoff Credit Systems, after being implicated in Operation Puerto.
He hung on to his 2004 Ollympic gold that he cheated to win, until 2011, denying Rogers his rightful medal for more than 7 years. His personal website, http://www.tylerhamilton.com/about.html" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false; still describes him as "an Olympic Champion" and that "I have first-hand knowledge of what it takes to perform, both mentally and physiologically." Yes that's right despite now confessing to being a cheat, he still tells his clients that he is a champion due to his hard work and training.
For those with short memories in 2004 Hamilton protested his innocence following his Vuelta tests & ran an appeal to the CAS on the basis that it was a false positive, that there was a conspiracy to hide documents that would support his case. He was reported as saying "I would never risk my health or my wife's health for the sake of racing. That just goes without saying". Oh and there is the little matter of allegedly being a chimera, although it seems Hamilton now claims that he had nothing to do with that & it was all his lawyers fault.
In 2007 he denied doing anything wrong re Puerto, and his defense was based on, ahem excuse me while I puke just a little bit, personal integrity.
I had a good laugh to discover that you can still buy "I Believe Tyler" T-Shirts. Perhaps he should include one with each copy of his book
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Re: The Secret Racer - Tyler Hamilton's tell all book
Postby Fresh » Tue Sep 18, 2012 8:49 pm
http://www.bookdepository.co.uk/Secret- ... 0593071748" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;
$18 and free shipping.
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Re: The Secret Racer - Tyler Hamilton's tell all book
Postby Alex Simmons/RST » Wed Sep 19, 2012 10:20 am
The US and UK versions are different. If ordering in, I'd have gone for a US seller. UK version is watered down due to UK's harsher libel laws.Fresh wrote:I ordered it from here
http://www.bookdepository.co.uk/Secret- ... 0593071748" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;
$18 and free shipping.
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Re: The Secret Racer - Tyler Hamilton's tell all book
Postby Fresh » Wed Sep 19, 2012 10:37 am
Thanks for the info. Cancelled my pre-order.Alex Simmons/RST wrote:The US and UK versions are different. If ordering in, I'd have gone for a US seller. UK version is watered down due to UK's harsher libel laws.Fresh wrote:I ordered it from here
http://www.bookdepository.co.uk/Secret- ... 0593071748" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;
$18 and free shipping.
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Re: The Secret Racer - Tyler Hamilton's tell all book
Postby JohnJoyner » Wed Sep 19, 2012 11:05 am
I also ordered from the above website, but it's too late for me to cancel. Is that a fact the US & UK versions of the books are different? Which one will we get in Oz? And how will I really know if it's a watered down version, without buying another copy?Fresh wrote:Thanks for the info. Cancelled my pre-order.Alex Simmons/RST wrote:The US and UK versions are different. If ordering in, I'd have gone for a US seller. UK version is watered down due to UK's harsher libel laws.Fresh wrote:I ordered it from here
http://www.bookdepository.co.uk/Secret- ... 0593071748" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;
$18 and free shipping.
Even so, I am really looking forward to reading it. Should be fascinating.
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Re: The Secret Racer - Tyler Hamilton's tell all book
Postby Fresh » Wed Sep 19, 2012 11:42 am
All I can really find on it...JohnJoyner wrote:
I also ordered from the above website, but it's too late for me to cancel. Is that a fact the US & UK versions of the books are different? Which one will we get in Oz? And how will I really know if it's a watered down version, without buying another copy?
Even so, I am really looking forward to reading it. Should be fascinating.
http://www.telegraph.co.uk/sport/others ... or-UK.html" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;
http://inrng.com/2012/09/book-review-secret-race/" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;
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Re: The Secret Racer - Tyler Hamilton's tell all book
Postby familyguy » Wed Sep 19, 2012 12:18 pm
*cough* torrent *cough*find_bruce wrote:Forgive me if I don't contribute to the income of someone who has made a career out of deceiving the public, both before and after testing positive.
Jim
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Re: The Secret Racer - Tyler Hamilton's tell all book
Postby norbs » Wed Sep 19, 2012 1:41 pm
familyguy wrote:*cough* torrent *cough*find_bruce wrote:Forgive me if I don't contribute to the income of someone who has made a career out of deceiving the public, both before and after testing positive.
Jim
Good grab if you can find it.
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Re: The Secret Racer - Tyler Hamilton's tell all book
Postby bigfriendlyvegan » Wed Sep 19, 2012 1:43 pm
*cough*audio book available *cough* kindle not yet *cough*norbs wrote:familyguy wrote:*cough* torrent *cough*find_bruce wrote:Forgive me if I don't contribute to the income of someone who has made a career out of deceiving the public, both before and after testing positive.
Jim
Good grab if you can find it.
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Re: The Secret Racer - Tyler Hamilton's tell all book
Postby find_bruce » Thu Sep 20, 2012 12:07 pm
Thanks Jim. All the publishers tell us that it costs the author money when you illegally download their material ... so I downloaded it 100 timesfamilyguy wrote:*cough* torrent *cough*find_bruce wrote:Forgive me if I don't contribute to the income of someone who has made a career out of deceiving the public, both before and after testing positive.
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Re: The Secret Racer - Tyler Hamilton's tell all book
Postby MarkG » Thu Sep 20, 2012 1:07 pm
Yeah dude, that's sposed to be awesome too - eventually I'll get it.bianchi928 wrote:MarkG, check out David MIllars "Racing through the Dark". Another great read.
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Re: The Secret Racer - Tyler Hamilton's tell all book
Postby philip » Thu Sep 20, 2012 1:07 pm
If you want to read the book then you are saying you are interested in what he has to say. They have gone to the trouble of writing the book, so if it is something that interests you and you want to read it, pony up.
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Re: The Secret Racer - Tyler Hamilton's tell all book
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