Do you support helmet less riding while we have MHL's
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Do you support helmet less riding while we have MHL's
Postby The 2nd Womble » Wed Sep 19, 2012 9:14 pm
1) Do you think it's acceptable not to wear a helmet when you ride under the current laws?
2) Do you think it's unnacceptable not to?
3) Do you think it's still optional regardless?
Just a simple 1, 2 or 3 will do. I'm very keen to see the results.
BTW we already have an MHL thread so if it degenerates into another prospective 2 year debate the mod's will lock this. If you have an opinion please post in that thread.
If someone can create the poll proper I'd appreciate it.
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Re: Do you support helmet less riding while we have MHL's
Postby ldrcycles » Wed Sep 19, 2012 9:41 pm
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Re: Do you support helmet less riding while we have MHL's
Postby Mulger bill » Wed Sep 19, 2012 9:50 pm
Unfortunately, polls can't be created in this sub forum.
I'm not going to ask you to respect Daves attempt to get raw data rather than try to wade through multiple pages of back and forth in that other thread.
I am demanding it!
Simple 1, 2 or 3 responses only. Go loud in that other thread if you feel you must.
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Postby The 2nd Womble » Wed Sep 19, 2012 10:01 pm
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Re: Do you support helmet less riding while we have MHL's
Postby lturner » Wed Sep 19, 2012 10:05 pm
Aren't options 1 & 3 the same? If you think helmets are optional, obviously you believe that it's acceptable not to wear one.
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Postby The 2nd Womble » Wed Sep 19, 2012 10:07 pm
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Postby lturner » Wed Sep 19, 2012 10:09 pm
yep, noted and amended.The 2nd Womble wrote:1, 2 or 3...
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Postby Mulger bill » Wed Sep 19, 2012 10:12 pm
Lucky...lturner wrote:yep, noted and amended.The 2nd Womble wrote:1, 2 or 3...
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Postby RonK » Wed Sep 19, 2012 10:15 pm
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Re: Do you support helmet less riding while we have MHL's
Postby damhooligan » Wed Sep 19, 2012 10:16 pm
1. it is acceptable to not wear a helmet.The 2nd Womble wrote:I don't have a poll option but these are the questions:
1) Do you think it's acceptable not to wear a helmet when you ride under the current laws?
2) Do you think it's unnacceptable not to?
3) Do you think it's still optional regardless?
Just a simple 1, 2 or 3 will do. I'm very keen to see the results.
BTW we already have an MHL thread so if it degenerates into another prospective 2 year debate the mod's will lock this. If you have an opinion please post in that thread.
If someone can create the poll proper I'd appreciate it.
p.s., could we move to this into a location where we can vote/poll ??
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Re: Do you support helmet less riding while we have MHL's
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Re: Do you support helmet less riding while we have MHL's
Postby greyhoundtom » Thu Sep 20, 2012 8:29 am
But..... because I’m on an old age pension and simply can’t afford the fine, I cannot..........
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Re: Do you support helmet less riding while we have MHL's
Postby jimsheedy » Thu Sep 20, 2012 8:59 am
I'm predicting this won't get to two pages.
edit. sorry misread the options
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Postby The 2nd Womble » Thu Sep 20, 2012 9:04 am
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Re: Do you support helmet less riding while we have MHL's
Postby ILMB » Thu Sep 20, 2012 10:29 am
I'm a 2 as I try to be law-abiding, but would be a 3 if I could.The 2nd Womble wrote: 1) Do you think it's acceptable not to wear a helmet when you ride under the current laws?
2) Do you think it's unnacceptable not to?
3) Do you think it's still optional regardless?
However I think there would be real benefit in adding further questions:
2.1: Do you support MHLs? Yes/No
2.2: If the MHL was repealed, and as an adult:
2.2.1: Would you still always wear a helmet
2.2.2: Would you sometimes not wear a helmet
2.2.3: Would you throw the helmet away
2.3: If the MHL was repealed, and as a parent:
2.3.1: Would your children still always wear a helmet
2.3.2: Would your children sometimes not wear a helmet
2.3.3: Would you throw the kids' helmets away
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Re: Do you support helmet less riding while we have MHL's
Postby KenGS » Thu Sep 20, 2012 12:40 pm
Helmets! Bells! Rego!
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Re: Do you support helmet less riding while we have MHL's
Postby Mulger bill » Thu Sep 20, 2012 5:27 pm
I did a poll on this waaaay back when this subforum allowed polls. IIRC, the result was pretty much a 2.2.2.ILoveMyBike wrote:I'm a 2 as I try to be law-abiding, but would be a 3 if I could.The 2nd Womble wrote: 1) Do you think it's acceptable not to wear a helmet when you ride under the current laws?
2) Do you think it's unnacceptable not to?
3) Do you think it's still optional regardless?
However I think there would be real benefit in adding further questions:
2.1: Do you support MHLs? Yes/No
2.2: If the MHL was repealed, and as an adult:
2.2.1: Would you still always wear a helmet
2.2.2: Would you sometimes not wear a helmet
2.2.3: Would you throw the helmet away
2.2: If the MHL was repealed, and as a parent:
2.2.1: Would your children still always wear a helmet
2.2.2: Would your children sometimes not wear a helmet
2.2.3: Would you throw the kids' helmets away
I'm a solid 1 with the footnote that repealing MHLs will not change my behaviour one bit.
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Re: Do you support helmet less riding while we have MHL's
Postby human909 » Thu Sep 20, 2012 9:33 pm
Its interesting, I'm honestly unsure how my behaviour would change. I think for recreational / fitness riding I'll continue wearing a helmet 100% of the time. My shorter distance local commutes... Well I think I'd just take the easy option. If the helmet is hanging from the handlebars then I'll probably just throw it on. Though at the moment sometimes I feel it is my obligation to disobey MHLs.Mulger bill wrote:I'm a solid 1 with the footnote that repealing MHLs will not change my behaviour one bit.
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(Also, I outdoor rock climb regularly and I choose to wear a helmet, not everyone does.)
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Ronk, it isn't really anything I haven't already said earlier. I'm not sure what bit you were referring to, but if you want to elaborate we can take it next door (the other thread)
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Re: Do you support helmet less riding while we have MHL's
Postby Comedian » Thu Sep 20, 2012 10:10 pm
I see so so many other laws being broken...,
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Re: Do you support helmet less riding while we have MHL's
Postby DavidS » Fri Sep 21, 2012 12:43 am
I think it is acceptable to not wear a helmet under the current laws. Note the word acceptable. Many other things come into consideration: from a moral and political standpoint I do think civil disobedience is reasonable in the face of a law you find unjustifiable but this is a strategy you have to consider in relation to whether the strategy will work or not. While I would continue to support civil disobedience I don't think it would be a successful strategy in this instance. While I may find this acceptable I do wear a helmet for the simple reason that I do not wish to pay the fines, I would get caught as I ride to work every day and mainly ride on roads. Laws should be the servant of the people, not the master.
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