Viner Campagnolo build

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Re: Viner Campagnolo build

Postby Zynster » Fri Sep 21, 2012 7:05 pm

diggerdantheman wrote:I think I need to de-campy the wheels - stickers just aren't my thing. And does anyone know how to shut that ratchet up?


I have a very similar build with my Coppi and I de-stickered the wheels. Much better with a steel frame IMO. I'm thinking of coming to Raterday tomorrow so we can compare notes. The Campy wheel ratchet is part of the deal. You'll get to like it.
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Re: Viner Campagnolo build

Postby landscapecadmonkey » Fri Sep 21, 2012 8:25 pm

diggerdantheman wrote: And does anyone know how to shut that ratchet up?

Call me a contrarian.. because many have, but this is thee single reason im avoiding Campy for my build.

The Campy-Click is the same as the Harley-Howl in my book. Look at me marketing.

If they did a semi-silent pawl, id jump on the Veloce.

Very nice built Dan.
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Re: Viner Campagnolo build

Postby munga » Fri Sep 21, 2012 9:01 pm

Joizus, you should listen to my scirocco's!
You could open them up and squirt a bit of grease in there with a syringe I guess.
Might quiten the pawls down a bit.
For a while.
Maybe.

See you tomorrow Zynster.
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Re: Viner Campagnolo build

Postby landscapecadmonkey » Fri Sep 21, 2012 10:00 pm

munga wrote:Joizus, you should listen to my scirocco's!
You could open them up and squirt a bit of grease in there with a syringe I guess.

i fully recognise that it is I that has the problem.
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Re: Viner Campagnolo build

Postby Dan » Sat Sep 22, 2012 2:01 am

landscapecadmonkey wrote:
munga wrote:Joizus, you should listen to my scirocco's!
You could open them up and squirt a bit of grease in there with a syringe I guess.

i fully recognise that it is I that has the problem.


You say problem I say aversion. ;)
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Re: Viner Campagnolo build

Postby Wal42 » Sat Sep 22, 2012 7:50 pm

Ask Vaeske about the Fulcrums on the drug cheat, you reckon the Campy's are noisy.
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Re: Viner Campagnolo build

Postby BRLVR.v2 » Sat Sep 22, 2012 8:00 pm

Wal42 wrote:Ask Vaeske about the Fulcrums on the drug cheat, you reckon the Campy's are noisy.


Fulcrum are campys. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Fulcrum_Wheels
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Re: Viner Campagnolo build

Postby Dan » Sat Sep 22, 2012 9:14 pm

Since the fulcrums have an interchangeable pawl/ratchet thingy (highly technical terminology), is it possible that it could be decampified?
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Re: Viner Campagnolo build

Postby Dan » Sat Sep 22, 2012 9:36 pm

Just picked up a chrome tanned kangaroo hide off the ebays - gonna recover the vinyl San Marco ;)
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Re: Viner Campagnolo build

Postby vaeske » Wed Sep 26, 2012 9:39 am

diggerdantheman wrote:Since the fulcrums have an interchangeable pawl/ratchet thingy (highly technical terminology), is it possible that it could be decampified?


yes it can. they are supposed to be interchangable.
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Re: Viner Campagnolo build

Postby Dan » Wed Sep 26, 2012 9:54 am

vaeske wrote:
diggerdantheman wrote:Since the fulcrums have an interchangeable pawl/ratchet thingy (highly technical terminology), is it possible that it could be decampified?


yes it can. they are supposed to be interchangable.


Anyone de-noised one?
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Re: Viner Campagnolo build

Postby singlespeedscott » Fri Sep 28, 2012 5:52 am

Why? Part of riding a modern Campy equipped bike is about the freehub ratchet noise. If you wanted to ride a silent freewheeling bike you should of put on boring, I'm a sheep, Shimano components.
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Re: Viner Campagnolo build

Postby Dan » Fri Sep 28, 2012 6:23 am

singlespeedscott wrote:Why? Part of riding a modern Campy equipped bike is about the freehub ratchet noise. If you wanted to ride a silent freewheeling bike you should of put on boring, I'm a sheep, Shimano components.


And here I am, thinking my choice of equipment was based on my own particular preference for things other than the aesthetic.
Best I go check they're at the correct dB level then. Any other Team Campagnolo tricks I need to be aware of? Correct sideburn length? Collar height? Extent of jersey zip undonededness?

Just what I always dreamed this thread would become - another Campy V Shimano thread. The joy.

Must run - have to measure sideburns.
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Re: Viner Campagnolo build

Postby Carriage » Fri Sep 28, 2012 7:41 am

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Re: Viner Campagnolo build

Postby Dan » Fri Sep 28, 2012 7:54 am

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Re: Viner Campagnolo build

Postby humanbeing » Fri Sep 28, 2012 10:53 am

My Chorus hub is pretty quiet. I think a service and regrease shuts them up.
My Mavic hub with ShimaNO is very noisy :?
Neither bothers me.
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Re: Viner Campagnolo build

Postby BRLVR.v2 » Fri Sep 28, 2012 12:07 pm

humanbeing wrote:.
My Mavic hub with ShimaNO is very noisy :?


I run these on 2 of my bikes and think its a happy medium between the silent shimano and the rowdy campy.
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Re: Viner Campagnolo build

Postby Dan » Fri Sep 28, 2012 12:42 pm

BRLVR.v2 wrote:
humanbeing wrote:.
My Mavic hub with ShimaNO is very noisy :?


I run these on 2 of my bikes and think its a happy medium between the silent shimano and the rowdy campy.


Finally, some sense. Out of Radelaide. Thanks Dave :)
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Re: Viner Campagnolo build

Postby Crowz » Fri Sep 28, 2012 1:38 pm

Bike looks awesome. Is it very hard putting a new groupset onto an old frame?
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Re: Viner Campagnolo build

Postby Dan » Fri Sep 28, 2012 1:50 pm

Crowz wrote:Bike looks awesome. Is it very hard putting a new groupset onto an old frame?


Thanks James! It rides well too.

Putting it together is relatively easy as long as you have the right bits. Get the frame first so you know rear spacing, headset dimensions, bottom bracket thread, etc. - from there you order/source all the parts you need. After that its just like Lego.

Here's a groupset that might be suitable for you...
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Re: Viner Campagnolo build

Postby Crowz » Fri Sep 28, 2012 1:52 pm

diggerdantheman wrote:
Crowz wrote:Bike looks awesome. Is it very hard putting a new groupset onto an old frame?


Thanks James! It rides well too.

Putting it together is relatively easy as long as you have the right bits. Get the frame first so you know rear spacing, headset dimensions, bottom bracket thread, etc. - from there you order/source all the parts you need. After that its just like Lego.

Here's a groupset that might be suitable for you...


Bit out of my league at the moment, trying to find something original and complete to start off so I can learn how it all works. I'm sure it will happen eventually though hahaha
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Re: Viner Campagnolo build

Postby Dan » Fri Sep 28, 2012 2:52 pm

So, an update on the viner - its superb.
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Re: Viner Campagnolo build

Postby BRLVR.v2 » Fri Sep 28, 2012 4:36 pm

Crowz wrote:Bit out of my league at the moment, trying to find something original and complete to start off so I can learn how it all works. I'm sure it will happen eventually though hahaha


Yes it will, its a slippery slope.

retro steel with modern running gear is a sweet thing indeed. it's not hard to do, everything is essentially the same, except the gear shifting mechanism is at your fingertips instead of the down tube, and only requires adaptors to make it compatible .
Inspiration here http://www.bikeforums.net/showthread.ph ... s-or-Ergos
http://www.fixed.org.au/forums/f8/retro ... ers-19321/ plenty of peeps doin it.
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Re: Viner Campagnolo build

Postby Carriage » Fri Sep 28, 2012 4:43 pm

What's the cost like? I assume you save on frame but pay more by buying groupset etc aftermarket?
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Re: Viner Campagnolo build

Postby Dan » Fri Sep 28, 2012 5:10 pm

Group was bought through the inter webs - was actually quite cheap, but no warranty etc. That's the risk.
Wheelset & pedals bought locally (second hard), bar tape, seat post etc all local too, used a saddle I had lying about.

I'd go as far as to say you couldn't buy something new (at this level spec) for under $1000 - which is what this build cost. Plus, its steel.

Give it a go - you'd be surprised how far your $$$ will go.
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