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Help shut down this FB page

Postby The 2nd Womble » Sun Sep 23, 2012 8:50 pm

I know everyone is entitled to their opinion, but within reason.
If you're on FB, report these knobs for being knobs. Some of it is pretty poor.

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Postby ColinOldnCranky » Sun Sep 23, 2012 10:22 pm

On the surface it is not the stated intent of the page to call for heinous vigilantes to take out cyclists and so forth. It is just that any comment vaguely critical of cycling attracts them. This is regardless of the intent of the person starting the page.

Everything get hijacked by tools on the internet.

Not worth it Womble. It won't make your life any better even if FB did act on it.
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Postby The 2nd Womble » Sun Sep 23, 2012 10:33 pm

The page wasn't started with the intent of inciting violence against cyclists, but after talking with the pages creator who claims to have been skittled by a cyclist recently, he is keen on leaving the offending comments up. I this needn't concern me Colin I don't know what should tbh.
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Postby ldrcycles » Sun Sep 23, 2012 10:37 pm

I've already reported it, as much as i doubt fb will do anything, at least i have done something. It is not ok for people to say 'we should run over all the *expletive', in my book that is threatening a group with murder, and if it isn't already a crime, it bloody well should be. The person who started the page can say that they aren't against cyclists but that counts for zero if they do not remove such comments. To remain silent is to consent.
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Postby human909 » Sun Sep 23, 2012 10:44 pm

I believe quite strongly in free speech up to the point of directly inciting hate or directly inciting violence towards others. The premise of that facebook page is not doing that. The presence of offensive comments there is no different from those found on TheAge/SMH by users.

As such I strongly believe the site should be allowed to exist. The Facebook page owning is expressing his opinion on government infrastructure decisions in Sydney. I would be repulsed to live in a country that repressed such expression.

If any PARTICULAR posts incite hate or violence then by all means report them. But honestly I think it would be better spending your time elsewhere.
ldrcycles wrote:I've already reported it, as much as i doubt fb will do anything, at least i have done something. It is not ok for people to say 'we should run over all the *expletive', in my book that is threatening a group with murder, and if it isn't already a crime, it bloody well should be. The person who started the page can say that they aren't against cyclists but that counts for zero if they do not remove such comments. To remain silent is to consent.
I'm sorry but that is BS. If you start holding communication facilitators responsible for the content that that is expressed then where does it stop? It is attitudes like that which cause forums and other such communication mediums to be overzealous in moderation and thus what happens to free speech?

For example is BNA forums consenting and encouraging the breaking of laws by allowing comments on their forums concerning illegal behaviour such as riding without a bell or riding without a helmet?

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Postby mikesbytes » Sun Sep 23, 2012 11:05 pm

This Poster posted that cyclists should be run down

http://www.facebook.com/flash.gordon.779
If the R-1 rule is broken, what happens to N+1?

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Postby Mulger bill » Sun Sep 23, 2012 11:12 pm

Maybe someone needs to post some pics of redmanning peds with road rule references?
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Re: Help shut down this FB page

Postby human909 » Sun Sep 23, 2012 11:15 pm

mikesbytes wrote:This Poster posted that cyclists should be run down

http://www.facebook.com/flash.gordon.779
So report such inciting of violence of the police if you so wish. (Given recent events if it was an islamic or anti-islamic post then the police would be onto it in a second. :P )

But the fact of the matter is that we live in a free society with largely free speech. The relevant authorities have better things to do that chase after Joe (redneck) Bloggs and his posts.

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Postby The 2nd Womble » Sun Sep 23, 2012 11:31 pm

mikesbytes wrote:This Poster posted that cyclists should be run down

http://www.facebook.com/flash.gordon.779
The guy needs a cuddle :shock: His personal page just depressed me so much I wanted to top myself for a second.
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Re: Help shut down this FB page

Postby biftek » Mon Sep 24, 2012 9:39 am

is this the society that we live in , where everyone has a sook about anything and everything , build a bridge and get over it

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Postby The 2nd Womble » Mon Sep 24, 2012 9:53 am

And yet you'll complain the next time you get buzzed, cut off, or have something thrown out a window. Stiff upper lip etc hey?
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Postby mikesbytes » Mon Sep 24, 2012 10:21 am

Looks like they have removed Flash Gordon's posts
If the R-1 rule is broken, what happens to N+1?

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Postby human909 » Mon Sep 24, 2012 10:21 am

The 2nd Womble wrote:And yet you'll complain the next time you get buzzed, cut off, or have something thrown out a window. Stiff upper lip etc hey?
A big difference between speech and attacks.

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Postby jimsheedy » Mon Sep 24, 2012 12:05 pm

The page has 29 likes and 13 people following it. It is virtually non existent. Let em have their fun. Stops em pulling wings off flys I guess.
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Postby biftek » Mon Sep 24, 2012 12:32 pm

The 2nd Womble wrote:And yet you'll complain the next time you get buzzed, cut off, or have something thrown out a window. Stiff upper lip etc hey?
words on a screen , nothing to get twisted over

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Postby cp123 » Mon Sep 24, 2012 2:17 pm

I had a look at it. Half of the articles are about 2 years old. I thought he's obviously been digging the depths of bad cycling articles to get his ammunition.

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Postby The 2nd Womble » Mon Sep 24, 2012 2:20 pm

biftek wrote:
The 2nd Womble wrote:And yet you'll complain the next time you get buzzed, cut off, or have something thrown out a window. Stiff upper lip etc hey?
words on a screen , nothing to get twisted over
You are :|
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Postby The 2nd Womble » Mon Sep 24, 2012 2:20 pm

biftek wrote:
The 2nd Womble wrote:And yet you'll complain the next time you get buzzed, cut off, or have something thrown out a window. Stiff upper lip etc hey?
words on a screen , nothing to get twisted over
You are :|
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Postby g-boaf » Wed Oct 03, 2012 1:33 pm

mikesbytes wrote:This Poster posted that cyclists should be run down

http://www.facebook.com/flash.gordon.779
Anything like that should be reported to the Police, they can deal with it. That is using a carriage service to incite hatred/violence.

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Re: Help shut down this FB page

Postby Ozkaban » Wed Oct 03, 2012 1:44 pm

Are we really that concerned with a FB page with 16 likes? Less than 10% of the "Cycle" page likes.

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Postby The 2nd Womble » Wed Oct 03, 2012 2:18 pm

I think I grossly overestimated the future popularity of this fb page. Happy to let it die slowly.
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Re: Help shut down this FB page

Postby Ozkaban » Wed Oct 03, 2012 3:17 pm

I must admit, when I first saw your comment on FB about it I checked it, saw 16 likes and wondered how it would go. It's been about a week now and that number hasn't changed...

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Re: Help shut down this FB page

Postby Tornado » Wed Oct 03, 2012 9:47 pm

The 2nd Womble wrote:I think I grossly overestimated the future popularity of this fb page. Happy to let it die slowly.
I'm banned from it. Hahahahahaha.

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Re: Help shut down this FB page

Postby Mrfenejeans » Wed Oct 03, 2012 10:15 pm

I Hate Sydney Cycleways & Bike Paths wrote: ...and waste more of the text payer's $$$$$$$
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Postby Tornado » Wed Oct 03, 2012 10:21 pm

Mrfenejeans wrote:
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Providing that clown with life support would be a waste of tax payers money. Oxygen thief.
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