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Tecnotrat frames

Postby morini » Mon Sep 24, 2012 9:59 pm

Can any one tell me more than what little I can find on the web and here about Tecnotrat frames? Some how I now seem to own two of the bl**dy things and they're both different. One uses a 26.6 seat post but the other uses a 27.0 post. Both have the standard heart shapes in the lugs, chromed rear stays, both have Tecnotrat drop-outs and Eyetie threads.
One is a candidate for being a Europa, maybe, but the other has the remnants of stickers that call it a "Super Record". Now, I've seen a few of them on here but this one is different again. It's got a 27mm post and is as light as f*ck and looks to have what may be an original Columbus sticker on it. If this makes sense; the tubing feels like fake tinny tubing it's so thin. What's odd is that it has mud guard eyelets. Maybe it's a weird ultra lightweight touring bike for those who travel with nothing but a credit card? Came with Campag Athena bits, a rear Superbe Pro calliper, S-Pro rear hub, Campag rim and a dodgy replacement front end from K-Mart. Cost $65 so it was pretty good buying.

Got me rooted. I'll post some pictures tomorrow of both frames. Any ideas greatly appreciated.
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Re: Tecnotrat frames

Postby Velo13 » Tue Sep 25, 2012 7:02 am

Hi morini, search the forums for "Tecnotrat", there's plenty of info there.
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Re: Tecnotrat frames

Postby morini » Tue Sep 25, 2012 8:15 am

Cheers. I did and there's bugger all info here. Well, less than you think.
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Re: Tecnotrat frames

Postby darkhorse75 » Tue Sep 25, 2012 9:51 am

check your spelling, Technotrat with an H
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Re: Tecnotrat frames

Postby BRLVR.v2 » Tue Sep 25, 2012 1:10 pm

Could be a debernadi?
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Re: Tecnotrat frames

Postby munga » Tue Sep 25, 2012 5:53 pm

yeah it shouldn't have an 'H' in it tho..
internet dumbing us down
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Re: Tecnotrat frames

Postby munga » Tue Sep 25, 2012 5:58 pm

BRLVR.v2 wrote:Could be a debernadi?


could be a saronni too?

my tecnotrat europa has a 26.8mm seatpost
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Re: Tecnotrat frames

Postby BRLVR.v2 » Tue Sep 25, 2012 7:00 pm

munga wrote:
BRLVR.v2 wrote:Could be a debernadi?


could be a saronni too?

my tecnotrat europa has a 26.8mm seatpost



https://www.google.com.au/search?q=tecn ... 00&bih=775

https://www.google.com.au/search?num=10 ... Y3FQp8vUPs
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Re: Tecnotrat frames

Postby munga » Tue Sep 25, 2012 7:57 pm

and here we have a pic of the brauluver with his debernadi gym towel rack track hack from his college days:

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Re: Tecnotrat frames

Postby BRLVR.v2 » Tue Sep 25, 2012 8:28 pm

Well I've got hairy arms like that dude, but that's where the similarities end. Oh, and I'd have a beer in my hand mofo.

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It was Munga's blue one that so impressed me I bought the red one, only he's girly and rocks a brake!
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Re: Tecnotrat frames

Postby morini » Tue Sep 25, 2012 9:59 pm

One of mine may be a "Record" brand bike. The model being a Super Record. I called Abeni today and he reckons he sold bikes called Super Record. He also reckoned that this frame was a fair dinkum Italiano built Columbus unit with a 27.2 post. Mine had a 27.0 in it but this could because a previous owner just put what they thought fitted in. I'll check tomorrow. The other one was my mistake. It also has a 26.8 post and not a 26.6. Too many flucken seat post sizes in this world and I need a digital set of verniers. I'm losing my close range eyesight.

No real news here but interesting all the same.
http://www.jackalventure.com/blog/?p=356

Both my frames could be any of the Abeni family, or is it the Tecnotrat family? De Bernardi, Record, Europa, Saronni, Banani, Ferrari, Abeni.............any more out there? What a c*ck up in history.

I think I'll paint mine red and wack on the only anti Abeni stickers available, Saronni. Pity it's too small for me.
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Re: Tecnotrat frames

Postby Velo13 » Wed Sep 26, 2012 7:31 am

There were several different models/grades of Tecnotrats over the years and IIRC the main differences were tubings. I recall ORIA and Falck being the main ones, but I am sure the factory would slap together whatever they could get at the best price at the time. The heart shapes on the lugs were prominent.

Go with the Saronni decals, or get something tastefully made up just for you.
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Re: Tecnotrat frames

Postby BRLVR.v2 » Wed Sep 26, 2012 12:39 pm

Many had english bb as well. Mine was pg oria .08,& had gipiemme drop outs.
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Re: Tecnotrat frames

Postby morini » Wed Sep 26, 2012 2:22 pm

Took some pictures.
The blue one is actually called a"Record Sport" + 27.0 seat post + mud guard lugs + English BB + heart cut outs
The black one has + 26.8 seat post + no mud guard lugs + Vitus cable router + no hearts in the lugs + possibly an English BB
The yellow one is a Europa + Falk sticker + made by Tecnotrat sticker + 26.8 post + no hearts + no name drop outs + French BB

All three have very similar seat stay caps.

Some one from Tasmania, McBain?, made bikes called "Record" , with a model called a Record Sports. If I didn't know any better this is one of them.

All look to be from the same factory to me. Crazy array of specifications though.

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Re: Tecnotrat frames

Postby Velo13 » Wed Sep 26, 2012 4:46 pm

Nice post, some good info there.
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