sunho wrote:
P. S I have not seen anyone wear a tour yellow, polka dot or green jersey yet...
I have worn a green tour jersey. That said it was a pub ride for St Pats...
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Postby takai » Thu Sep 27, 2012 9:24 pm
sunho wrote:
P. S I have not seen anyone wear a tour yellow, polka dot or green jersey yet...
Postby yarravalleyplodder » Thu Sep 27, 2012 9:51 pm
find_bruce wrote:Scarfy96 wrote:I sort of lean towards, team kit OK, winners jerseys of various forms - if you haven't earned them then don't wear them. But each to their own.
It's funny, but I am the opposite - I am not interested in wearing a company's logo unless I am being paid to do so. I drive a ford falcon, but I have not had it painted to look like Mark Winterbottom's.
If I am honest though, I am more likely to be paid NOT to wear a company's jersey than the other way round.
Postby RonK » Thu Sep 27, 2012 10:14 pm
skull wrote:RonK wrote:I passed the world champion(apparently) out on the road recently - bad form I reckon. It's not something I'd bother to comment to the wearer about (unless I knew him), but the thought that immediately came to mind rhymes with anchor.
Why bad form?
Also how do you know they haven't ever qualified to wear rainbows. I have riden with a few world champs and the uniformed wouldn't know.
Postby Baldy » Thu Sep 27, 2012 10:19 pm
bazsand wrote:Baldy wrote:ldrcycles wrote:I'm all for wearing the jersey of whatever team takes your fancy (my first jersey was Milram, just because i liked the colour) but the tour jerseys or the rainbow stripes...it's just a bit different, you're supposed to earn those. Don't get me wrong if someone wants to wear one go right ahead, no skin off my nose, i just wouldn't myself.
The only time its wrong to wear a winners jersey is if you have a pro contract and you did not win it.
For the rest of us....no one cares and like the others said if they do they are not worth worrying about.[Not talkiing about you Ldrcycles, just the rabit tossers who would yell stuff out in the street]
I have Liquigas and BMC and I'm pretty sure no one is going to mistake me for Basso or Gilbert
You had me fooled......but I was starting to wonder why Basso & Gilbert would turn up on a Specialized bike
Postby Baldy » Thu Sep 27, 2012 10:47 pm
RonK wrote:skull wrote:RonK wrote:I passed the world champion(apparently) out on the road recently - bad form I reckon. It's not something I'd bother to comment to the wearer about (unless I knew him), but the thought that immediately came to mind rhymes with anchor.
Why bad form?
Also how do you know they haven't ever qualified to wear rainbows. I have riden with a few world champs and the uniformed wouldn't know.
You don't understand why it's bad form to display an honour that you didn't earn and are not entitled to display? You need it spelled out to you that it is dishonest, false, and disrespectful?
And let me assure you that the person concerned was clearly not a world champion.
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Postby DavidL » Thu Sep 27, 2012 11:28 pm
RonK wrote:skull wrote:RonK wrote:I passed the world champion(apparently) out on the road recently - bad form I reckon. It's not something I'd bother to comment to the wearer about (unless I knew him), but the thought that immediately came to mind rhymes with anchor.
Why bad form?
Also how do you know they haven't ever qualified to wear rainbows. I have riden with a few world champs and the uniformed wouldn't know.
You don't understand why it's bad form to display an honour that you didn't earn and are not entitled to display? You need it spelled out to you that it is dishonest, false, and disrespectful?
And let me assure you that the person concerned was clearly not a world champion.
Postby RonK » Fri Sep 28, 2012 6:44 am
DavidL wrote:Riding down to get the milk, or into the office in rainbows is not bad form to and think so is just being pathetic and pedantic. Competing in rainbows is a completely different matter.
The people that are wearing such jersey really wouldn't care what the wannabe pro's are scoffing at, we are just enjoying the ride. A national jersey isn't saying that I think I am on the national team, just proud to be an Aussie.
- David.
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Postby JustJames » Fri Sep 28, 2012 8:21 am
RonK wrote:Ah, so you are just being patriotic - like these blokes I suppose, who also enjoy wearing honours they didn't earn.
Well, I guess that should be all right then...
Postby gururug » Fri Sep 28, 2012 8:43 am
JustJames wrote:Like many others, I would not buy myself any of those jerseys but I see no reason to get my panties in a wad just because somebody else views it differently.
Postby skull » Fri Sep 28, 2012 9:25 am
bigfriendlyvegan wrote:skull wrote:bigfriendlyvegan wrote:
You can wear the World/National champs jersey in the year you have won it and are the world/national champion, and then only in the event in which you have won it (e.g. if you're the world kieren champion, you can't wear your stripes for a points race). After that you wear the stripes on your sleeves. So if you see someone training in a world champion's jersey either they're still drunk after winning the jersey and are tooling around, or they've been to Mupi.
So if they qualified competing in worlds for Masters or Juniors that doesn't count then? Nice to see you have insulted people who have raced and qualified. Also wondering if you have qualified to wear the rainbow to be able to judge others for wearing it?
So as I said are you sure they aren't allowed to wear the rainbow? There is more than one race to qualify for them.
And as again so what if someone wears what they want, why is it bad form.
I don't know if I understand what you mean in your response. I was letting you know the rules as set down by the UCI (I'm training as a commissaire) . Let me address the points as you have made them.skull wrote:So if they qualified competing in worlds for Masters or Juniors that doesn't count then? Nice to see you have insulted people who have raced and qualified. Also wondering if you have qualified to wear the rainbow to be able to judge others for wearing it?
Only the winner is allowed to wear the rainbow stripes. Many (but not all) of the qualifiers are national champions and they're allowed to wear their national champions jersey. I don't know how I insulted anyone at all. I know lots of people who have qualified for world championships and haven't won. They don't get to wear the stripes.
So, am I sure they aren't allowed to wear the rainbow stripes? Yes. It's in the UCI rules. Look them up. They can wear their champion jersey ONLY while they're champion and ONLY while participating in the event they win their championship in. After that they can wear the bands on their sleeves. Have a look at the riders during the tour to see what I mean.skull wrote:And as again so what if someone wears what they want, why is it bad form.
Your original post asked how do you know if someone wearing the stripes while riding on the street hasn't won a world championship. I think I've answered that. That's why it's bad form, in my opinion. Obviously, people can do what they want, but I can assure you that anyone casually wearing a world champion's jersey is not a world champion.
Postby Max » Fri Sep 28, 2012 9:37 am
JustJames wrote:Ron, I think you are taking this jerseys thing overly seriously. Until and unless somebody wearing the jersey is actually claiming that they are TdF KoM/World Champ/TdF GC leader, wearing the jersey is just another way of them expressing their love of our sport.
Like many others, I would not buy myself any of those jerseys but I see no reason to get my panties in a wad just because somebody else views it differently.
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Postby find_bruce » Fri Sep 28, 2012 10:37 am
Do you have a slim-fit physique and want something that will show the efforts of your hard training and work?
This jersey will fit you like a custom-fitted 2nd skin!
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Look like a pro. Wear like a pro. Ride like a pro.
Postby GraemeL » Fri Sep 28, 2012 10:45 am
Kemp wrote:I can't believe how uptight some people are about this WC jersey business. It's about the same as Joe Blow walking down the street with an 'I won the Nobel Prize for x' t-shirt. They shouldn't be taken seriously. After all, what business is it of anyone else's what jersey someone decides to wear? I couldn't care if someone rode past me in a pink tu-tu with a feather duster. If that's their thing then so what? Sure, they might look like a goof, but why would you be worried or annoyed about someone else looking like a goof?
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Postby clackers » Fri Sep 28, 2012 11:36 am
Kemp wrote:After all, what business is it of anyone else's what jersey someone decides to wear?
Postby roller » Fri Sep 28, 2012 11:56 am
clackers wrote:Kemp wrote:After all, what business is it of anyone else's what jersey someone decides to wear?
No one's, Kemp.
But I think it's more a lack of judgment to wear a champion's jersey than to wear a tutu.
Respect isn't shown for vets on Anzac Day by filling up your chest with replica medals and ribbons!
Postby PB12IN » Fri Sep 28, 2012 12:07 pm
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