Cyclist fined for riding 56km/h in Scarborough school zone

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Re: Cyclist fined for riding 56km/h in Scarborough school zo

Postby GraemeL » Fri Sep 28, 2012 11:02 am

Mulger bill wrote:
GraemeL wrote:I go through two school zones daily and I have to say that the speeders I see are mostly women, both arriving at the school and leaving with their little darlings.

Signs will do little to stop it, whether electronic or not. Heftier penalties would make them think twice.

Graeme


You could make the fine $10,000 per km/h over and it won't mean jack if there's no enforcement. Risk of being busted is a much greater deterrent than higher penalties.


The risk of being busted does jack to deter people, just drive along any road.

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Re: Cyclist fined for riding 56km/h in Scarborough school zo

Postby maestro » Fri Sep 28, 2012 11:44 am

Mulger bill wrote:I'm sure there's an element of both Toolong.

Seriously? Quiet roads less than an hour before gate hour? At my lads school they start arriving ~70-80" before stumps then sit there with the aircon running :shock:


Pity you aren't in NSW... NSW specific rule 291-1
The driver of a vehicle that is stationary must switch off the vehicle’s
engine so far as may be necessary for the prevention of noise.
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Re: Cyclist fined for riding 56km/h in Scarborough school zo

Postby Mulger bill » Fri Sep 28, 2012 7:48 pm

GraemeL wrote:The risk of being busted does jack to deter people, just drive along any road.

Where you'll find no patrolling plod cars but maybe the odd scamera or thirtyseven, hence a low to sodall risk of being busted for anything except speeding.
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Re: Cyclist fined for riding 56km/h in Scarborough school zo

Postby GraemeL » Sat Sep 29, 2012 12:42 pm

Mulger bill wrote:
GraemeL wrote:The risk of being busted does jack to deter people, just drive along any road.

Where you'll find no patrolling plod cars but maybe the odd scamera or thirtyseven, hence a low to sodall risk of being busted for anything except speeding.


We need both, more cops on the roads as well as heftier fines.


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Re: Cyclist fined for riding 56km/h in Scarborough school zo

Postby jindydiver » Sat Sep 29, 2012 5:03 pm

Mulger bill wrote:

You could make the fine $10,000 per km/h over and it won't mean jack if there's no enforcement. Risk of being busted is a much greater deterrent than higher penalties.


That's it. If you increase the fine you still don't modify the behavior because most don't believe they will get caught. It is the catching that modifies the behavior.
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Re: Cyclist fined for riding 56km/h in Scarborough school zo

Postby Oxford » Sat Sep 29, 2012 6:46 pm

25 odd years ago in Qld, speeding fines were petty cash and no points were accumulated. it was pretty much a money grab by the government, but most people still sped since it was worth the occasional fine to get places quicker. still remember going down the old pacific highway to the gold coast doing roughly 10km/h over the limit and feeling like I was standing still with cars passing me. about 20 odd years ago the system was changed to bring it into line with other states, fines increased, points were accumulated and people started bitching about it. people still speed though so not really sure anything is better other than the government coffers.
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