August 2012 - not so good for cyclists in Supreme Court

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Re: August 2012 - not so good for cyclists in Supreme Court

Postby find_bruce » Mon Oct 08, 2012 8:19 pm

Colin a minor but important correction - the driver did not plead guilty - the court found he was so mentally disordered so as not to be able to plead guilty or not guilty or to go through the process of a trial
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Re: August 2012 - not so good for cyclists in Supreme Court

Postby Mulger bill » Mon Oct 08, 2012 9:33 pm

He has the knowledge to be able to disable an interlock but he isn't fit to stand trial?

Somebody, anybody please explain the logic in this?
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Re: August 2012 - not so good for cyclists in Supreme Court

Postby ColinOldnCranky » Tue Oct 09, 2012 12:49 am

find_bruce wrote:Colin a minor but important correction - the driver did not plead guilty - the court found he was so mentally disordered so as not to be able to plead guilty or not guilty or to go through the process of a trial

Quite right.

From re-reading the ABC's coverage I am guessing that the prosecution offered the family the option of having him face a lesser charge to which he would agree to plead guilty. And that they were not satisfied with the level of punishment that would have involved. Seeking revenge, is neither smart nor necessarily noble, though perfectly understandable.

I don't see any reference to appealing the outcome so I guess that that is that. No winners, all losers. :(


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Hmmm. The more I read the more confusing it becomes. It looks like it may have made no difference whatsoever to what the family did or did not do, the outcome would seem to be constrained to about what it was anyway.

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Re: August 2012 - not so good for cyclists in Supreme Court

Postby find_bruce » Tue Oct 09, 2012 8:43 am

Mulger bill wrote:He has the knowledge to be able to disable an interlock but he isn't fit to stand trial?

Somebody, anybody please explain the logic in this?

It was his car, he installed the interlock & he was given the pin. Fitness to stand trial usually comes down to knowing the difference between right and wrong

Because different parts of the brain look after different functions, a brain injury can be very debilitating in one area while leaving another completly functional. Pretty much every cyclist can relate to the difference between the physical ability to aim a car in the general direction you want to go & the judgement required to drive safely.

It is easy to explain the difference between the ability to carry out a function & knowing the difference between right and wrong.

The driver has carers who are meant to be looking after him. Given the driver has been found to have so little judgement that he can't comprehend the difference between right and wrong, I can't even begin to understand why those carers thought it was appropriate for him to have access to a motor vehicle, especially when he has 4 drink driving convictions in 10 years.
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