Brand new 80s LOOK ???? !!!!

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Brand new 80s LOOK ???? !!!!

Postby Nitram » Sun Oct 07, 2012 9:42 pm

I went to visit a mate last week out a farm in the Central West NSW, and he showed me around the place. There was this white LOOK racer covered with the crud of about 15 or 20 years sitting in a dusty corner of a open farm shed, and his wife said it was going to the tip with about 20 tons of other scrap.............. Like hell it was !!

So I brought it home and spent an hour or two this arvo giving it a bit of a once-over. I thought a LOOK was a French-made top deck racer, and if you bought one of their current carbon fibre bikes now, it'd cost you an arm and a leg. But this bike was, I think, pretty low-spec.

The frame says "Tange", but doesn't say Tange 1 or Tange 2 or anything like that. I think it's about 57cm top tube. It has a little mounting pin on the frame just below the steering head for mounting a long pump under the top tube, and the dropouts are part of the frame. The back brake cable runs through guides that are welded to the top of the top tube.
The forks are molded at the top- NOT the kind that have a forged top section and brazed in legs. There are lugs at the bottom of the forks, presumably for a mudguard bracket.
The brake calipers and levers are Exage Motion.
The Deraillers and crank are Exage 300EX, 170mm.
Kalloy seatpost.
Hsinlung bars.
Shimano 7 speed indexed shifters on the down tube.
The wheels rims are black Araya 700C with stainless pokes, and the front has a major buckle that hasn't responded to about an hour stuffing around with spoke tension. With the brakes backed off, the front wheel still spins. The hubs have a sticker that says "sealed mech- FH-HG50" and "Exage".
The chain ring was a steel Bio-Pace.
The bike was fitted with reflectors front and back, and on each wheel, and it had horrible steel pedals.

Interestingly, the black rims are unmarked from the brake pads rubbing, the brake pads them selves are unmarked, and the bottom bracket and steering head bearings are smooth. The wheel bearings are a bit rough, and the tyres are unworn and hold air, and the tubes have French valves. I suspect that the bike hit something shortly after it was bought, the front rim got damaged and it was never ridden again. It was quite heavy (but then I'm a bit used to my modern carbon bike.......) but I got rid of the reflectors and fitted alloy chain rings and Shimano clip pedals that I had lying around and it now looks considerably lighter, and that's what counts !!

I went for a short spin around the block this evening, and even with the buckled rims and gritty chain, it still rides very nicely. I'm now on the lookout for some period 175mm cranks and a decent set of wheels, and I think I'll have a nice stable-mate for my old CrMo Lenny Rogers racer !

Here are a couple of pictures:

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Anyway, after all that, does anyone know the history of LOOK bikes ? Although this bike is nice and Retro, I don't think it was a top-shelf racer. At some stage did LOOK re-invent themselves and start manufacturing in France ?
Also, would anyone care to guess it's vintage. I'm thinking, from the style of forks and the Bio-pace chain rings, early 80s ??? But I'm guessing really. Certainly it's a more modern bike than my Lenny Rogers.

Cheers,

Nitram :D :D
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Re: Brand new 80s LOOK ???? !!!!

Postby funnybike » Mon Oct 08, 2012 7:29 am

Sorry Nitram. Looks like you've acquired a nice little asian made cro-mo frame with a "genuine" Look sticker attached to it.

Look did do some steel frames at one point in the 90s, but never anything in that style or price bracket.

Doesn't mean that your bike isn't a tidy little low spec machine, it's just not a Look.
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Re: Brand new 80s LOOK ???? !!!!

Postby BRLVR.v2 » Mon Oct 08, 2012 11:22 am

Appears to be generic, repco/shogun type cromo frame from the era. PG cromo or tangalloy/mangalloy pedestrian tubeset.
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Re: Brand new 80s LOOK ???? !!!!

Postby elantra » Mon Oct 08, 2012 12:29 pm

Nitram wrote:Also, would anyone care to guess it's vintage. I'm thinking, from the style of forks and the Bio-pace chain rings, early 80s ??? But I'm guessing really. Certainly it's a more modern bike than my Lenny Rogers.

Cheers,

Nitram :D :D


Nice find. Looks good. Cannot help you with the history, but it is not "early 80's"
Recessed brake cables under handlebar tape and 7-speed freewheel puts it after 1988, probably about 1990.
Get it operational, ASAP and give us some after photos, thanks.
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Re: Brand new 80s LOOK ???? !!!!

Postby rkelsen » Mon Oct 08, 2012 12:59 pm

It looks a lot like a late 80s/early 90s Shogun Katana (most likely being made in the same Tange factory). It has roughly the same level of specification and the same frame features. You can get a better idea of age by looking at the serial number (first few digits might show month & year), or by looking at the date codes on some of the Shimano bits.

http://www.classicrendezvous.com/Japan/shimano/Shimano_date_codes.htm
"Shimano uses a two digit code to track the date of manufacture. The first letter is the year and the second digit will be the month (EI would be September of 1980). Generally, the code is fairly easy to spot but is usually on the "back side" of the part."

So it might not be a Look. So what? Going by the seat and bar tape, I'm leaning towards saying that it was first purchased as you see it now. "Badge engineering" in bicycles has been happening for decades.

One thing's for sure: Decent, usable, mid-range bikes like this are becoming harder to find in this condition.
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Re: Brand new 80s LOOK ???? !!!!

Postby vaeske » Mon Oct 08, 2012 2:24 pm

cool find, pity its not the real thing...show us some pics after you've done a proper once over.
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Re: Brand new 80s LOOK ???? !!!!

Postby frailer5 » Mon Oct 08, 2012 5:04 pm

Looks very similar era/build to the Giant Perigee I had. It had Exage 300EX, unicrown fork, etc. etc. I guess a Taiwan build, mid-80s, as others have ventured. :|
The Giant was CroMo, but not butted. It was certainly pleasant enough to ride.
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Re: Brand new 80s LOOK ???? !!!!

Postby munga » Tue Oct 09, 2012 6:52 am

how many steel frame models did LOOK make?
i have an email here from a fellow member discussing such things just a few weeks ago

Be careful with steel Looks man. There were very few made and those that were made came from the 90's once Look had really taken off and they needed some lower budget models.

When Hinault started the La Vie Claire team in 84 & 85, they rode 753 frames all custom made (possibly by Cyfac). They were silver grey and badged as Hinault bikes. They also started using TVT carbon frames painted and badged the same.

In 86 they picked up Look as a key sponsor. They started using Look carbon frames but also used some steel frames (custom made by Cyfac). These are the popular white with red, blue & yellow stripes. Unfortunately, most of the ones floating around on the market are fakes. Look never produced these frames for the market as far as I am aware.

From 87 onward, the Look sponsored teams used carbon frames exclusively.

At some point in the mid 90s, Look started having steel frames made for them (outsourced) for the lower end of the market.

So, keep searching, but be careful. The team bikes were built by Cyfac & it is likely that they made the factory bikes in the 90s too. So, the real question is whether there is any such thing as a steel Look. Look
probably never ever built a steel bike.
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Re: Brand new 80s LOOK ???? !!!!

Postby munga » Tue Oct 09, 2012 6:55 am

so while we're on the topic, if anyone has a 51/52/53cm LOOK Equipe Hinault, let me know
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Re: Brand new 80s LOOK ???? !!!!

Postby vaeske » Tue Oct 09, 2012 9:05 am

^ bahahaha. dreaming. good luck though, i'll buy you a beer when you get one.
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