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cyclist or bike rider
Postby fionahills » Mon Oct 08, 2012 10:53 pm
We started talking about riding bikes, progressing etc. A lot of us on the late train were obviously among the slower participants, and had started very recently and we were chatting about how much fun it was - one chap had ridden a huge mtn bike - he said he was 146 kilos and had only ridden 20km before - great effort - anyway... we finally got around to how addictive this bike riding is... then we started talking about cyclists.... when are you a cyclist????? as opposed to someone who exercises on a bike????
I would love to be one by the way - but how long does it take???? Do I have to join a club? Are there any rules???
I have seen the cartoon.... I don't throw up after riding, my body fat is way above 7% and I am slow as a wet week at the moment but the thought of being a cyclist is just delightful - bike rider just does not have the same ring to it.
Was surprised at how much fun we got out of this topic on the train - maybe we were just delirious with heat and exhaustion - but would love to hear your thoughts
Fiona
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Re: cyclist or bike rider
Postby damhooligan » Mon Oct 08, 2012 11:19 pm
Cyslist or bike rider ??fionahills wrote:At Helensvale station and on the train back from B2GC - (plenty of time - trains two hours late all day) had a great discussion with some women from Toowoomba who had been riding for a while and belonged to a club - quite accomplished riders and very lovely - great way to pass the time.
We started talking about riding bikes, progressing etc. A lot of us on the late train were obviously among the slower participants, and had started very recently and we were chatting about how much fun it was - one chap had ridden a huge mtn bike - he said he was 146 kilos and had only ridden 20km before - great effort - anyway... we finally got around to how addictive this bike riding is... then we started talking about cyclists.... when are you a cyclist????? as opposed to someone who exercises on a bike????
I would love to be one by the way - but how long does it take???? Do I have to join a club? Are there any rules???
I have seen the cartoon.... I don't throw up after riding, my body fat is way above 7% and I am slow as a wet week at the moment but the thought of being a cyclist is just delightful - bike rider just does not have the same ring to it.
Was surprised at how much fun we got out of this topic on the train - maybe we were just delirious with heat and exhaustion - but would love to hear your thoughts
Fiona
Thats easy, you are both !
the term bike rider I don't use often, as it can be confused with motorbikes...
They are bike riders too...
Everybody that rides a bike is a cyclist.
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Re: cyclist or bike rider
Postby vaeske » Tue Oct 09, 2012 12:40 am
+1 cyclists indeed but you are really both.damhooligan wrote:Cyslist or bike rider ??fionahills wrote:At Helensvale station and on the train back from B2GC - (plenty of time - trains two hours late all day) had a great discussion with some women from Toowoomba who had been riding for a while and belonged to a club - quite accomplished riders and very lovely - great way to pass the time.
We started talking about riding bikes, progressing etc. A lot of us on the late train were obviously among the slower participants, and had started very recently and we were chatting about how much fun it was - one chap had ridden a huge mtn bike - he said he was 146 kilos and had only ridden 20km before - great effort - anyway... we finally got around to how addictive this bike riding is... then we started talking about cyclists.... when are you a cyclist????? as opposed to someone who exercises on a bike????
I would love to be one by the way - but how long does it take???? Do I have to join a club? Are there any rules???
I have seen the cartoon.... I don't throw up after riding, my body fat is way above 7% and I am slow as a wet week at the moment but the thought of being a cyclist is just delightful - bike rider just does not have the same ring to it.
Was surprised at how much fun we got out of this topic on the train - maybe we were just delirious with heat and exhaustion - but would love to hear your thoughts
Fiona
Thats easy, you are both !
the term bike rider I don't use often, as it can be confused with motorbikes...
They are bike riders too...
Everybody that rides a bike is a cyclist.
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Re: cyclist or bike rider
Postby jet-ski » Tue Oct 09, 2012 12:50 am
There are lots of silly lycra roadie rules, I'm sure someone will link to 'the rules' in the thread. They are mainly the roadies taking the p1ss out of themselves.
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Postby munga » Tue Oct 09, 2012 7:16 am
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Postby DaveOZ » Tue Oct 09, 2012 7:23 am
People who drive cars are called motorists even though most of them clearly have no ability and no understanding of the equipment they are operating.
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Re: cyclist or bike rider
Postby bychosis » Tue Oct 09, 2012 8:09 am
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Re: cyclist or bike rider
Postby The Walrus » Tue Oct 09, 2012 8:29 am
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Re: cyclist or bike rider
Postby fionahills » Tue Oct 09, 2012 11:23 am
I like that one - that means I don't have to hang around for four flats during a B2GC ride.....who am I kidding .. nothing stops mother guilt......
walrus and daveoz - I did not mean to be a smart axxx with this thread....it was just a funny conversation on the train......all us insecure new riders trying not to offend the 'real' cyclists.
sorry. Fiona
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Re: cyclist or bike rider
Postby Wal42 » Tue Oct 09, 2012 8:50 pm
It seems the whole thing is getting hi-jacked by lots who think that there are 'rules' one must stick by, they forget that some people ride to commute, some for pure pleasure, some for fitness & some for sport.
I'm still at a loss at why there has to be a distinction, maybe I haven't learnt anything from the time I've spent riding.
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Re: cyclist or bike rider
Postby find_bruce » Tue Oct 09, 2012 10:16 pm
Newby or not you are already as much a real cyclist as anyone else- all it takes is enjoying riding your bike.
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Re: cyclist or bike rider
Postby fionahills » Tue Oct 09, 2012 10:48 pm
just a silly conversation on a train after a very hot day - guess you had to be there - sometimes these things just do not translate...
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Re: cyclist or bike rider
Postby ldrcycles » Tue Oct 09, 2012 11:00 pm
And some (including myself) do all of the above. I love riding hard and competing yet one of the best moments i've had was riding a single speed repco cruiser (which cost me absolutely nothing, thanks roadside collection) to the shops at barely more than walking pace. It was just wonderfully relaxing.Wal42 wrote: some people ride to commute, some for pure pleasure, some for fitness & some for sport.
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Re: cyclist or bike rider
Postby Mulger bill » Tue Oct 09, 2012 11:20 pm
Edited for clarity...DaveOZ wrote:People who sit in mobile loungerooms grasping a circular armrest are called motorists even though most of them clearly have no ability and no understanding of the equipment they are operating.
The ones with some skill and pride in their ability are called drivers
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Re: cyclist or bike rider
Postby Mulger bill » Tue Oct 09, 2012 11:23 pm
This!find_bruce wrote:Hi Fiona, one of the "features" of the interwebs is that misunderstandings sometimes arise in discussions. From what I know of Daveoz I don't think he meant to cause offence & I expect the same goes for the walrus.
Newby or not you are already as much a real cyclist as anyone else- all it takes is enjoying riding your bike.
Cheers & welcome outside
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Bruce, can I borrow your towel?
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Re: cyclist or bike rider
Postby RonK » Tue Oct 09, 2012 11:46 pm
Then there are those who never ride further than the corner shop, and only because walking there is just too much effort - you often see them with a helmet hanging on the bars instead of on their head. These are just people riding a bike.
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Re: cyclist or bike rider
Postby human909 » Wed Oct 10, 2012 1:18 am
I guess I'm just riding a bike then...RonK wrote:Then there are those who never ride further than the corner shop, and only because walking there is just too much effort - you often see them with a helmet hanging on the bars instead of on their head. These are just people riding a bike.
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Re: cyclist or bike rider
Postby Howzat » Wed Oct 10, 2012 7:06 am
People laugh, but man have you ever tried to clean white bar tape after a crash?RonK wrote:you often see them with a helmet hanging on the bars instead of on their head.
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Re: cyclist or bike rider
Postby greyhoundtom » Wed Oct 10, 2012 7:19 am
You are a cyclists cyclist when you:
Check out every bike you see, and take little or no notice of who is riding it unless it sports a set of deep dish CF wheels.
Feel this desperate urge to get out the chain lube whenever you see a rusty chain, and have to exert supreme control not to have go at the cyclist riding the poor mistreated bike.
Yell at any cyclist you see going through a red light, and call them all the idiots under the sun, but then defend them against all comers because they are a cyclist.
Check out your favourite cycling websites at least twice a day, particularly to see what bikes are for sale even though your partner has promised to kill you if you bring another bike home.
Have a pet name for at least you favourite bike, if not all of them.
When you are driving your car you check out every road to see if it would make a good cycling route.
While driving, run other cars off the road if you have to, just to make sure the cyclist you are about to pass has plenty of room, and/or slow down holding up the traffic in your lane just to make sure the cyclist in front of you gets to merge safely.
Do all of the above even though you have not been able to ride your own bike due to illness or injury for the past 6 months or more..........because you are a cyclist.
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Re: cyclist or bike rider
Postby The Walrus » Wed Oct 10, 2012 8:35 am
I just think things can be over analyzed when its often just simple. I also think that obsessive road bike riders can make the weekend casual ride feel intimidated.
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Re: cyclist or bike rider
Postby dampier » Wed Oct 10, 2012 12:23 pm
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Re: cyclist or bike rider
Postby Sharkey » Wed Oct 10, 2012 12:51 pm
You are a cyclist.
A bike rider is someone who rides less and/or slower than you.
Anybody who rides more / faster is a fanatic.
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Re: cyclist or bike rider
Postby Mulger bill » Wed Oct 10, 2012 1:00 pm
Loves it! Goodonyer Tomgreyhoundtom wrote:Everyone that rides a bike is a cyclist, but then being a cyclist is more of a state of mind, and some people are more “cyclists” than others.
You are a cyclists cyclist when you:
Check out every bike you see, and take little or no notice of who is riding it unless it sports a set of deep dish CF wheels.
Feel this desperate urge to get out the chain lube whenever you see a rusty chain, and have to exert supreme control not to have go at the cyclist riding the poor mistreated bike.
Yell at any cyclist you see going through a red light, and call them all the idiots under the sun, but then defend them against all comers because they are a cyclist.
Check out your favourite cycling websites at least twice a day, particularly to see what bikes are for sale even though your partner has promised to kill you if you bring another bike home.
Have a pet name for at least you favourite bike, if not all of them.
When you are driving your car you check out every road to see if it would make a good cycling route.
While driving, run other cars off the road if you have to, just to make sure the cyclist you are about to pass has plenty of room, and/or slow down holding up the traffic in your lane just to make sure the cyclist in front of you gets to merge safely.
Do all of the above even though you have not been able to ride your own bike due to illness or injury for the past 6 months or more..........because you are a cyclist.
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Re: cyclist or bike rider
Postby Wal42 » Wed Oct 10, 2012 8:48 pm
Don't even look at bikes with anything later that D/T shifting, couldn't care less about deep dish CF wheels.
But yep, I want to smack idiots who disobey road rules (normally blatantly) normally on later model stuff in their team gear or single speed (yes I do own a single speed), won't defend them for breaking the road rules & I get lumped in the same class even though I do obey road rules.
Drive the car? Maybe once a week to get the shopping or pick up fuel for my son's race car.
Feel the desperate urge to lube someone else's chain, isn't there laws about feeling up a stranger??? But yep, do feel like giving them a swift kick for neglecting their pride & joy.
Haven't ridden in 6 months? I couldn't do it, my head would explode, my daily bike riding keeps my head clear & me in that 'good space'.
I'm happy being a bike rider.
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Re: cyclist or bike rider
Postby Ken Ho » Thu Oct 11, 2012 2:33 pm
You are a cyclist when you start looking for hills to climb.
I do this, but in truth, I prefer to think of myself as a bloke who likes to ride bikes, a lot.
There are "The Rules", and the Velominati website has a trove of wonderful essays written by The Keepers, and others, notably Frank Strack, who is a poet. If you click on the links to The Articles, a random list is generated each time under the current one from recent and archived writings, so keep looking for more gems.
The Rules are a curious mixture of sage advice and piss-take, which are all food for thought, but should not be taken too seriously. I break em by having hairy legs and a mirror and use a Camelbak on long hot rides where there will be not enough water, but observe many too, as they do make sense. They are meant to be a guide to neophytes and to be meditated on.
Rule V, of course, is never to be broken.
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