How much do you like riding fixed?

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What's your experience of fixed

Love it, I'm converted and selling the gears
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6%
I really enjoy it but I'm keeping the gears as well
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75%
What a waste of money, got no idea what those hipsters see in it
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17%
It's the best way to keep up my track skills
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Re: How much do you like riding fixed?

Postby Mulger bill » Sun Oct 07, 2012 5:34 pm

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Mulger bill wrote:
RobertFrith wrote:I have one vintage fixed bike, freaks me out. SNIP ...and definitely no sharp corners that risk a pedal meeting the road :D


Gotta admit this is my biggest worry with my impending experiment with FG. All tips welcome...


Get a proper frame, ie a track frame with a higher BB, and run 165/170 cranks.
Pedal strike is overstated though.Just ride it and you will adjust.


I might just end up doing that if I enjoy the experience. For the moment, I'm happy to go down the tightwad path to enlightenment :wink:
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Re: How much do you like riding fixed?

Postby bychosis » Sun Oct 07, 2012 9:21 pm

Mulger bill wrote:I might just end up doing that if I enjoy the experience. For the moment, I'm happy to go down the tightwad path to enlightenment :wink:


I'm using that technique too. Test it with budget gear.

As for the pedal strike thing, scares me too, I think that before next ride I might put the pedals at bottom of stroke, and lean the bike over until they hit to see how far to take it while riding.
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Re: How much do you like riding fixed?

Postby HLC » Sun Oct 07, 2012 10:15 pm

Mulger bill wrote:
RobertFrith wrote:I have one vintage fixed bike, freaks me out. SNIP ...and definitely no sharp corners that risk a pedal meeting the road :D


Gotta admit this is my biggest worry with my impending experiment with FG. All tips welcome...


Toe overlap is a bigger issue if you are running a proper track frame rather than some pox conversion.
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Re: How much do you like riding fixed?

Postby BRLVR.v2 » Mon Oct 08, 2012 4:58 am

HLC wrote:
Mulger bill wrote:
RobertFrith wrote:I have one vintage fixed bike, freaks me out. SNIP ...and definitely no sharp corners that risk a pedal meeting the road :D


Gotta admit this is my biggest worry with my impending experiment with FG. All tips welcome...


Toe overlap is a bigger issue if you are running a proper track frame rather than some pox conversion.


True dat.
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Re: How much do you like riding fixed?

Postby AndrewBurns » Mon Oct 08, 2012 5:36 am

I'm still kinda worried about pedal strike with my bike but it's a track bike with 165mm cranks. I put the pedal down to the bottom of its stroke and leaned the bike over until it touched... I've never cranked a bike over that hard including my road bike on big descents or in races, I'm sure I'll be fine.
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Re: How much do you like riding fixed?

Postby tallywhacker » Mon Oct 08, 2012 2:25 pm

been riding fixed for the past 9 years but my knee has turned to mush (been told that 52 is too young for a replacement) so for the past year I've been alternating 3 weeks fixed and 1 week geared. Group rides are also geared now days, Kings Park was getting a bit too hard on the knees. Prefer riding fixed though.
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Re: How much do you like riding fixed?

Postby ldrcycles » Mon Oct 08, 2012 6:22 pm

tallywhacker wrote:been riding fixed for the past 9 years but my knee has turned to mush (been told that 52 is too young for a replacement)


What needs doing? My brother has had 3 knee reconstructions and he's not yet 30 (AFL player).
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Re: How much do you like riding fixed?

Postby tallywhacker » Tue Oct 09, 2012 10:56 am

ldrcycles wrote:
tallywhacker wrote:been riding fixed for the past 9 years but my knee has turned to mush (been told that 52 is too young for a replacement)


What needs doing? My brother has had 3 knee reconstructions and he's not yet 30 (AFL player).


total knee replacement. Given my age, the life span of the replacement joint and you generally can only replace the joint twice, when I get to 75-80 I'd be truely stuffed. Physio also told me not to do it if I wanted to continue skiing, knee replacement screws up your proprioception. Knee injuries are nasty, my son had 2 acl recons by the time he was 16 (soccer)
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Re: How much do you like riding fixed?

Postby ldrcycles » Tue Oct 09, 2012 11:25 am

:( , damn, no good. Both my brothers have done their acls, i'm hoping it doesn't happen to me too.
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Re: How much do you like riding fixed?

Postby Mulger bill » Wed Oct 10, 2012 9:54 pm

Mulger bill wrote:Tell yer in a week or so...

Well that was intense!

I flipped the rear today, bit of a pain getting the tension right and the wheel properly centred but good to go. Nothing too long or demanding as me head is full of snot.

Not easy getting into constantly moving toeclips after years of SPuDding it but it'll come natural over time.

You really gotta stay on top of yer game doing this, don't you? Forgot meself and attempted to coast a few times. Bad Idea! :oops:
I'm never ever going to try brakeless, by the end of 90" I could control speed reasonably well but I like to be able to stop hard whenever it's needful.

I doubt FG will ever be more than an enjoyable diversion for me but I now understand why the devotees rave, there is something hugely visceral about the whole experience :D

Now... Why was I finding it almost impossible to trackstand, even for a second or two. I'm good for anywhere up to 20s on a freewheeler. :(
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Re: How much do you like riding fixed?

Postby Oxford » Thu Oct 11, 2012 10:00 am

Mulger bill wrote:...

You really gotta stay on top of yer game doing this, don't you? Forgot meself and attempted to coast a few times. Bad Idea! :oops:

... there is something hugely visceral about the whole experience :D

...

LOL Yep no off with the fairies moments on a fixie.

It is an experience, until you've tried it, you really have no idea, its like being a single thing all working in concert.
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Re: How much do you like riding fixed?

Postby rustychisel » Thu Oct 11, 2012 11:35 pm

Mulger, here's a treatise I wrote for another forum...

Listen to Fixed, he's knows what he's talking about.

It's worth noting he isn't talking about very low gears, just reasonable gears to keep the spin going rather than always having to push hard and struggle to 'get on top of' your gear. for that reason something around 68~70in is considered an excellent gear by those who no longer have to manfully prove they can push an 85in on the roads.

If you want to ride a fixed gear bike then do it right from the start so you have a chance to 'like' it rather than do as so many seem to... build it, try it twice, then flip over to the freewheel side. There is no benefit, no compelling reason whatsoever to riding single speed freewheel.

some ideas
- ride it, love it. Begin in quiet area or backstreets and concentrate on being smooth. It is much better to have a smooth pedalling style than to be a masher. When you forget to pedal - there is no 'if' in this equation, it's a matter of when - a smooth pedal style will see you get a gentle push from the drivetrain to remind you rather than a violent 'thrown over the bars' action.

- use foot retention and brakes. They exist for a reason, use them. Riding in the city is greatly eased by being able to clip in / unclip with either foot and to 'prop' with either leg, you're only half a revolution away from a safe stop and can easily adjust pedal position. If you can't, learn and practise. Extended trackstanding is for egoists.

- begin easy, build to expert. Know what you and your bike is capable of before testing the limits... of... braking before the back wheel lifts, of steering before the fixed drivetrain pushes your front end into the turn... what sort of lean you can dial into a corner before you need to worry about pedal strike... of whether you can bunnyhop small obstacles at any speed... of whether you can scratch your arse whilst riding fixed... whether you can safely look over your shoulder without wobbling like a loon into the middle of the lane... what your comfortable cadence actually is... on the flat... what your theoretical maximum cadence is so you don't find out halfway down a hill that you're not in control...

- a note about cadence and being on top of your gear. Regardless of what you think, you're not as fast as you think, and any claims of 'I regularly hit 200rpm' should be treated with the scorn they deserve. Want to know more about cadence and gearing; I could write you a small book on the subject.

- if you're going to do any serious riding on a fixed gear you'll get caught with the wrong gear at some point, indeed there's a school of thought which suggests fixed gear bikes means always being in the wrong gear. I tell new riders to choose a gear which will allow them to get home the last 15 miles of a ride into a 20mph headwind.

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Re: How much do you like riding fixed?

Postby PeteV » Fri Oct 12, 2012 8:24 am

Wow, really well written. Kind of makes me want to give fixed another go instead of SS
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Re: How much do you like riding fixed?

Postby familyguy » Fri Oct 12, 2012 8:37 am

rustychisel wrote:If you want to ride a fixed gear bike then do it right from the start so you have a chance to 'like' it rather than do as so many seem to... build it, try it twice, then flip over to the freewheel side. There is no benefit, no compelling reason whatsoever to riding single speed freewheel.


Or, simply (perhaps mistakenly) buy a set of wheels with a fixed/fixed rear hub. Solve your freewheel issues in one fell swoop. I know you can use freewheels on fixed threads, but hey, purist, anti-kludge, etc.

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Re: How much do you like riding fixed?

Postby BRLVR.v2 » Fri Oct 12, 2012 10:54 am

PeteV wrote:Wow, really well written. Kind of makes me want to give fixed another go instead of SS


Do it!
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Re: How much do you like riding fixed?

Postby kreyziest » Fri Oct 12, 2012 1:23 pm

PeteV wrote:Wow, really well written. Kind of makes me want to give fixed another go instead of SS


fixed is fun... i'm 34 and i love it, either tat or i'm in denial :mrgreen:
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Re: How much do you like riding fixed?

Postby Mulger bill » Fri Oct 12, 2012 7:14 pm

BRLVR.v2 wrote:
PeteV wrote:Wow, really well written. Kind of makes me want to give fixed another go instead of SS


Do it!


Totally agree. :D

Thanks for a fabulous read Rusty, always more to learn.

No way I'm going back, the freewheel is redundant and quite likely will be removed. If the other side has a lock thread I might invest in a slightly larger cog but we'll see.
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Re: How much do you like riding fixed?

Postby BRLVR.v2 » Sat Oct 13, 2012 10:08 am

Mulger bill wrote:
No way I'm going back, the freewheel is redundant and quite likely will be removed. If the other side has a lock thread I might invest in a slightly larger cog but we'll see.


That's the spirit. Between my PM and RC's manifesto we've hooked you. :wink:
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Re: How much do you like riding fixed?

Postby Mulger bill » Sat Oct 13, 2012 7:26 pm

Damn right you did Dave and I owe you and some others a beer for it.

I think I've got it bad. Took her out before work to get something for me tucker. Not 300m from the front gate it started coming down by the tankful. Meh, keep going. Did what I had to do then took the long way home. Got home soaked to the skin with an ear loosening grin, had to take a shower and barely got to work on time. What a great day :D

Can I fit a quicklink to a FG chain for easy removal for cleaning?

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Re: How much do you like riding fixed?

Postby Oxford » Sat Oct 13, 2012 7:46 pm

Mulger bill wrote:...

Can I fit a quicklink to a FG chain for easy removal for cleaning?

...
Circlip link. I used BMX chains on the fixie. Never worried about cleaning them though, when they got close to being worn, threw them away and put on a new one.
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Re: How much do you like riding fixed?

Postby Mulger bill » Sat Oct 13, 2012 8:01 pm

Thanks Ox, dunno if the anal part of me could handle that sort of maintenance regime... :oops:
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Re: How much do you like riding fixed?

Postby BRLVR.v2 » Sat Oct 13, 2012 8:05 pm

Mulger bill wrote:Damn right you did Dave and I owe you and some others a beer for it.

I think I've got it bad. Took her out before work to get something for me tucker. Not 300m from the front gate it started coming down by the tankful. Meh, keep going. Did what I had to do then took the long way home. Got home soaked to the skin with an ear loosening grin, had to take a shower and barely got to work on time. What a great day :D

Can I fit a quicklink to a FG chain for easy removal for cleaning?

Shaun


Pic one or pic 2 in this shot?

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The first one is the standard for track chains I believe, the second I've only ever come across roadies. That said you'd assume it was ok as the pressure either forward or back is always going to be keeping it stretched and locked you would think.

As for the persisting, it's totally worth it, and i'm glad you did. Doing it with brakes is the most sensible option, and gives you the chance to trial legs only if you want with the bonus of brakes for declines and emergencies. As someone who came to fixed riding late it certainly was a big turn on for me, and still remains a hook or buzz that I can tune into , that normal road riding can't provide. The whole fixie fad seems to be fading a little with many of the scenesters opting for retro steel roadies and cyclocross nowadays. In the early days much wankery about the zen and connectedness to the bike were touted about and became cliched, but there is something about it that has it's dirty little pleasure and rewards for the converts. it takes a little time and persistence, but once the hook is in it's hard to shake. Over the last 5 years I've had a love hate thing with it and built and sold a few FG bikes, both track and conversion. it's no mistake that I've finally landed a bonafide Aussie built classic tracky that ticks all boxes, and I'm in love again.Just the simple pleasure of spending half an hour belting up and down my street this arvo on the Bundy is enough to keep me grinning for the rest of the day. Rustychisel is an old hand OG fixed rider who commutes fixed and has a sweet, sweet vintage frame with nice bits that would make you go ooh ,and aaah. His experience, advice and words on the subject of anything cycling, fixed or road are something I have come to value highly, and i enjoy my chats with him when we catch up. I hope that a few others will be inspired by his post and flip their wheels and have a crack at fixed. And yes Rusty I've been out re aquainting that group of muscles that only fixed riding uses and working on my "souplesse" and rolling circles. I must be getting stronger too as this bike came with a 49x16 drive train (80GI) that I thought would be too big, but I seem to be handling it just fine, even on the hills about my area, and keeping on top of it on descents(brakeless). certainly wouldn't commute on this gear but it's not as bad as I'd first feared. RC will surely tell me off for going brakeless, but that's his role as the senior and more mature gent that he is.
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Re: How much do you like riding fixed?

Postby BRLVR.v2 » Sat Oct 13, 2012 8:12 pm

rustychisel wrote: of whether you can scratch your arse whilst riding fixed...


This is easy, as is no hands riding, scratching the nose, adjusting the helmet or even taking a drink.... It's scratching my ankle as it rotates ceaselessly that does my head in. It's the one and only time I wish i could coast :?
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Re: How much do you like riding fixed?

Postby Mulger bill » Sun Oct 14, 2012 12:57 am

Yeah, the first one was the one I was thinking of, the circlip link as Ox mentioned, have to hunt one up.

I find I'm using the brakes less and less for speed control and I'm getting a smoother spin out of it which should in time translate to improvements when the derailleur bikes come out. Oddly enough, when I'm riding her, I don't worry about speed or distance, maybe because I haven't fitted a 'puter but I'm not actually caring either. Call me wayne kerr if you will but I'm getting a huge buzz out of the whole zen connectedness thing. :P I've always found with any bike that once in the zone we morph into a single entity but finding the zone quickly appears to be mandatory if pain is to be avoided.

Biggest issue so far is getting into the pedals, I ditched the supplied flats after the first ride and picked up a pair of VP 393 clip and strap from the LBS for $25 but flipping them over to get into the clips is horribly hit and (mostly) miss :oops: I don't want to put SPuDs on as they go against the whole casual jump on and go thing I want from this bike, more practice?
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Re: How much do you like riding fixed?

Postby BRLVR.v2 » Sun Oct 14, 2012 6:47 am

Mulger bill wrote: I don't want to put SPuDs on as they go against the whole casual jump on and go thing I want from this bike, more practice?

SPD's I'm afraid. You will enjoy it more anyway.
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