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Pro3race a very good tyre

Postby mikesbytes » Mon Oct 15, 2012 7:16 pm

I scored a stash of Pro3race tyres in the low $20's and since using them I haven't had a single flat

If you look in the flat tyre comp, you will see that I'm winnings, but those flats were all on other brands including tyres that supposedly have good puncture protection.
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Re: Pro3race a very good tyre

Postby gururug » Mon Oct 15, 2012 8:05 pm

Thanks for the heads up Mike. Flatted today so might be in the market in the near future :D

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Postby scirocco » Mon Oct 15, 2012 9:46 pm

The fact that there is even a discussion about Prorace 3s and flats should set your alarm bells ringing.

PR3s are a wonderful, wonderful handling and riding tyre but let's just say they are best kept for race day. :)

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Postby rustychisel » Mon Oct 15, 2012 9:52 pm

Don't feed the troll :wink:

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Postby mikesbytes » Mon Oct 15, 2012 10:25 pm

scirocco wrote:The fact that there is even a discussion about Prorace 3s and flats should set your alarm bells ringing.

PR3s are a wonderful, wonderful handling and riding tyre but let's just say they are best kept for race day. :)
That's exactly what I thought, I put some on my race bike and then I got some for my fixie, which I commute on and I haven't had a flat since. I find it surprising, but that's what happened.
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Postby toolonglegs » Tue Oct 16, 2012 12:16 am

My fav pneu as well... but they are getting hard to find. I have tried the 4's twice and I had loads of problems with them!.

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Postby twizzle » Tue Oct 16, 2012 12:04 pm

Mike - could your tyres be 'aged' by any chance? I have a Krylion I'm using on the front at the moment, it was sitting on a rim in the shed for a couple of years (maybe three), and it's been bullet proof since I started using it. I loved the Krylions when I was using them, but in general they were never as good as this one has been.

Also - Cell has the new Panaracer Race Type D's in stock at a bargain price ($<40). I only had 11 punctures until the start of Sept on the previous version of the tyre, once I ran out of stock I've had another eight punctures in six weeks. I'm hoping the Race D has the same qualities as the extreme duro.
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Postby jacks1071 » Tue Oct 16, 2012 3:04 pm

twizzle wrote:Mike - could your tyres be 'aged' by any chance?
I think you maybe onto something Twizzle - I've found Pro Race 3's to be puncture magnets, several guys in my club have used them and retired them prematurely due to constant punctures.
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Postby biker jk » Tue Oct 16, 2012 4:44 pm

jacks1071 wrote:
twizzle wrote:Mike - could your tyres be 'aged' by any chance?
I think you maybe onto something Twizzle - I've found Pro Race 3's to be puncture magnets, several guys in my club have used them and retired them prematurely due to constant punctures.
+1. Some guys I ride with regularly have Pro Race 3s and they seem to get frequent punctures. It's a race tyre not a training tyre.

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Postby mikesbytes » Tue Oct 16, 2012 10:04 pm

What's the definition of aging? I suspect they are old stock, as they have been replaced with Pro4race
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Postby twizzle » Wed Oct 17, 2012 11:33 am

mikesbytes wrote:What's the definition of aging? I suspect they are old stock, as they have been replaced with Pro4race
Anything which isn't referred to as a "green tyre", I guess. And it's probably dependant on how the rubber is cured. Back in the "'ol days", people supposedly mounted the tubs but left them for at least six months before using them if they wanted them to be durable.
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Re: Pro3race a very good tyre

Postby jcjordan » Wed Oct 17, 2012 1:28 pm

I am a big fan of aging.

Every tire I have every used always seems to be less puncture resilient and last longer if it has at least a year 'curing' before use.

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Postby Mulger bill » Wed Oct 17, 2012 11:17 pm

jcjordan wrote:I am a big fan of aging.

Every tire I have every used always seems to be less puncture resilient and last longer if it has at least a year 'curing' before use.

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Interesting...
Gotta theory on the whys of this?

I'd like to hear how it's done too if that's no problem.

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Re: Pro3race a very good tyre

Postby mikesbytes » Thu Oct 18, 2012 8:20 am

twizzle wrote:
mikesbytes wrote:What's the definition of aging? I suspect they are old stock, as they have been replaced with Pro4race
Anything which isn't referred to as a "green tyre", I guess. And it's probably dependant on how the rubber is cured. Back in the "'ol days", people supposedly mounted the tubs but left them for at least six months before using them if they wanted them to be durable.
It may also depend on the compounds. I'm guessing that aging was more relevant in days gone by
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Re: Pro3race a very good tyre

Postby twizzle » Thu Oct 18, 2012 9:20 am

Mulger bill wrote:
jcjordan wrote:I am a big fan of aging.

Every tire I have every used always seems to be less puncture resilient and last longer if it has at least a year 'curing' before use.

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Interesting...
Gotta theory on the whys of this?

I'd like to hear how it's done too if that's no problem.

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There was a good write up... unfortunately mainly as an obit., in Ride a few editions ago. Something along the lines of left under the bed for six months, then mounted and slowly inflated in stages over the next six months while still under the bed. Guy who wrote the article was saying that it still seems to work because he had some tyres that were crap (cuts) and he stopped buying them them... then about a year later ended up using a couple he had left over and they weren't crap any more.
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Re: Pro3race a very good tyre

Postby GreyhoundCycle » Fri Oct 19, 2012 12:03 am

Luck has been on your side. My Pro3 were fine for the first 1000km and starting to get punchers frequently. The cuts tend to be bigger and deep.

However, it is a race tyre after all. I wouldn't leave a negative review if being asked.

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Postby toolonglegs » Fri Oct 19, 2012 2:36 am

Yeah I wouldn't get much more than 1000kms out of mine... probably do about 8-10 races on them and then put them in a pile for the training bike ( that pile is pretty big though :roll: )... probably get close to double out of the front.
But it is a thin well priced race tire so I am not complaining.

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Postby jcjordan » Fri Oct 19, 2012 12:19 pm


Interesting...
Gotta theory on the whys of this?

I'd like to hear how it's done too if that's no problem.

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I have no scientific evidence for my belief other then personal experience.

I have quite a few write ups in various places which led me to try this.

One of the write ups mentioned that when rubber comes out of the factory it takes a while for some of the chemicals used in its production to evaporate off which hardens the rubber.


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Re: Pro3race a very good tyre

Postby Mulger bill » Fri Oct 19, 2012 9:29 pm

Thanks jcj, happy to listen to experience.

Might get another set of commuter tyres now and give them the treatment, better google "tyre aging"...

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Postby jasonc » Fri Oct 19, 2012 9:47 pm

Mulger bill wrote:Thanks jcj, happy to listen to experience.

Might get another set of commuter tyres now and give them the treatment, better google "tyre aging"...

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Postby MDL » Sat Oct 20, 2012 8:55 am

Don't know what people are riding over.......... Live in Toowoomba. Use the Pro 3's as a day to day tyre. In 15000k's (about 3 pairs) i have had 3 flats.

I have to say that you will get a cut here and there but not much else... and we don't have the best roads either.. Also i'm not a guy that cruise's around either they get a fair bit of a work out.

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Postby sogood » Sat Oct 20, 2012 9:56 am

Let's get scientific.

- New tyres (with thicker rubber) are less likely to puncture.
- Temporally there may have been a change in riding style.
- Temporally there may have been a change in routing.
- Temporally there may have been a change in council street sweep program.
- Temporally there may have been a personality change due to various work, interpersonal and personal factor.

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Postby jcjordan » Sat Oct 20, 2012 10:41 am

Mulger bill wrote:Thanks jcj, happy to listen to experience.

Might get another set of commuter tyres now and give them the treatment, better google "tyre aging"...

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Having a set of new tires ready and waiting is always a good thing in my opinion.

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Re: Pro3race a very good tyre

Postby mikesbytes » Mon Oct 29, 2012 10:44 am

Finally had a flat, but the rim tape was to blame.

Bizzare the lack of flats I'm having. It's making me think about buying a batch of them and storing them

Still available under $30 each http://pedallershub.com/search?keyword=pro+3+race
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Re: Pro3race a very good tyre

Postby Ross » Mon Oct 29, 2012 12:16 pm

Cell Bikes have them on special at the moment too

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