Cycle path manners
-
- Posts: 19
- Joined: Mon Aug 13, 2012 6:26 pm
- Location: Bayswater, WA
Cycle path manners
Postby Meesh » Wed Oct 17, 2012 11:58 am
I just wanted to say that although I'm not riding in a pack kitted out in matching lycra or riding the latest, snazziest bike, I have just as much right to ride to work as people (seems to be blokes mostly) who do ride in packs.
This morning I was cycling happily along up the hill towards Mt Lawley station (coming from Bayswater) and had moved out to the right to pass a jogger who was taking up quite a bit of the lane by jogging in the middle of it. As we were on a hill anyone coming up behind us would've easily been able to see us both and see what I was doing and be able to slow down until it was safe to pass. I was cycling slightly to the right of the middle of the path (nothing coming towards us) while I passed the jogger and then had three blokes in blue come up behind me ringing bells and telling me to move as people wanted to pass. Yeah, I get that, I was trying to pass the jogger.
Maybe my bike is a bit on the old and tatty side and rides like I'm riding through treacle but I like it. Perhaps it's not the coolest thing in the cycling world to have a basket but it quite handily holds my stuff. No, I'm not wearing lycra - I'm not riding in the Olympics. I don't hang out in the locker room or kitchen at work trying to impress people with my PB time.
I really enjoy my ride to work (usually) but rude people like the pack blokes that passed me this morning can take the shine off it a bit. Learn some effing manners and learn to share the bike path. If someone were driving a car and overtaking you would not then overtake the overtaker - or would you?? Have a bit of patience.
I completely stand by my out of breath utterance of "eff off, you tw*ts" as you passed me.
Cheers,
Meesh
-
- Posts: 1808
- Joined: Tue Sep 01, 2009 12:21 am
- Location: Perth, Western Australia
- Contact:
Re: Cycle path manners
Postby eldavo » Wed Oct 17, 2012 12:10 pm
Get used to it, or get frustrated =D
- zozza
- Posts: 4133
- Joined: Mon Mar 24, 2008 10:58 pm
Re: Cycle path manners
Postby zozza » Wed Oct 17, 2012 12:21 pm
-
- Posts: 1687
- Joined: Wed Aug 04, 2010 6:25 pm
Re: Cycle path manners
Postby Parker » Wed Oct 17, 2012 12:33 pm
That being said, I'd like to apologise for my behaviour yesterday, I shouldn't have been trying to break that Strava record... my bad
- blkmcs
- Posts: 977
- Joined: Mon Mar 02, 2009 2:44 pm
- Location: Bayswater, WA
Re: Cycle path manners
Postby blkmcs » Wed Oct 17, 2012 1:01 pm
- Tornado
- Posts: 479
- Joined: Mon Apr 12, 2010 11:25 am
- Location: Mandurah WA
Re: Cycle path manners
Postby Tornado » Wed Oct 17, 2012 2:49 pm
Aren't they?blkmcs wrote:who treat the PSPs as training tracks.
2015 Specialized Tarmac
2012 Avanti Giro3
-
- Posts: 2613
- Joined: Tue May 17, 2011 8:06 pm
- Location: Rivervale WA
Re: Cycle path manners
Postby moosterbounce » Wed Oct 17, 2012 3:52 pm
I think all cyclists are guilty of doing their best time at various times and can all be arrogant buggers - bike and attire are irrelevant.
Except me of course...and you
-
- Posts: 19
- Joined: Mon Aug 13, 2012 6:26 pm
- Location: Bayswater, WA
Re: Cycle path manners
Postby Meesh » Wed Oct 17, 2012 4:06 pm
I've only seen one person stopped by the side of the path so far and would've stopped to offer assistance but saw he was just messing with his ipod thing so continued on my panting way. Not sure I would be of much practical help to anyone with a puncture but always happy to offer moral support!
Cheers for listening to my little rant earlier. I will still love my ride to work and am looking forward to the ride home in this lovely weather!
Especially when I hit Bayswater train station and know it's not much further for me and my rusty old treacle bike to go!
-
- Posts: 114
- Joined: Sun Jan 23, 2011 4:17 pm
Re: Cycle path manners
Postby michaelp7757 » Wed Oct 17, 2012 4:46 pm
I always look over my shoulder for faster riders before overtaking a slower rider or pedestrian.
If a faster rider(s) are coming up behind me I slow down & let them overtake FIRST as this is by far the safest scenario for all parties.
When overtaking you are no longer holding a consistent line so checking for riders behind is common courtesy IMHO.
I do however agree that the reaction of these riders was unnecessary.
- Tornado
- Posts: 479
- Joined: Mon Apr 12, 2010 11:25 am
- Location: Mandurah WA
Re: Cycle path manners
Postby Tornado » Wed Oct 17, 2012 5:08 pm
2015 Specialized Tarmac
2012 Avanti Giro3
-
- Posts: 1808
- Joined: Tue Sep 01, 2009 12:21 am
- Location: Perth, Western Australia
- Contact:
Re: Cycle path manners
Postby eldavo » Wed Oct 17, 2012 7:34 pm
While providing joking support to Meesh for better manners, like you I do personally look back knowing and only overtake if it is safe behind, as well as ahead.
About manners, I try to stick to silence if I don't have anything positive to say, negotiate traffic safely and keep my observations to myself.
The group of mums, kids, and prams, congregating at the path intersection of Carine Open space having a social chit chat with no signs of coming or going, all seemed bewildered while I was near track standing with horn honking as they slowly realised yes you are all blocking the path, yes it is a chunky curb and sand and posts all around, and yes it is a mother dunkin' shared path intersection to a car park, grab a clue. I managed to keep the hulk inside though and waited for them to make some room and letting the psychotic thoughts of bloody mass murder pass quietly as I got rolling again.
Worlds of slow and fast will collide, but it is manners that keep society from falling into random violence.
-
- Posts: 19
- Joined: Mon Aug 13, 2012 6:26 pm
- Location: Bayswater, WA
Re: Cycle path manners
Postby Meesh » Wed Oct 17, 2012 7:57 pm
Totally agree.eldavo wrote: Worlds of slow and fast will collide, but it is manners that keep society from falling into random violence.
And yep, I picked up on your sarcasm earlier.
- Thoglette
- Posts: 6622
- Joined: Thu Feb 19, 2009 1:01 pm
Re: Cycle path manners
Postby Thoglette » Wed Oct 17, 2012 8:11 pm
Wel, if you rely on that I'll see you in emergency.michaelp7757 wrote:When overtaking you are no longer holding a consistent line so checking for riders behind is common courtesy IMHO.
It might be "courteous" but it's the responsibilty of the person behind to not rear end anyone (there's plenty of case law out there).
And a hand extended is as likely to be "I'm changing lanes" (as per road rules) as it's "pass me" (as per peleton etiquette).
Be very careful (and understanding)
"People are worthy of respect, ideas are not." Peter Ellerton, UQ
- Mulger bill
- Super Mod
- Posts: 29060
- Joined: Sun Sep 24, 2006 2:41 pm
- Location: Sunbury Vic
Re: Cycle path manners
Postby Mulger bill » Wed Oct 17, 2012 9:39 pm
London Boy 29/12/2011
-
- Posts: 462
- Joined: Sun Aug 08, 2010 4:06 pm
- Location: Perth. WA
Re: Cycle path manners
Postby orbeas » Wed Oct 17, 2012 9:48 pm
blinding other ridders is just stupid and dangerous !!
end rant:
Orbea Erandio Hybrid
- Sprocket
- Posts: 155
- Joined: Tue Oct 09, 2012 9:07 am
- Location: Perth, WA
Re: Cycle path manners
Postby Sprocket » Thu Oct 18, 2012 12:17 pm
The pedestrians have just as much right to be on the path and be passed with a decent berth, not by millimetres.
PSP doesn't stand for Particularly Selfish Peddlers!
-
- Posts: 524
- Joined: Thu Feb 12, 2009 5:45 pm
Re: Cycle path manners
Postby redned » Thu Oct 18, 2012 12:25 pm
- Lizzy
- Posts: 888
- Joined: Fri Mar 11, 2011 3:04 pm
- Location: Wild West
Re: Cycle path manners
Postby Lizzy » Thu Oct 18, 2012 12:42 pm
I experience this just about every day. Only difference is it no longer surprises me and I've come to expect and anticipate it. I think they take a big risk to expect the same of many pedestrians, though.Sprocket wrote:I had a very similar experience to Meesh today. There was a pedestrian in the same lane and an oncoming cyclist preventing me from getting around the pedestrian correctly. So I slowed down behind the pedestrian and passed at the first opportunity, ie once the oncoming cyclist was through. In the meantime I had seen three cyclists coming up behind me in the mirror so I was aware they were there. But I was very surprised when they screamed passed me as I was pulling in from overtaking the pedestrian - so they were well out in the oncoming lane - which is fine except there was a pedestrian coming the other way and frankly there wasn't enough room to pass safely. Especially not at the speeds they were doing.
- Sprocket
- Posts: 155
- Joined: Tue Oct 09, 2012 9:07 am
- Location: Perth, WA
Re: Cycle path manners
Postby Sprocket » Thu Oct 18, 2012 1:02 pm
-
- Posts: 19
- Joined: Mon Aug 13, 2012 6:26 pm
- Location: Bayswater, WA
Re: Cycle path manners
Postby Meesh » Thu Oct 18, 2012 1:13 pm
Had an absolutely glorious ride in this morning though! No wallies to be seen, beautiful sunshine, gorgeous flower scents all along the way - loved it!!
- Mrfenejeans
- Posts: 417
- Joined: Sun Jul 17, 2011 11:01 pm
- Location: Kingsley
Re: Cycle path manners
Postby Mrfenejeans » Thu Oct 18, 2012 1:39 pm
Doesn't matter where you are riding, if someone thinks they are bigger and/or stronger than you are they will take advantage of that fact, think growing a thicker skin for some may help or the HTFU approach.
I'm not advocating that the cyclists harrasing behaviour wasn't wrong, but at the end of the day some people are just w*#kers regardless of what they are riding/driving/
- tallywhacker
- Posts: 1775
- Joined: Thu Apr 12, 2007 3:21 pm
- Location: Perth
Re: Cycle path manners
Postby tallywhacker » Thu Oct 18, 2012 3:23 pm
- CycleSnail
- Posts: 559
- Joined: Thu Feb 26, 2009 1:23 pm
- Location: Bassendean, WA
- Contact:
Re: Cycle path manners
Postby CycleSnail » Thu Oct 18, 2012 4:43 pm
-
- Posts: 1
- Joined: Mon Feb 16, 2015 12:48 pm
Re: Cycle path manners
Postby quokkacol » Mon Feb 16, 2015 1:33 pm
I was happily riding behind another rider this morning along the freeway PSP, when he sat up and spat. Spray hit my face. This wasn't a pleasant experience. He was an experienced rider, as he signals when changing lane, signal when slowing down.
I know there isn't an standard as far as I can tell for telling fellow rider behind you that you are about to spit, so I rode beside him when safe to do so, and gently suggested that 'it would be good if he can spit a little lower.' Just a suggestion, not in any angry tone. I then rode off in front.
It would probably be another 7km before he overtook me and then shouted I shouldn't ride so close to him. Obviously defiant and not willing to consider what I was suggesting.
I admit I was about 3 m behind him when the spit happened. I felt I was at a safe drafting distance, and I continuously looked ahead so that I can see his signal and the road ahead and brake in timely manner.
However even if I was further back than that, when traveling at 34kph with some blowing wind, if he sat up to spit like he did, I'm pretty sure I would still have been spat on.
I don't know if he was unhappy I was drafting him (that's another topic), but this is a shared path and you just have to get used to people drafting, as long as they allow themselves enough time to brake and as long as the rider in front knows to signal which this guy seems to. So I don't know if he did it on purpose. I didn't think so, and that's why I decide to kindly made a suggestion to him.
I have seen other riders who are so considerate that they lean down to spit. Others change lane to the other side to spit. I personally swallow my spit as I think it's disgusting to spit in public. However, for those that do spit, do we think there should be some sort of signal (if there are riders behind) that allows trailing riders to pass to the right safely or increase the gap to avoid the flying phlegm?
I think the majority of riders are very considerate and with enough agreement in a common solution, everybody might end up adopting a standard that works?
Just a thought on etiquette.
-
- Posts: 242
- Joined: Mon Aug 02, 2010 12:28 pm
Re: Cycle path manners
Postby Karati » Mon Feb 16, 2015 6:29 pm
quokkacol wrote: I was happily riding behind another rider this morning along the freeway PSP, when he sat up and spat. Spray hit my face.
I think you are in the wrong here. If you snuck up and sat on and he didn't know you were there then it's pretty much just your bad luck.quokkacol wrote:I don't know if he was unhappy I was drafting him (that's another topic), but this is a shared path and you just have to get used to people drafting, as long as they allow themselves enough time to brake and as long as the rider in front knows to signal which this guy seems to.
It's happened a few times to me that someone gets on your wheel and doesn't say anything and when you do notice it scares the crap out of you. I don't mind people tagging on and having a bit of a race generally but at least say something when you get on.
Having said that common courtesy would say if your going to spit or snot rocket have a quick check around first.
- General Australian Cycling Topics
- Info / announcements
- Buying a bike / parts
- General Cycling Discussion
- The Bike Shed
- Cycling Health
- Cycling Safety and Advocacy
- Women's Cycling
- Bike & Gear Reviews
- Cycling Trade
- Stolen Bikes
- Bicycle FAQs
- The Market Place
- Member to Member Bike and Gear Sales
- Want to Buy, Group Buy, Swap
- My Bikes or Gear Elsewhere
- Serious Biking
- Audax / Randonneuring
- Retro biking
- Commuting
- MTB
- Recumbents
- Fixed Gear/ Single Speed
- Track
- Electric Bicycles
- Cyclocross and Gravel Grinding
- Dragsters / Lowriders / Cruisers
- Children's Bikes
- Cargo Bikes and Utility Cycling
- Road Racing
- Road Biking
- Training
- Time Trial
- Triathlon
- International and National Tours and Events
- Cycle Touring
- Touring Australia
- Touring Overseas
- Touring Bikes and Equipment
- Australia
- Western Australia
- New South Wales
- Queensland
- South Australia
- Victoria
- ACT
- Tasmania
- Northern Territory
- Country & Regional
Who is online
Users browsing this forum: No registered users
- All times are UTC+10:00
- Top
- Delete cookies
About the Australian Cycling Forums
The Australian Cycling Forums is a welcoming community where you can ask questions and talk about the type of bikes and cycling topics you like.
Bicycles Network Australia
Forum Information
Connect with BNA
This website uses affiliate links to retail platforms including ebay, amazon, proviz and ribble.