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Postby spewyewi » Tue Oct 23, 2012 9:24 am

Stuey wrote:Nice bike...but surely that's not a 56cm C-C seat tube? Looks more like 52 or even less.


yeah, i've been trying to tell him that, I think he's measuring it to the seat tube collar and not C-C, either that or his tape measure is f*cked..dunno...I tried to ride it about 4 years ago when he built it and it was way too little for me...
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Re: eBay prices on the rise, good time to sell old junk?

Postby frailer5 » Tue Oct 23, 2012 10:30 am

Suppose most here have seen the small green Europa (Columbus tubing) in Melb. But what struck me was the Ofmega Brevetto RD. Left field... :| Most definitely not slant parallelogram... (pre '84 or not...). :lol: I guess rarity becomes a collectors magnet, at some point.
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Re: eBay prices on the rise, good time to sell old junk?

Postby grantw » Tue Oct 23, 2012 10:47 am

frailer5 wrote:Suppose most here have seen the small green Europa (Columbus tubing) in Melb. But what struck me was the Ofmega Brevetto RD. Left field... :| Most definitely not slant parallelogram... (pre '84 or not...). :lol: I guess rarity becomes a collectors magnet, at some point.


Yep I posted a link to it on the Europa thread. That ofmega stuff looks pretty cool to me.

Here's a nice looking Raleigh Comp, just up the road from me as it happens http://cgi.ebay.com.au/ws/eBayISAPI.dll ... TQ:AU:1123
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Re: eBay prices on the rise, good time to sell old junk?

Postby cray- » Tue Oct 23, 2012 3:56 pm

$80 Ricardo Viva in Perth, maybe someone from the Ricardo Appreciation Society will be interested? Looks like a Tange 900/1000 sticker, can't pick the groupo.

http://www.gumtree.com.au/s-ad/nedlands ... 1008396703
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Re: eBay prices on the rise, good time to sell old junk?

Postby grantw » Tue Oct 23, 2012 4:04 pm

cray- wrote:$80 Ricardo Viva in Perth, maybe someone from the Ricardo Appreciation Society will be interested? Looks like a Tange 900/1000 sticker, can't pick the groupo.

http://www.gumtree.com.au/s-ad/nedlands ... 1008396703



The description is hilarious. Hand operated brakes ftw.
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Re: eBay prices on the rise, good time to sell old junk?

Postby ldrcycles » Tue Oct 23, 2012 4:19 pm

grantw wrote:
cray- wrote:$80 Ricardo Viva in Perth, maybe someone from the Ricardo Appreciation Society will be interested? Looks like a Tange 900/1000 sticker, can't pick the groupo.

http://www.gumtree.com.au/s-ad/nedlands ... 1008396703



The description is hilarious. Hand operated brakes ftw.


That and the gears on the vertical shaft between the handlebars and pedals hahaha!
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Re: eBay prices on the rise, good time to sell old junk?

Postby frailer5 » Tue Oct 23, 2012 4:44 pm

ldrcycles wrote:
grantw wrote:
cray- wrote:$80 Ricardo Viva in Perth, maybe someone from the Ricardo Appreciation Society will be interested? Looks like a Tange 900/1000 sticker, can't pick the groupo.

http://www.gumtree.com.au/s-ad/nedlands ... 1008396703



The description is hilarious. Hand operated brakes ftw.


That and the gears on the vertical shaft between the handlebars and pedals hahaha!


Probably what 'downtube' is in German, translated. :)
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Re: eBay prices on the rise, good time to sell old junk?

Postby cray- » Tue Oct 23, 2012 4:50 pm

Searching for a seat post for my junker train station Malvern Star and came across this:

http://www.ebay.com.au/itm/Campagnolo-2 ... 2a241bbfee

USD$219.95 (+shipping) for a seat post? What kind of people pay this money for an old alloy seat post?
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Re: eBay prices on the rise, good time to sell old junk?

Postby cray- » Tue Oct 23, 2012 5:04 pm

frailer5 wrote:Probably what 'downtube' is in German, translated. :)


English to German and back to English:

Ricardo Viva male push bike - blue and white. Padded curved down handle bars, reflectors on wheels and pedals, parcel rack over rear wheel, bell, hand operated brakes on curved handle bars, gears on vertical shaft between handle bars and pedals. White male seat. Drink bottle holder. Clip on forward light. In good condition.

Ricardo Viva männlichen pushbike - blau und weiß. Gepolsterte gebogen nach unten Lenker, Reflektoren an den Rädern und Pedalen, Paket Rack über dem Hinterrad, Glocke, Hand betätigten Bremsen auf gekrümmten Lenker, Zahnräder auf vertikaler Welle zwischen Lenker und Pedale. Weiß männlichen Raum. Trinken Flaschenhalter. Clip auf zukunftsweisende Licht. In gutem Zustand

Ricardo Viva male pushbike - blue and white. Padded curved down handlebars, reflectors on the wheels and pedals, rack package operated over the rear wheel, bell, hand brakes on curved handlebars, gear wheels on a vertical shaft between the handlebars and pedals. White male space. Drink bottle holder. Clip on forward-looking lighting. In good condition.
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Re: eBay prices on the rise, good time to sell old junk?

Postby grantw » Tue Oct 23, 2012 5:32 pm

So its germenglish, that explains everything.
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Re: eBay prices on the rise, good time to sell old junk?

Postby grantw » Tue Oct 23, 2012 5:35 pm

cray- wrote:Searching for a seat post for my junker train station Malvern Star and came across this:

http://www.ebay.com.au/itm/Campagnolo-2 ... 2a241bbfee

USD$219.95 (+shipping) for a seat post? What kind of people pay this money for an old alloy seat post?


I guess the kind of people who have 27.4mm seat tube inner diameters. That extra 2mm is worth a monkey or two
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Re: eBay prices on the rise, good time to sell old junk?

Postby grantw » Wed Oct 24, 2012 6:54 am

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Re: eBay prices on the rise, good time to sell old junk?

Postby morini » Wed Oct 24, 2012 8:16 am

frailer5 wrote:Suppose most here have seen the small green Europa (Columbus tubing) in Melb. But what struck me was the Ofmega Brevetto RD. Left field... :| Most definitely not slant parallelogram... (pre '84 or not...). :lol: I guess rarity becomes a collectors magnet, at some point.


It's one of their plastic jobbies. I think I've got a couple but they're prone to cracking.

http://velobase.com/CompImages/RDeraill ... 5432E.jpeg
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Re: eBay prices on the rise, good time to sell old junk?

Postby rkelsen » Wed Oct 24, 2012 9:00 am


At the current price ($0.99), it's not a bad deal. Wouldn't pay more than that though.
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Re: eBay prices on the rise, good time to sell old junk?

Postby frailer5 » Wed Oct 24, 2012 9:02 am

morini wrote:
frailer5 wrote:Suppose most here have seen the small green Europa (Columbus tubing) in Melb. But what struck me was the Ofmega Brevetto RD. Left field... :| Most definitely not slant parallelogram... (pre '84 or not...). :lol: I guess rarity becomes a collectors magnet, at some point.


It's one of their plastic jobbies. I think I've got a couple but they're prone to cracking.

http://velobase.com/CompImages/RDeraill ... 5432E.jpeg


Interesting. I think Simplex came unstuck in the early 60s by using some sort of 'super plastic'. I had such a simple thing on my bike, in the day... 4 speed? Can't remember... Treated it with kid gloves, rightly so, I think. But at least it got me up from the Longueville shore-front after an afternoon's racing on a 12 ft skiff. The tailing nor'-easter on the Artarmon ridge on the run home to North Sydney I still remember as bliss, though.

On another topic, can one of our burlier members here be given the address of the PITA who floods 'Road Bikes' with kiddie-bikes on fleabay? :x There is a Kids Bikes category, fer cryin' out loud. What could they be possibly thinking of gaining. But that's fleabay, I guess. :|
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Re: eBay prices on the rise, good time to sell old junk?

Postby frailer5 » Wed Oct 24, 2012 9:29 am

Still looking on behalf of my diminutive work colleague, on limited budget. Should this be steered clear of? That rust around the lugging looks a bit to serious, though I may be wrong. Link

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Re: eBay prices on the rise, good time to sell old junk?

Postby cray- » Wed Oct 24, 2012 10:26 am

grantw wrote:
cray- wrote:USD$219.95 (+shipping) for a seat post? What kind of people pay this money for an old alloy seat post?

I guess the kind of people who have 27.4mm seat tube inner diameters. That extra 2mm is worth a monkey or two

Is 27.4mm uncommon? There is a no-name jobbie going for $15. :P

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At the current price ($0.99), it's not a bad deal. Wouldn't pay more than that though.

If the seat post I linked above is worth $219.95 those cranks have got to be worth a couple $1000 easy right? Add the hubs, headset and other bits and bobs and I'm thinking I might cash in an take a year off work. WOOHOO! :lol:
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Re: eBay prices on the rise, good time to sell old junk?

Postby find_bruce » Wed Oct 24, 2012 10:34 am

I am looking for a similar bike & the rust on pretty much all of the lugs put me off. May be ok, but I dn't feel like taking the chance.

Besides anyone who claims "For a one time listing only,offered for a quick sale." and then lists it twice also sets off minor warnings
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Re: eBay prices on the rise, good time to sell old junk?

Postby grantw » Wed Oct 24, 2012 11:00 am

frailer5 wrote:Still looking on behalf of my diminutive work colleague, on limited budget. Should this be steered clear of? That rust around the lugging looks a bit to serious, though I may be wrong.


That fork looks a little bent to me in the non drive side photo, but it could just be the angle. In any case it's not really worth the buy it now price.
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Re: eBay prices on the rise, good time to sell old junk?

Postby familyguy » Wed Oct 24, 2012 11:49 am

Agree with above. Not worth $245. Maybe $145, and even then it needs close checking. The fork may be bent. You see the tiny corrosion patches between the shifters in this picture?

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Thats a typical spot that rust will start if its had a front-on shunt, cause it cracks the paintwork and clearcoat just enough for it to start. But there's no corresponding mark under the DT, so it's not definitive. Maybe it just had a spanner dropped on it there yonks ago, who knows?

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Re: eBay prices on the rise, good time to sell old junk?

Postby rkelsen » Wed Oct 24, 2012 11:51 am

cray- wrote:Is 27.4mm uncommon?

Yeah. It's a NOS Campagnolo GS. The kind of person who would need it wouldn't think twice about paying $220 for it.
cray- wrote:If the seat post I linked above is worth $219.95 those cranks have got to be worth a couple $1000 easy right?

Maybe not, but they are worth significantly more than the rest of the bike. They'd probably go for $100 to $150 on ebay on the right day.
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Re: eBay prices on the rise, good time to sell old junk?

Postby BRLVR.v2 » Wed Oct 24, 2012 2:13 pm

familyguy wrote:Agree with above. Not worth $245. Maybe $145, and even then it needs close checking. The fork may be bent. You see the tiny corrosion patches between the shifters in this picture?

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Thats a typical spot that rust will start if its had a front-on shunt, cause it cracks the paintwork and clearcoat just enough for it to start. But there's no corresponding mark under the DT, so it's not definitive. Maybe it just had a spanner dropped on it there yonks ago, who knows?

Jim


Note the black tape on top tube corresponds with the shifter rust. Whats under that tape, looks likeit fresher than everything else too?
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Re: eBay prices on the rise, good time to sell old junk?

Postby familyguy » Wed Oct 24, 2012 3:12 pm

BRLVR.v2 wrote:Note the black tape on top tube corresponds with the shifter rust. Whats under that tape, looks likeit fresher than everything else too?


Good call. It'd possibly be bent there too if it was in a stack.
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Re: eBay prices on the rise, good time to sell old junk?

Postby BRLVR.v2 » Wed Oct 24, 2012 3:37 pm

familyguy wrote:
BRLVR.v2 wrote:Note the black tape on top tube corresponds with the shifter rust. Whats under that tape, looks likeit fresher than everything else too?


Good call. It'd possibly be bent there too if it was in a stack.


Everything on that bike is old and faded, except for 2 pieces of shiny new looking electrical tape wrapped on odd spots of the frame for no good reason. Top Tube and RH seat stay at top ???? Rust around Head tube lug and fork is off putting as well, and It's a fugly Unicrown fork too.
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Re: eBay prices on the rise, good time to sell old junk?

Postby LG » Wed Oct 24, 2012 6:27 pm

The green bike in the centre of pic 4 in this bunch looks interesting - double fork crown, wing nuts on front wheel. Just have to buy a whole heap of rubbish to get it :? http://www.ebay.com.au/itm/Cycling-Bike ... 337d3b807f
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