Sydguy wrote:OP thank for posting - it is always good to be aware of these things. If it helps one BNA member then job done.
It is sade that people are not trust worthy, you do see people doing the right thing on eBay by drawing your attention to any flaws on the item for sale. However there are scumbags out there.
Hope everything works out for you. With new bikes being IMO reasonably priced I don't think I would ever get a 2nd hand one.
Cheers
JM
exactly... if it helps to alert anybody that had a good intention, then it's job done...
it's funny how the world have come to, when some people with some twisted logic thinks that it's the buyer's fault for getting ripped off! I did try to talk with the seller, but if you missed it, the seller tried to get me to accept, and when I point out the price difference based on second hand ebay value would've been at least $200+, never between our conversation did I suggest he was trying to scam me, nor did I mention I wanted any compensation, but he still got pretty abusive right away! In fact the conversation approximately went like this...
Me: "hi there, did you have the receipts of when you did the service last November as it turns out that the cassette is actually from an old model 5600 105 cassette, not Dura Ace"
Seller: "No receipt, it was done at bla bla bla, the cassette doesn't matter as a 105 will actually wear better and you've already got a massively great deal, be happy with the bike"
Me: "But the fact is there is a big price difference between a 105 cassette and dura ace cassette"
Seller: "bla bla bla (AT)#!#!(AT) abusive language stuff you, etc.etc."
so go figure!
Nobody in this world can have enough time to learn and research every little details about what they're buying, it's not like I'm buying a $30,000 car or $500,000 home, eventually you have to take risk and/or trust someone else's honestly, it's quite normal for someone that's just starting, not to immediately pick out differences in every parts of a bike... The onus is always on the seller to make sure they correctly advertise what they're selling, honest mistake is acceptable, but for the seller that owns 4 bikes, and owned this for 2+ years, not to know what he's selling? Yeah right...
And for those that reckon it was a good deal, I don't know how you came to that conclusion, because I've added the parts based on ebay listings, it's not worth much... everyone bidded on the auction that day based on the description of the item, I'm sure the other bidders wouldn't have thought that they will be supplied with a difference cassette and handlebar...
but I realised if I'm going to spend anymore time chasing this up, returning it, and look for another bike etc. it's going to waste me a lot of time which is better spent making more money...
but for those that thinks it's the buyer's problem when they get scammed, let me know when you're in the market to buy anything, I mean anything, like cars, computers, mobile phones, even concert tickets, or whatever, I'll sell it to you first, then you can ask questions later...