Brown snake on the Western Ring Road bike path
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Brown snake on the Western Ring Road bike path
Postby Bentnose » Thu Oct 25, 2012 7:47 am
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Re: Brown snake on the Western Ring Road bike path
Postby drcolossus1 » Fri Oct 26, 2012 8:55 pm
Ignorance is bliss! I didn't need to read this dammit
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Re: Brown snake on the Western Ring Road bike path
Postby Bentnose » Sat Oct 27, 2012 8:05 am
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Re: Brown snake on the Western Ring Road bike path
Postby warthog1 » Mon Oct 29, 2012 12:59 pm
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Re: Brown snake on the Western Ring Road bike path
Postby igstar » Tue Oct 30, 2012 10:38 am
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Re: Brown snake on the Western Ring Road bike path
Postby Bentnose » Tue Oct 30, 2012 12:41 pm
How are you meant to put it on, I heard the torquinette method is no longer used.igstar wrote:Spare tube is a handy thing to use for applying presure over the wound.
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Re: Brown snake on the Western Ring Road bike path
Postby Parker » Tue Oct 30, 2012 1:10 pm
See who wins?
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Re: Brown snake on the Western Ring Road bike path
Postby warthog1 » Tue Oct 30, 2012 11:04 pm
It is not for Australian snake envenomation. Pressure immobilisation bandage and minimise limb movement.Bentnose wrote:
How are you meant to put it on, I heard the torquinette method is no longer used.
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Re: Brown snake on the Western Ring Road bike path
Postby zakka101 » Wed Oct 31, 2012 9:59 am
im hating how they are upgrading the dalton road onramp, the detour is so annoying!
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Re: Brown snake on the Western Ring Road bike path
Postby Uncle Just » Wed Oct 31, 2012 8:43 pm
WarrenH on the touring forum was bitten by a eastern brown last week.We should start a thread and call it, "how many snake bites did you get this summer?"
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Re: Brown snake on the Western Ring Road bike path
Postby Bentnose » Fri Nov 02, 2012 8:00 am
Could you just tie the inner tube tightly around the wound, would it help a little? A little is better than death.warthog1 wrote:It is not for Australian snake envenomation. Pressure immobilisation bandage and minimise limb movement.Bentnose wrote:
How are you meant to put it on, I heard the torquinette method is no longer used.
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Re: Brown snake on the Western Ring Road bike path
Postby warthog1 » Sun Nov 04, 2012 2:20 pm
First Aid for Snake Bites:
Do NOT wash the area of the bite!
It is extremely important to retain traces of venom for use with venom identification kits!
Stop lymphatic spread - bandage firmly, splint and immobilise!
The "pressure-immobilisation" technique is currently recommended by the Australian Resuscitation Council, the Royal Australasian College of Surgeons and the Australian and New Zealand College of Anaesthetists.
The lymphatic system is responsible for systemic spread of most venoms. This can be reduced by the application of a firm bandage (as firm as you would put on a sprained ankle) over a folded pad placed over the bitten area. While firm, it should not be so tight that it stops blood flow to the limb or to congests the veins. Start bandaging directly over the bitten area, ensuing that the pressure over the bite is firm and even. If you have enough bandage you can extend towards more central parts of the body, to delay spread of any venom that has already started to move centrally. A pressure dressing should be applied even if the bite is on the victims trunk or torso.
Immobility is best attained by application of a splint or sling, using a bandage or whatever to hand to absolutely minimise all limb movement, reassurance and immobilisation (eg, putting the patient on a stretcher). Where possible, bring transportation to the patient (rather then vice versa). Don't allow the victim to walk or move a limb. Walking should be prevented.
The pressure-immobilisation approach is simple, safe and will not cause iatrogenic tissue damage (ie, from incision, injection, freezing or arterial torniquets - all of which are ineffective).
See the AVRU site for more details of bandaging techniques.
Bites to the head, neck, and back are a special problem - firm pressure should be applied locally if possible.
Removal of the bandage will be associated with rapid systemic spread. Hence ALWAYS wait until the patient is in a fully-equipped medical treatment area before bandage removal is attempted.
Do NOT cut or excise the area or apply an arterial torniquet! Both these measures are ineffective and may make the situation worse.
from http://www.anaesthesia.med.usyd.edu.au/ ... ebite.html
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Re: Brown snake on the Western Ring Road bike path
Postby Semar » Mon Nov 05, 2012 9:59 pm
Remember, people hardly ever die from snake bite in Australia.
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