Power meter usage, every ride?
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Power meter usage, every ride?
Postby Strawburger » Mon Nov 05, 2012 10:24 am
Hopefully a quick question. Do you track every ride you do with a power meter or only power specific rides?
Why I ask is I vary my rides (commute, training, racing) so I'm wondering if I should log everything or just specific training and racing rides? Does not tracking commutes throw out CTL significantly?
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Re: Power meter usage, every ride?
Postby ZepinAtor » Mon Nov 05, 2012 10:40 am
As far as I know your T.S.B (training stress balance), C.T.L (chronic training load--long term) & A.T.L (active training load--short term) are all effected to some degree by every ride you do.
If you don't track every ride the accuracy of your recovery periods would be thrown out as would everything else for that matter.
A good example would be if you had a tough TT session planned for the evening (say 5 x 10 min flat out) & you did a 50km commute on the same day your results could look quite poor or down on the norm.
If your 50km commute was taken into account your daily session would most probably be changed to 50km endurance & 2 x 10 min TT that evening.
Depends how serious you are about the whole thing really ?
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Re: Power meter usage, every ride?
Postby twizzle » Mon Nov 05, 2012 10:44 am
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Re: Power meter usage, every ride?
Postby Alex Simmons/RST » Mon Nov 05, 2012 10:53 am
Commuting is part of CTL.Strawburger wrote:Hi All,
Hopefully a quick question. Do you track every ride you do with a power meter or only power specific rides?
Why I ask is I vary my rides (commute, training, racing) so I'm wondering if I should log everything or just specific training and racing rides? Does not tracking commutes throw out CTL significantly?
cheers
SB
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Re: Power meter usage, every ride?
Postby Strawburger » Mon Nov 05, 2012 11:08 am
For people logging every ride, what solutions do they use for multiple bikes (ie road, tt & track)? Do they invest in multiple pm's? Eg. crank based for road/tt (easy swap) and hub based for track?
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Re: Power meter usage, every ride?
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Re: Power meter usage, every ride?
Postby twizzle » Mon Nov 05, 2012 1:08 pm
I have two PowerTaps one built into an open-pro (yuck!), one build into a Deep-V (heavy). jcjordan has a Power2Max crank, it takes him about ten minutes to swap it between bikes. Given that PT's aren't cheap any more (no base "Comp" model any more), a crank based might make more sense... but you still end up with a seperate "track" setup, and there's always the temptation to have spare setups to ensure you don't have any down time. I'm not sure about this "left crank only" power meter which is coming out shortly, most people favour one leg, and the %'age of difference probably changes between endurance / sprint / climbing. Rotor is bringing out 'dual' crank arms soon, looks nicely thought out.Strawburger wrote:Great! That confirms what I had thought. Thank you all for your help.
For people logging every ride, what solutions do they use for multiple bikes (ie road, tt & track)? Do they invest in multiple pm's? Eg. crank based for road/tt (easy swap) and hub based for track?
Thanks again
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Re: Power meter usage, every ride?
Postby ZepinAtor » Mon Nov 05, 2012 3:55 pm
Unfortunately yes.Strawburger wrote:
For people logging every ride, what solutions do they use for multiple bikes ?........ Do they invest in multiple pm's?
Otherwise you can play the swap the PT wheel from bike to bike game.
I was really looking forward to the release of the pedal based (Vector) system which is on hold indefinitely.
Although when looking at the Vector system it looked like the individual batteries/transmitters on each crank arm needed quite a bit of frame clearance + there wasn't any mention of an MTB style pedal. Which come to think of it would be interesting when crunching the occasional rock or log.
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Re: Power meter usage, every ride?
Postby ZepinAtor » Mon Nov 05, 2012 6:16 pm
I have no idea about this devise, but I have a friend who's interested.
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Re: Power meter usage, every ride?
Postby twizzle » Mon Nov 05, 2012 9:39 pm
Still shite.ZepinAtor wrote:Has anybody had any experience with the ibike Newton ?
I have no idea about this devise, but I have a friend who's interested.
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Re: Power meter usage, every ride?
Postby Ross » Tue Nov 06, 2012 7:45 pm
The Polar Look Keo pedals are available but are around $1700 and aren't ANT+ compatibleZepinAtor wrote:
I was really looking forward to the release of the pedal based (Vector) system which is on hold indefinitely.
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Re: Power meter usage, every ride?
Postby jcjordan » Tue Nov 06, 2012 9:31 pm
And based on every review I have seen so far is less reliable then their older system.Ross wrote:The Polar Look Keo pedals are available but are around $1700 and aren't ANT+ compatibleZepinAtor wrote:
I was really looking forward to the release of the pedal based (Vector) system which is on hold indefinitely.
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Re: Power meter usage, every ride?
Postby Strawburger » Thu Nov 08, 2012 9:16 pm
Polar is out (I'm decked out in ant+), haven't heard good things about the stageone, ibike is also not flash so may have to get a crank pm now (srm/quark/p2m) and wait for the vector sometime in the next 10 years
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Re: Power meter usage, every ride?
Postby toolonglegs » Thu Nov 08, 2012 9:26 pm
Although Strava has a habit of telling me if I am on plan as well. My 5 second power is genetic... all the rest 1,5,20 and hour power I can easily test on a climb or a loop and compare to when I know I was riding strong.
But then I seem to ride better on feel than looking at numbers.
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Re: Power meter usage, every ride?
Postby nickobec » Thu Nov 08, 2012 11:17 pm
Have Elite+ Powertap laced to mavic open pro rim as my training wheelset, ended up rebuilding it after 5 broken spokes, complete wheelset (front & rear) weights over 3kg.
So got a G3 PT and laced that to 50mm lightweight chinese carbon rim, depending if I use 60mm or 38mm matching front wheelset is close to 900m lighter for my racing wheelset. Having some issues with transmitting data, if the new firmware does not fix my powercap (not the whole wheel or hub) is off to Wisconsin.
2nd hand power meters from the UK (this is where I bought my Elite+ wheel from) : http://www.cyclepowermeters.com/used-ex ... -141-c.asp
And if you are after G3 PT hub, little over $1k from the US
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Re: Power meter usage, every ride?
Postby twizzle » Fri Nov 09, 2012 9:22 am
*sigh*nickobec wrote:So got a G3 PT...
I'm jealous.
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Re: Power meter usage, every ride?
Postby toolonglegs » Fri Nov 09, 2012 9:24 am
Why?... you make 360 w ish at ftp .twizzle wrote:*sigh*nickobec wrote:So got a G3 PT...
I'm jealous.
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Re: Power meter usage, every ride?
Postby twizzle » Fri Nov 09, 2012 11:49 am
My "comp" models are getting a little old. Pawls sticking in the freehubs, replacement freehubs only seem to come in alloy, not steel. The wiring harness is a bit fragile, the wires fatigue and die. The docking station suffers from the pins sticking... A G3 in 28 spoke with a carbon rim and a Garmin 800 are high on my wish list. Right after "lose another 9Kg".toolonglegs wrote:Why?... you make 360 w ish at ftp .twizzle wrote:*sigh*nickobec wrote:So got a G3 PT...
I'm jealous.
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Re: Power meter usage, every ride?
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Re: Power meter usage, every ride?
Postby toolonglegs » Sun Dec 30, 2012 11:08 pm
Cyclepowermeters.com have or are going to do ti freewheel bodies.twizzle wrote:My "comp" models are getting a little old. Pawls sticking in the freehubs, replacement freehubs only seem to come in alloy, not steel. The wiring harness is a bit fragile, the wires fatigue and die. The docking station suffers from the pins sticking... A G3 in 28 spoke with a carbon rim and a Garmin 800 are high on my wish list. Right after "lose another 9Kg".toolonglegs wrote:Why?... you make 360 w ish at ftp .twizzle wrote: *sigh*
I'm jealous.
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Re: Power meter usage, every ride?
Postby mikesbytes » Mon Dec 31, 2012 12:01 am
I do see you can get a crank set that can be used with one track ring or 2 road rings (AT) BCD144, which limits your small ring to ? 42
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Re: Power meter usage, every ride?
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Re: Power meter usage, every ride?
Postby clackers » Mon Dec 31, 2012 4:01 am
That makes up "power" numbers without the necessary sensors, Orbeas? I'm sure there is!orbeas wrote: im suprised their isnt an Iphone app for that or is their
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