Chinese carbon frame and wheels thread
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Re: Chinese carbon frame and wheels thread
Postby ldrcycles » Wed Nov 07, 2012 9:46 pm
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Re: Chinese carbon frame and wheels thread
Postby PerthNewbie » Wed Nov 07, 2012 10:03 pm
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Re: Chinese carbon frame and wheels thread
Postby AndrewBurns » Thu Nov 08, 2012 6:31 am
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Re: Chinese carbon frame and wheels thread
Postby bardygrub » Sun Nov 11, 2012 9:46 am
Has anyone purchased off these guys before? wholesalecarbonbikeparts.com
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Re: Chinese carbon frame and wheels thread
Postby Crawf » Mon Nov 12, 2012 10:38 am
Steer clear.bardygrub wrote:Hi All,
Has anyone purchased off these guys before? wholesalecarbonbikeparts.com
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Re: Chinese carbon frame and wheels thread
Postby bardygrub » Mon Nov 12, 2012 5:51 pm
Why is that?Crawf wrote:Steer clear.bardygrub wrote:Hi All,
Has anyone purchased off these guys before? wholesalecarbonbikeparts.com
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Re: Chinese carbon frame and wheels thread
Postby kirky92au » Mon Nov 12, 2012 8:04 pm
bardygrub wrote:Why is that?
Weight Weenies ThreadWeight Weenies wrote: Whether or not is is a scam is up to your judgement. I believe it is.
Here is my justification, outlined because apparently it's not clear enough for some:
1. There is no information about the business's actual, non-virtual address. All "open mould" sellers and manufacturers provide an actual, verifiable address on their sites. This one does not.
2. There is no actual contact information. No e-mail addresses, no phone numbers, no 'skype' or other chat methods. Nothing. Just a form that will send your information to somewhere unknown.
3. The legal information, available under this page, which in itself is mis-placed, is quite literally copied directly from another site. If you ever bothered to take a small moment, sir, to actually read the damn thing you'll note that it's incomplete and incoherent. Links do not exist where there should be links. The entire section on Ordering is taken from the famous Lorem Ipsum text. For those of you who have no idea what Lorem Ipsum is, here's a site for you.
4. If you click on the language/flag icons at the bottom, they only link to products and do not change the language of the text at all. In fact, if you really pay attention, it is coded so clicking on the Spanish flag would supposedly change it to the French site.
If you've ever dealt with any of the sellers that do open-mould type componentry, such as Archtek or Farsports or Hong-Fu, you'll find that the people behind the company do their best to overcome the language barrier. They know the difference between Spain and France. They provide legal info and some measure of accountability that this site clearly does not.
If you believe that 4 salient points are not enough to convince you not to make a purchase through that site at this time, then by all means go right ahead. No one is stopping you.
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Re: Chinese carbon frame and wheels thread
Postby bardygrub » Tue Nov 13, 2012 6:25 am
Cheerskirky92au wrote:bardygrub wrote:Why is that?Weight Weenies ThreadWeight Weenies wrote: Whether or not is is a scam is up to your judgement. I believe it is.
Here is my justification, outlined because apparently it's not clear enough for some:
1. There is no information about the business's actual, non-virtual address. All "open mould" sellers and manufacturers provide an actual, verifiable address on their sites. This one does not.
2. There is no actual contact information. No e-mail addresses, no phone numbers, no 'skype' or other chat methods. Nothing. Just a form that will send your information to somewhere unknown.
3. The legal information, available under this page, which in itself is mis-placed, is quite literally copied directly from another site. If you ever bothered to take a small moment, sir, to actually read the damn thing you'll note that it's incomplete and incoherent. Links do not exist where there should be links. The entire section on Ordering is taken from the famous Lorem Ipsum text. For those of you who have no idea what Lorem Ipsum is, here's a site for you.
4. If you click on the language/flag icons at the bottom, they only link to products and do not change the language of the text at all. In fact, if you really pay attention, it is coded so clicking on the Spanish flag would supposedly change it to the French site.
If you've ever dealt with any of the sellers that do open-mould type componentry, such as Archtek or Farsports or Hong-Fu, you'll find that the people behind the company do their best to overcome the language barrier. They know the difference between Spain and France. They provide legal info and some measure of accountability that this site clearly does not.
If you believe that 4 salient points are not enough to convince you not to make a purchase through that site at this time, then by all means go right ahead. No one is stopping you.
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Re: Chinese carbon frame and wheels thread
Postby roreybellows » Tue Nov 20, 2012 7:48 pm
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Re: Chinese carbon frame and wheels thread
Postby sambo3 » Wed Nov 21, 2012 8:49 pm
I delt directly with Smart and he has been excellent. Great communcation and he even send me pics once they were built before he sent them off.
I mucked him around for a week before biting the bullet with changes and he was alway quick to reply and kept me well informed.
I have just literally opened the box, packaging is excellent and I will re-use the bike box.
I ordered;
Rims Super light 700C 38mm clincher rim,
(20/24H,UD Matt,Basalt brake surface)
Hubs EDhubs black(ceramic bearings,Shimano)
Spokes Sapim Cx-ray,black
Nipples Sapim SILS external nipples,black
Total Weight 1280g+/-30g
skewer,black 1 set Free
Brake pads,blue 4 sets Free
Spare spokes 3 pcs Free
I will weigh them tomorrow and ride them for a few weeks before posting a report.
One note they came without rim tape. No biggie as I have ordered Veloplugs anyway.
These will be going on a new build so it will be a few weeks before I will report back
cheers
Sambo
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Re: Chinese carbon frame and wheels thread
Postby MarkG » Wed Nov 21, 2012 9:04 pm
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Re: Chinese carbon frame and wheels thread
Postby sambo3 » Wed Nov 21, 2012 9:16 pm
I have a pair of 2007 Edge/Enve 38mm clinchers that are a high standard to compare these to.
I dont expect the hubs to live up to the DTSwiss 240's on the edge/Enve but it will be interesting to see if they are as solid.
The Edge/Enve are my everyday wheel and just stay true and stiff, however the rear got slightly damaged in a crash so I am hoping to have these Farsports replace them on my second bike.
The Farsports win on weight they are bang on 1250grams without rim tape according to my kitchen scales.
The proof of how much value they are will be in the ride though.
If you are after a set deal with Smart as he has a good English command and is prompt with replies.
cheers
Sambo
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Re: Chinese carbon frame and wheels thread
Postby MarkG » Wed Nov 21, 2012 9:18 pm
Do you mind pm ing his addy to me?
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Re: Chinese carbon frame and wheels thread
Postby sambo3 » Wed Nov 21, 2012 9:23 pm
Cheers
Sambo
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Re: Chinese carbon frame and wheels thread
Postby Arlberg » Thu Nov 22, 2012 11:48 am
Please let us know how these Edhubs with ceramic bearings roll, and also how they compare with the DT Swiss 240s.sambo3 wrote:I dont expect the hubs to live up to the DTSwiss 240's on the edge/Enve but it will be interesting to see if they are as solid.cheers
Sambo
By the way you can now order Farsports wheels with the DT Swiss 240 hubs. They have also just brought out a newly designed clincher rim, called the 'Sunwheel'. Apparently it eliminates the possibility of heat failure due to a different design, construction and more basalt on the braking surfaces.
http://farsports.en.alibaba.com/product ... s_hub.html" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;
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Re: Chinese carbon frame and wheels thread
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Re: Chinese carbon frame and wheels thread
Postby cpical » Thu Nov 22, 2012 8:03 pm
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Re: Chinese carbon frame and wheels thread
Postby winstonw » Thu Nov 22, 2012 8:33 pm
death wobble is still not well understood. I recommend whenever you get a new set of wheels, test them carefully on descents before going full boar.
sambo, I am glad you had a good experience with Smart. I have dealt with him at length, and he's been very reliable and true to his word.
I am impressed with the deal you got with him - spare spokes etc. Have you spoken with him via phone yet? He's a real try hard.
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Re: Chinese carbon frame and wheels thread
Postby sambo3 » Thu Nov 22, 2012 9:23 pm
Arlberg it will be a few weeks before I post a review and will will provide a comaparions with the Edge/Dtswiss wheelset. I will shod them with the same rubber
and on the same bike. I just hope the front wheel feels as solid as the Edge does under me.
cheers
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Re: Chinese carbon frame and wheels thread
Postby kylefoo » Sat Nov 24, 2012 11:08 pm
the price and weight are both higher and heavier than M series, and can be placed by complete wheelset as well as the
single hub, should any interested in feel free to contact me.
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Re: Chinese carbon frame and wheels thread
Postby kylefoo » Sat Nov 24, 2012 11:30 pm
you are enable to contact with the sales you communicated before asking for replacement (free), which ony needs about 10US$ delivery cost
by EMS(as estimated). lol.....
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Re: Chinese carbon frame and wheels thread
Postby roreybellows » Wed Nov 28, 2012 7:55 pm
Took 6 days in total for shipping. 4 working days. Just so everyone knows, if you buy from FarSports.. put the tracking number you get in to the Auspost website or App and it'll give you a better idea of where they are when they hit Aus.
Pics to follow.
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Re: Chinese carbon frame and wheels thread
Postby glennoqld » Thu Nov 29, 2012 12:11 pm
Hi Kyle, with the new sun rims, is the only difference the high temperature breaking surface? or is the whole rim stronger (more layers etc)? Interested to know what else changed from the standard M series.kylefoo wrote:our Sun Wheels series have been launched, with DT240S hubs, Sapim CX ray spokes, High teperature durable rims.
the price and weight are both higher and heavier than M series, and can be placed by complete wheelset as well as the
single hub, should any interested in feel free to contact me.
Also on this site (below) you've got N,P,M,S series. Can you tell us a bit about how they are all different?
http://farsports.en.alibaba.com/product ... ncher.html" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;
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Re: Chinese carbon frame and wheels thread
Postby glennoqld » Thu Nov 29, 2012 12:13 pm
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Re: Chinese carbon frame and wheels thread
Postby nickobec » Thu Nov 29, 2012 2:32 pm
Bought a Microshift Arsis mini groupset (shifters, FD, RD) via Velobuild from YishuinBikekirky92au wrote:Has anyone bought a group set from one of these Chinese dealers, surely they aren't legitimate but how do they actually go?
I would add 105 quality (ie not the very best, but pretty decent), I am impressed by the action of the shifterscommonly quote about Arsis wrote:Durace weight at a 105 price
Have yet to use them in anger, decided to use them on my climbing bike which needs a few little things sorted.
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