Abused by jogger

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Abused by jogger

Postby TraceyG » Sun Nov 11, 2012 3:24 pm

Had a disappointing experience on our regular Sunday morning ride today when a jogger took it upon himself to yell abuse at each and every member of our group. He was on the road (country road), running on the correct side, coming towards us so we all made sure we gave him plenty of space but he told us all to get off the road, not to ride two abreast because we were holding up traffic (not a car in sight!) etc.

Most of our group is over 60 years old, some are over 70 and this morning there were only two of us under 50. We weren't going fast, this is a social ride, and we certainly weren't breaking any laws.

He got his comeuppance when we turned around for the return leg and he was on the opposite side of the road but decided to do his turnaround without so much as a glance up the road. He was confronted with a group of cyclists who were quick to remind him, quite politely in the circumstances, that he needed to look before crossing the road!

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Re: Abused by jogger

Postby birdbrain » Sun Nov 11, 2012 3:38 pm

Being abused comes with the territory of being a cyclist unfortunately. Just ignore them and enjoy your ride.
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Re: Abused by jogger

Postby jules21 » Sun Nov 11, 2012 4:11 pm

he was running on the road itself? these people just make up their own rules

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Re: Abused by jogger

Postby il padrone » Sun Nov 11, 2012 4:18 pm

Driving home from dropping off my daughter I was doing a right hand turn and had to give way....

to a jogger....

in the bike lane!

:roll:


Perfectly good footpaths around these streets by the way.
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Re: Abused by jogger

Postby Ross » Sun Nov 11, 2012 4:37 pm

Damn joggers about time they started paying rego

/sarcasm

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Re: Abused by jogger

Postby jasonc » Sun Nov 11, 2012 4:52 pm

Ross wrote:Damn joggers about time they started paying rego

/sarcasm


In QLD it's illegal to walk on the road when a footpath is available. I've complained to our local neighbourhood watch to no avail
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Re: Abused by jogger

Postby AJ_ » Sun Nov 11, 2012 6:49 pm

Ross wrote:Damn joggers about time they started paying rego

/sarcasm


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Re: Abused by jogger

Postby GregW » Sun Nov 11, 2012 6:53 pm

jasonc wrote:In QLD it's illegal to walk on the road when a footpath is available. I've complained to our local neighbourhood watch to no avail

Just as a point of interest and perhaps an understanding of the issue.......if you are a high km runner, then running on the road (where practical) is more preferable than a concrete footpath. Hard is hard but believe me there is a big difference.
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Re: Abused by jogger

Postby TraceyG » Sun Nov 11, 2012 7:01 pm

Clarification - country road - no footpath. He wasn't doing anything wrong (until he opened his mouth) and neither were we.

Fortunately that sort of behaviour is quite rare around this part of Victoria.

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Re: Abused by jogger

Postby il padrone » Sun Nov 11, 2012 8:21 pm

GregW wrote:if you are a high km runner, then running on the road (where practical) is more preferable than a concrete footpath.

Yeah, but also not legal, here in Victoria as well if there is a footpath present.
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Re: Abused by jogger

Postby jasonc » Sun Nov 11, 2012 9:27 pm

il padrone wrote:
GregW wrote:if you are a high km runner, then running on the road (where practical) is more preferable than a concrete footpath.

Yeah, but also not legal, here in Victoria as well if there is a footpath present.


agree it may be preferred, but if it's not legal, then as with MHL, if you don't like the law, get them changed.
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Re: Abused by jogger

Postby TraceyG » Sun Nov 11, 2012 9:51 pm

GregW wrote:Just as a point of interest and perhaps an understanding of the issue.......if you are a high km runner, then running on the road (where practical) is more preferable than a concrete footpath.


Not sure how that gives any understanding of the issue - he was abusive to other, equally legal, road users.

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Re: Abused by jogger

Postby Trackspecialist » Sun Nov 11, 2012 11:29 pm

I wouldn't prototype or blame certain groups of people (joggers, walkers, motorists, cyclists), it's simply the person's attitude.
While gently and slowly riding with my daughter, I was abused by 2 or 3 cyclists who took over me by commenting "cheater, doper, etc" because I was wearing my old blue US Postal jacket.

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Re: Abused by jogger

Postby GregW » Mon Nov 12, 2012 12:21 am

il padrone wrote: Yeah, but also not legal, here in Victoria as well if there is a footpath present.

jasonc wrote: agree it may be preferred, but if it's not legal, then as with MHL, if you don't like the law, get them changed.


You pair had better point out where I claimed or even hinted it was legal........I can't find where I wrote it.

TraceyG wrote: Not sure how that gives any understanding of the issue - he was abusive to other, equally legal, road users.


errr....try reading that as the issue of runners at times preferring to run on the road.
I am not condoning the runners abuse....my post was of an informative nature.

Try and mention something on these forums that may help in understanding other forms of travel or exercise is fraught with danger.
Too many of are prepared to read it as you would like it written so we can have a slap down or a good old session about downtrodden cyclists
I am a runner, cyclist and a motorist. I see good and bad in all.
As a cyclist ( legally.......based more on safety) can opt for road or bike lane then so at times a runner makes the same choice....for many reasons.....including safety.......the gist of my first post.
But I can understand that all members here have never run a red light,filtered illegally, ridden without lights at night ride with no bell, take their reflectors off the wheels.....shall I go on........so I guess it is fair to get upset about an odd runner they come across that may illegally use the road.
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Re: Abused by jogger

Postby Livetoride » Mon Nov 12, 2012 8:19 am

jules21 wrote:he was running on the road itself? these people just make up their own rules

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Re: Abused by jogger

Postby AUbicycles » Mon Nov 12, 2012 8:47 am

Trackspecialist wrote:I was abused by 2 or 3 cyclists who took over me by commenting "cheater, doper, etc" because I was wearing my old blue US Postal jacket.


They must have confused you for someone else, like anyone in BMC gear is mistaken for being Cadel.

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Re: Abused by jogger

Postby jasonc » Mon Nov 12, 2012 9:12 am

GregW wrote:
il padrone wrote: Yeah, but also not legal, here in Victoria as well if there is a footpath present.

jasonc wrote: agree it may be preferred, but if it's not legal, then as with MHL, if you don't like the law, get them changed.


You pair had better point out where I claimed or even hinted it was legal........I can't find where I wrote it.

TraceyG wrote: Not sure how that gives any understanding of the issue - he was abusive to other, equally legal, road users.


errr....try reading that as the issue of runners at times preferring to run on the road.
I am not condoning the runners abuse....my post was of an informative nature.


not once did i say you were doing something illegal. I was stating, as I state in the MHL thread, if the runners don't like the law, get it changed.
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Re: Abused by jogger

Postby richbee » Mon Nov 12, 2012 9:21 am

I've no problem with runners on the cycle paths, or on the roads. There's very little infrastructure for people who are trying to get/keep fit or train that it should be shared. Selfishly claiming our few inches of tarmac at the xpense of another equally vulnerable group is hardly taking the high road.
The jogger in the OP is just a git, you get them in cars, on the sidewalks, and even on bicycles.

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Re: Abused by jogger

Postby AndyTheMan » Mon Nov 12, 2012 9:35 am

richbee wrote:The jogger in the OP is just a git, you get them in cars, on the sidewalks, and even on bicycles.



...and on internet forums.... :D

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Re: Abused by jogger

Postby Aushiker » Mon Nov 12, 2012 11:56 am

richbee wrote:I've no problem with runners on the cycle paths, or on the roads. There's very little infrastructure for people who are trying to get/keep fit or train that it should be shared. Selfishly claiming our few inches of tarmac at the xpense of another equally vulnerable group is hardly taking the high road.
The jogger in the OP is just a git, you get them in cars, on the sidewalks, and even on bicycles.


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Re: Abused by jogger

Postby jules21 » Mon Nov 12, 2012 4:09 pm

i don't mind sharing the pavement with joggers, who i find are usually more aware than other pedestrians, but my pet hate is joggers coming towards me along on-road cycle lanes, who won't move over. what am i supposed to do? if there's room, i'll move onto the road - but that isn't always an option. with a higher closing speed resulting from their running towards me, there's often nowhere for me to go if i can't move into traffic - get the hell out of the way, for both of our sake's!

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Re: Abused by jogger

Postby ColinOldnCranky » Tue Nov 13, 2012 12:15 am

GregW wrote:
jasonc wrote:In QLD it's illegal to walk on the road when a footpath is available. I've complained to our local neighbourhood watch to no avail

Just as a point of interest and perhaps an understanding of the issue.......if you are a high km runner, then running on the road (where practical) is more preferable than a concrete footpath. Hard is hard but believe me there is a big difference.

And for serious runners those small variations in the surface will eventually cripple them or do in their back. Road is fine if, like for a good cyclist, attention never wanders.

About the original post, that jogger seems to have a bee in his bonnet and should, for his own safety, maintain proper focus on his own safety and the road in front of himself.
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Re: Abused by jogger

Postby munga » Tue Nov 13, 2012 4:27 pm

cyclist, motorist, jogger, !! BAN ME NOW FOR SWEARING !!. they're everywhere. keep calm and carry on.
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Re: Abused by jogger

Postby KonaCommuter » Tue Nov 13, 2012 6:16 pm

ColinOldnCranky wrote:
GregW wrote:
jasonc wrote:In QLD it's illegal to walk on the road when a footpath is available. I've complained to our local neighbourhood watch to no avail

Just as a point of interest and perhaps an understanding of the issue.......if you are a high km runner, then running on the road (where practical) is more preferable than a concrete footpath. Hard is hard but believe me there is a big difference.

And for serious runners those small variations in the surface will eventually cripple them or do in their back. Road is fine if, like for a good cyclist, attention never wanders.

About the original post, that jogger seems to have a bee in his bonnet and should, for his own safety, maintain proper focus on his own safety and the road in front of himself.




I'm sorry to sound slow but I'm not sure what you are saying about the difference between running on the road Vs footpath. I only ask because I've taken to jogging although the distance I jog aren't that great (circa 5km)
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Re: Abused by jogger

Postby Sprocket » Tue Nov 13, 2012 6:27 pm

Easier on your joints running on the road than the concrete surface most pavements are made of. Concrete is very hard! But at 5km you should be fine.

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