Fined for an empty bike carrier in Victoria??

Re: Fined for an empty bike carrier in Victoria??

Postby il padrone » Mon Nov 12, 2012 7:21 pm

gcouyant wrote:Just like indicating when exiting a roundabout. Here in Victoria it's not policed, hence ignored. Indeed I would go so far as to say that when you do indicate, it often confuses other drivers around you.

That rule is not policed because it is an 'optional' rule - to be done "if practicable"

Victorian Road Rules wrote:118 Giving a left change of direction signal when leaving a roundabout
(1) If practicable, a driver driving in a roundabout must give a left change of direction signal when leaving the roundabout
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Re: Fined for an empty bike carrier in Victoria??

Postby jasonc » Mon Nov 12, 2012 7:40 pm

il padrone wrote:
gcouyant wrote:Just like indicating when exiting a roundabout. Here in Victoria it's not policed, hence ignored. Indeed I would go so far as to say that when you do indicate, it often confuses other drivers around you.

That rule is not policed because it is an 'optional' rule - to be done "if practicable"

Victorian Road Rules wrote:118 Giving a left change of direction signal when leaving a roundabout
(1) If practicable, a driver driving in a roundabout must give a left change of direction signal when leaving the roundabout


I grew up in Melbourne, and now living in Brissy I really appreciate the indicate on exit rule. it just makes sense. You always exit the roundabout on your left. So why the hell not indicate that intention?
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Re: Fined for an empty bike carrier in Victoria??

Postby gcouyant » Mon Nov 12, 2012 9:23 pm

il padrone wrote:[That rule is not policed because it is an 'optional' rule - to be done "if practicable"

Victorian Road Rules wrote:118 Giving a left change of direction signal when leaving a roundabout
(1) If practicable, a driver driving in a roundabout must give a left change of direction signal when leaving the roundabout


Not that it's really exactly on topic but don't for a moment misinterpret If practicable as optional. The ruling is that you must indicate and it's a three point penalty if you don't (without valid reason). Road regulations are littered with the words If practicable and some are policed eagerly. It's like a hook turn in Melbourne CBD that has you turn right from the left (If practicable) and you'll be hammered if you don't. That's policed.
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Re: Fined for an empty bike carrier in Victoria??

Postby il padrone » Mon Nov 12, 2012 9:28 pm

jasonc wrote: living in Brissy I really appreciate the indicate on exit rule. it just makes sense. You always exit the roundabout on your left. So why the hell not indicate that intention?

In many little single-lane roundabouts in local streets, that have tight entry and exit, like this one that I have to drive through frequently, it is not practicable to signal and maintain safe control of your vehicle.

And there are plenty in the inner suburbs that are even tighter than this.
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