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Re: Spotted a special - Post it in here!

Postby nickl » Thu Nov 08, 2012 8:18 pm

Dimma wrote:Buy in bulk, the price for a single item or 1000x is very different.


If it were as simple as that someone would be buying 1000 Ultegra Di2 groupsets and selling them on Ebay for $1200 and be making a killing.
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Re: Spotted a special - Post it in here!

Postby boss » Thu Nov 08, 2012 8:38 pm

nickl wrote:
Dimma wrote:Buy in bulk, the price for a single item or 1000x is very different.


If it were as simple as that someone would be buying 1000 Ultegra Di2 groupsets and selling them on Ebay for $1200 and be making a killing.


I assume they'd be getting di2 for $800-1000.

Selling at $1200 is pretty poor return on investment after costs of doing business are factored. Even on eBay it costs to sell, somewhere around 10% of final value + 2.4% PayPal charge!

Not to mention how long it would take to move 1000 high end groupsets
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Re: Spotted a special - Post it in here!

Postby Dimma » Thu Nov 08, 2012 8:49 pm

nickl wrote:
Dimma wrote:Buy in bulk, the price for a single item or 1000x is very different.


If it were as simple as that someone would be buying 1000 Ultegra Di2 groupsets and selling them on Ebay for $1200 and be making a killing.


What a great idea, why don't you do it. Remember to keep one for yourself.
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Re: Spotted a special - Post it in here!

Postby jasonc » Thu Nov 08, 2012 8:51 pm

Dimma wrote:
nickl wrote:
Dimma wrote:Buy in bulk, the price for a single item or 1000x is very different.


If it were as simple as that someone would be buying 1000 Ultegra Di2 groupsets and selling them on Ebay for $1200 and be making a killing.


What a great idea, why don't you do it. Remember to keep one for yourself.


dimma - you don't need one, but you can get buy me one :D
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Re: Spotted a special - Post it in here!

Postby ozdavo » Thu Nov 08, 2012 11:27 pm

nickl wrote:
Dimma wrote:Buy in bulk, the price for a single item or 1000x is very different.


If it were as simple as that someone would be buying 1000 Ultegra Di2 groupsets and selling them on Ebay for $1200 and be making a killing.

if you have a spare million dollars sitting around, I doubt this is the best way to get a 20% return.
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Re: Spotted a special - Post it in here!

Postby nickl » Fri Nov 09, 2012 8:35 am

ozdavo wrote:
nickl wrote:
Dimma wrote:Buy in bulk, the price for a single item or 1000x is very different.


If it were as simple as that someone would be buying 1000 Ultegra Di2 groupsets and selling them on Ebay for $1200 and be making a killing.

if you have a spare million dollars sitting around, I doubt this is the best way to get a 20% return.


Exactly.

But when you think it though, this is pretty much what they are doing by selling the bike for $1995 - except in this case they need more than $1 million and the return is less than 20% (because of the other parts required to make the bike). Even in cases like supply on credit they must be sure they can get the parts for that price no matter how few orders they make.

Somehow they must be able to get smaller numbers (~100) of groupsets at this price ($800-$1000) - which makes me wonder how, and for what price exactly? Is it the kind of numbers it would make sense to put together a group-buy for?
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Re: Spotted a special - Post it in here!

Postby boss » Fri Nov 09, 2012 9:11 am

nickl wrote:
ozdavo wrote:
nickl wrote:If it were as simple as that someone would be buying 1000 Ultegra Di2 groupsets and selling them on Ebay for $1200 and be making a killing.

if you have a spare million dollars sitting around, I doubt this is the best way to get a 20% return.


Exactly.

But when you think it though, this is pretty much what they are doing by selling the bike for $1995 - except in this case they need more than $1 million and the return is less than 20% (because of the other parts required to make the bike). Even in cases like supply on credit they must be sure they can get the parts for that price no matter how few orders they make.

Somehow they must be able to get smaller numbers (~100) of groupsets at this price ($800-$1000) - which makes me wonder how, and for what price exactly? Is it the kind of numbers it would make sense to put together a group-buy for?


By the back of the envelope math being thrown around costs are at around $1450 and sale price is $2200.

I would suggest that the frame is around US100, wheelset US75, US75 on seat/bars/stem/tape/tyres/pedals, US800-1000 for group. Price comes in at US1000-1250. Manufacturer sells for US1500-US1800.

I'd argue it is the bike shop here that is taking the hit and slashing markup. It's actually quite a smart strategy for the following reasons:

[*]Their shipment is typically sold out and paid for before it even arrives.
[*]They would likely have 30, 60 or 90 day terms on their shipment. I.e. they don't have to pay for it until 30/60/90 days after the shipment has been shipped.

That would suggest they are making what is pretty much risk-less profit, and on top of that are earning interest on their revenue (not just profit) for up to 30/60/90 days.

So even if they are making 20%... well put it this way, if you could walk into a bank, promise to deposit $100,000 in 90 days and they'd give you $120,000 on the 91st day, you'd make the promise, right?

A shimano, or a shimano wholesaler would not entertain a group buy. It compromises their entire supply chain structure.
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Re: Spotted a special - Post it in here!

Postby just4tehhalibut » Sat Nov 10, 2012 3:50 am

Rose Versand has a 10% discount this weekend:
"Our shopping weekend
The year is almost over and we would like to thank all our customers for their loyalty. From today until and including Sunday, we will give you 10% off your purchase. Bikes are excluded from this offer."

Looks like this also applies to items not in stock like the new B&M IQ2 Luxos headlight that won't be available for 9 weeks. This is a German website and although you can play around with the currency displayed you should alter it to 'Euros' for checkout as it can get buggy otherwise. They used to have other problems with 'verified by visa' but I think that's fixed (at least it is for me after lots of emails earlier this year). 19% VAT is included in the price of most goods (lower VAT applies on energy bars and nutrition) and this VAT keeps being displayed right through checkout even though you'll have your location set as Australia and don't have to pay VAT, it doesn't come off until they process the order and send an email for the total without VAT. I'm after the headlight and some high range Ortlieb gear so lucky me. Just check their shipping charges, can get tricky.
http://www.roseversand.com

Edit: and don't add their 'free' catalogue at checkout unless you've a bulky order already, you might be adding 12 Euros to the postage.
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Re: Spotted a special - Post it in here!

Postby Jonno » Sun Nov 11, 2012 3:15 am

CRC have a few vouchers:
COLD50: $51 off +$365 (13.97%)
COLD250: $42 off +$300 (14%)
COLD20: $25 off +$200 (12.5%)
--Valid till Nov 13.

With the COLD250 voucher I grabbed this to add to a build:
FSA K-Force Light BB30 Double 10sp Chainset for ~AU$223 :)
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16g Threaded CO2 Canisters - 99c again (AT) Cell Bikes

Postby mattwilkinson » Sun Nov 11, 2012 8:55 pm

CO2's are now 99c again at Cell Bikes. Good for anyone who's sick of hand pumping up there flat tyres, These do it in like 2 seconds.

http://www.cellbikes.com.au/Specials/48-Hour-Specials
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Re: Spotted a special - Post it in here!

Postby familyguy » Mon Nov 12, 2012 8:36 am

Just got the T7 email...Topeak Joe Blow floor pumps on sale, up to 50% off.

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Postby Philipthelam » Mon Nov 12, 2012 12:16 pm

familyguy wrote:Just got the T7 email...Topeak Joe Blow floor pumps on sale, up to 50% off.

Jim


and they're having a big sale on everything as well! :)
good timing as I needed to buy some stuff.
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Re: Spotted a special - Post it in here!

Postby antipodean » Mon Nov 12, 2012 4:51 pm

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Re: Spotted a special - Post it in here!

Postby Sven Nijs » Mon Nov 12, 2012 8:10 pm

familyguy wrote:Just got the T7 email...Topeak Joe Blow floor pumps on sale, up to 50% off.
Jim

Tempted by the rollers http://www.torpedo7.com.au/products/T7T ... er-trainer but have a sneaking suspicion I've read on here they've previously been as low as $99 +postage :?:
It's a bit warmer here than Scotland isn't it!
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Re: Spotted a special - Post it in here!

Postby Mingjiemj2012 » Mon Nov 12, 2012 9:35 pm

surpirse with this deal ( carbon bike with shimano ultegra 6700 (AT) 1399aud?)

http://www.torpedo7.com.au/products/KDB ... -road-bike
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Re: Spotted a special - Post it in here!

Postby nickdos » Tue Nov 13, 2012 9:05 am

Mingjiemj2012 wrote:surpirse with this deal ( carbon bike with shimano ultegra 6700 (AT) 1399aud?)

http://www.torpedo7.com.au/products/KDB ... -road-bike


There are a few odd component choices though, standard cranks (would expect compact at this price point) coupled to 12-25 cassette. Also, only has alloy seatpost, where their other cheaper road bikes (e.g. KHS Flite 720) have carbon. And they only have small sizes left: 49 cm & 52 cm.
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Re: Spotted a special - Post it in here!

Postby moreegolfer » Tue Nov 13, 2012 1:54 pm

dominicj wrote:CyclingExpress.com have a bunch of stuff cheap at the moment and there is still an extra 10% off with the code 10%OFF until midnight tonight (Monday 5th November).

Conti GP4000s $39.95 - 10% = $35.95

Cheapest I've ever bought them...

I just wish I could afford the Forza Di2 for under $2200 after 10% off. :|

Speedplay Cromoly pedals $130 delivered from CE. I have made the switch from SPD-SL finally and my little brother gets into some Shimano pedals as a result (instead of the toe straps he's been using).
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Re: Spotted a special - Post it in here!

Postby Dan » Wed Nov 14, 2012 9:49 am

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Re: Spotted a special - Post it in here!

Postby AUbicycles » Wed Nov 14, 2012 1:49 pm

PBK have £10 off orders of £100 or more with the code: UKNOV10 until 31.11.2012
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Re: Spotted a special - Post it in here!

Postby Crowz » Thu Nov 15, 2012 12:12 am

Any codes for Wiggle going around at the moment?
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Re: Spotted a special - Post it in here!

Postby Dan » Thu Nov 15, 2012 1:42 am

Crowz wrote:Any codes for Wiggle going around at the moment?


I don't know of any - spend more and you'll get free shipping, though :)

study break over - back to it!
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Re: Spotted a special - Post it in here!

Postby Crowz » Thu Nov 15, 2012 8:21 am

Dan wrote:
Crowz wrote:Any codes for Wiggle going around at the moment?


I don't know of any - spend more and you'll get free shipping, though :)

study break over - back to it!


Free shipping was about $100 ago :(
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Re: Spotted a special - Post it in here!

Postby jasonc » Thu Nov 15, 2012 8:39 am

Crowz wrote:
Dan wrote:
Crowz wrote:Any codes for Wiggle going around at the moment?


I don't know of any - spend more and you'll get free shipping, though :)

study break over - back to it!


Free shipping was about $100 ago :(


try the same lot at PBK - they have a few vouchers at the moment, i think
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Re: Spotted a special - Post it in here!

Postby AUbicycles » Thu Nov 15, 2012 9:03 am

Evans Cycles:
15% off Clothing Parts Accessories with £75 minimum spend 15CPA75

20% off Clothing Parts Accessories with £120 minimum spend 20CPA120

From 14.11 - TBC
excludes a number of brands in the T&C.
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