The Dumb Cyclists and Pedestrians thread...

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Re: The Dumb Cyclists and Pedestrians thread...

Postby ColinOldnCranky » Sun Nov 18, 2012 9:21 am

ldrcycles wrote:The thing that really bothers me about bunches is when you call out "car back" and no one moves, they just keep riding wherever they want, sometimes 3 or 4 wide. Come on it's just about being polite. You can bet they would be the first to arc up if they get shaved or beeped.

In the cases I am referring to my comments are not about what appear to be organised group rides. They, as always, have more difficulty in adjusting the speed of the bunch and of passing and I live with that all year round. And there is mostly a decent margin between me and them.

I see it more with single riders or more riders who somehow have become a bunch at that point in time but who are either unwilling to moderate speed for a moment or are just riding lazy.
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Re: The Dumb Cyclists and Pedestrians thread...

Postby Kenzo » Sun Nov 18, 2012 11:55 am

Which reminds me.. The 'dinger' on my bell broke last week... Need to replace the bell now.
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Re: The Dumb Cyclists and Pedestrians thread...

Postby jules21 » Sun Nov 18, 2012 2:34 pm

i must get a gong for my effort on Fri. riding home through the CBD, i attempted to filter (slowly) through stationary traffic, but clipped a tram safety rail and fell against a car, ending up in front of it. thankfully, the driver decided not to finish the job for me. i couldn't figure out why i'd made such a stupid error, but realised about 1/2 way home that i was utterly exhausted and slowed to a near crawl.
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Re: The Dumb Cyclists and Pedestrians thread...

Postby DavidS » Sun Nov 18, 2012 10:51 pm

Daus wrote:Its silly season again, the weather is fine the sun is up and the road warriors are out in force- fine weather cyclists. I am just an aging commuter and can be found meandering along on a 40 year old steel bike or when the wind is up on my 20 yr old apollo (better gearing)and if it rains my newish giant MTB, however the speed difference between me and the would be racers during the morning commute is considerable and surely you realise as the bunch closes up from behind that I am blissfully unaware that you are behind me and yet you are about to pass on you carbon toys within mm's of my right shoulder risking some very expensive damage to your toys.
I know you don't want to burden your bike with a bell- it would have a huge performance impact on you ultra light racer with the extra weight and I won't even mention the effect on the aerodynamics- but what about yelling out something like "PASSING" so that I can be made aware of your and your teams presence and then I will attempt to maintain a straight course so you can all pass safely and and while you are at it be aware that some of us don't and never have ridden in a bunch and the very close proximity to other riders is unnerving to say the least. So to all you would be racers please try to show a little courtesy to other road users and remember the carbon you save may be your own. On a plus side however you all look the part in your team kit and I understand how someone dressed in faded cotton drill shorts and sleevless cotton t is not worthy of any consideration.
I will be looking forward to the return of the inclement weather so you can all return to your indoor trainers for the duration and maybe on day I will catch up at the coffee shop and point out the error of your ways.
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I know what you mean. I commute down Beach Rd in Melbourne and on those days in winter when there is a howling gale and the rain is threatening I wonder where my comrades on their carbon fibre road bikes have gone ;)

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Re: The Dumb Cyclists and Pedestrians thread...

Postby VRE » Mon Nov 19, 2012 6:36 am

DavidS wrote:
Daus wrote:Its silly season again, the weather is fine the sun is up and the road warriors are out in force- fine weather cyclists. I am just an aging commuter and can be found meandering along on a 40 year old steel bike or when the wind is up on my 20 yr old apollo (better gearing)and if it rains my newish giant MTB, however the speed difference between me and the would be racers during the morning commute is considerable and surely you realise as the bunch closes up from behind that I am blissfully unaware that you are behind me and yet you are about to pass on you carbon toys within mm's of my right shoulder risking some very expensive damage to your toys.
I know you don't want to burden your bike with a bell- it would have a huge performance impact on you ultra light racer with the extra weight and I won't even mention the effect on the aerodynamics- but what about yelling out something like "PASSING" so that I can be made aware of your and your teams presence and then I will attempt to maintain a straight course so you can all pass safely and and while you are at it be aware that some of us don't and never have ridden in a bunch and the very close proximity to other riders is unnerving to say the least. So to all you would be racers please try to show a little courtesy to other road users and remember the carbon you save may be your own. On a plus side however you all look the part in your team kit and I understand how someone dressed in faded cotton drill shorts and sleevless cotton t is not worthy of any consideration.
I will be looking forward to the return of the inclement weather so you can all return to your indoor trainers for the duration and maybe on day I will catch up at the coffee shop and point out the error of your ways.
Thanks for the moments- Don

I know what you mean. I commute down Beach Rd in Melbourne and on those days in winter when there is a howling gale and the rain is threatening I wonder where my comrades on their carbon fibre road bikes have gone ;)DS

+1. This just demonstrates that numpties ride all types of bike. I'm not sure where this aversion to bells comes from, particularly since the police are justified in booking you for not having either a bell or horn on your bike. Today's bells weigh about 20g. I also ride all year, regardless of the weather, and the main drawback of this time of year is the fair-weather riders some of whom haven't learned basic courtesy.
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Re: The Dumb Cyclists and Pedestrians thread...

Postby kirky92au » Mon Nov 19, 2012 8:19 am

Was riding yesterday, I go into the middle lane here (Streetview), as before there the left lane is obstructed by cars/ bus stops also the left hand lane also ends 100m past the traffic lights as well. The speed limit threw this area is 50km/hr. Some guy in a 4wd pulls up behind me and starts having a go at me for being in the lane, but what got me was when he said this "I'm a cyclist to, and your giving all of us a bad name".
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Re: The Dumb Cyclists and Pedestrians thread...

Postby Undertow » Mon Nov 19, 2012 11:09 am

kirky92au wrote:Was riding yesterday, I go into the middle lane here (Streetview), as before there the left lane is obstructed by cars/ bus stops also the left hand lane also ends 100m past the traffic lights as well. The speed limit threw this area is 50km/hr. Some guy in a 4wd pulls up behind me and starts having a go at me for being in the lane, but what got me was when he said this "I'm a cyclist to, and your giving all of us a bad name".


You should have replied with "I'm also a motorist, and you're giving us a bad name"
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Re: The Dumb Cyclists and Pedestrians thread...

Postby jules21 » Mon Nov 19, 2012 11:13 am

how about (in your best evangelical preacher voice) "if taking the lane is wrong, i don't wanna be right!"
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Re: The Dumb Cyclists and Pedestrians thread...

Postby Kenzo » Mon Nov 19, 2012 11:16 am

kirky92au wrote:Was riding yesterday, I go into the middle lane here (Streetview), as before there the left lane is obstructed by cars/ bus stops also the left hand lane also ends 100m past the traffic lights as well. The speed limit threw this area is 50km/hr. Some guy in a 4wd pulls up behind me and starts having a go at me for being in the lane, but what got me was when he said this "I'm a cyclist to, and your giving all of us a bad name".

Would have been funny to say, "I'm a 4WDer and YOU are giving all of US a bad name!"

EDIT: Sheeez - two replies before I got in... I'm slowing...
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Re: The Dumb Cyclists and Pedestrians thread...

Postby the grid » Mon Nov 19, 2012 5:44 pm

Guy bare-chested on Masi fixie ( you know those gold anodised rims and hubs) with GoPro on helmet abusing the guy behind me waiting at lights because he was using his phone. Then as traffic starts he starts the hand signals at him as well.
Pretty stupid as the 4WD the guy was driving would have terminated him. I guess he was trying to provoke some good video footage to post here.
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Re: The Dumb Cyclists and Pedestrians thread...

Postby crazyjose » Tue Nov 20, 2012 11:30 am

Airzound totally inappropriate for share paths imo. Pedestrians have general priority, and you are required to stop to avoid a collision, which means your bike should in-hand speedwise on approach to any pedestrians. You should not be using a 100 decibel device to move people out of your way.[/quote]


only from a distance, not directly behind them, that would be mean and totaly inappropriate, I would hate one of the dear old walkers to have a fit or something, mind you it would be a little considerate of them to have their wayward dog on a leash or not bunch up and hog the path when they see you approaching them too.

Airzounds also have a volume knob so the loudness can be varied as well...
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Re: The Dumb Cyclists and Pedestrians thread...

Postby wellington_street » Tue Nov 20, 2012 11:44 am

Just one of many dumb cyclists I see every day. This mornings episode involved a young lady who was riding in low speed traffic in primary position in the lane (all fantastic thus far). Reach a red light, decides she doesn't want to wait in the queue so rides up the wrong side of the road to reach the front of the queue (only past about 3 vehicles, mind you, so hardly worth it). Manages to avoid anyone turning out of the side street via pure luck.

Then, once at the stop line, decides that she doesn't want to wait for the green signal so instead starts to ride slowly through the intersection into the RIGHT LANE of all places. Two vehicles come out of the side street on their green light and nearly clean the idiot up so she sheepishly swerves out of the way then stops in the middle of the intersection until it goes green for the line of traffic she was originally in.

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Re: The Dumb Cyclists and Pedestrians thread...

Postby nuttzo32 » Tue Nov 20, 2012 11:15 pm

Riding on my commute to work and there is a section of road (mirrabooka ave northern end for people in perth) where for some reason despite there being a perfectly good path pedestrians seem to want to walk(not runners) on the road in the bike lane and often they are salmoning. I'm not sure why this section of road seems to attract pedestrians to the edge of the road and i fail to see what their logic is when they are doing this?
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Re: The Dumb Cyclists and Pedestrians thread...

Postby Baalzamon » Wed Nov 21, 2012 9:25 am

Yesterday commuting home nearing the Mt Henry Bridge I was in a small group and we were overtaking a slower rider, another small group then proceeds to overtake us and I almost push one guy into dirt. Silly move as I pass him again as he has been dropped 300m further on. Bit past that, the other 2 riders that had overtaken had tried a similar stunt and taken themselves and another cyclist down
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Re: The Dumb Cyclists and Pedestrians thread...

Postby twizzle » Wed Nov 21, 2012 3:23 pm

I mean to post this one up the other week.

80kph zone, on-road cycle lane, hits a large two lane round-about and the on-road becomes a concrete path around the outside edge of the roundabout before rejoining as an on-road on the other side.

So I'm driving out to a race in The Van to do marshaling, I've just about reached the cyclist as he's reached the end of the on-road, and it's about 30 metres before you cross the give way line at the roundabout. It's also just at the point where you get line-of-sight to the right-hand entry to the roundabout and the temptation is to look to the right.

So luckily, I resisted the urge to look to the right... because numpty decided he didn't want to use the path around the roundabout, he wanted to become a car. He didn't look, he didn't give any hand signals, he just crossed the unbroken white line into my path. My left hand mirror missed him by about 20cm.
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Re: The Dumb Cyclists and Pedestrians thread...

Postby wellington_street » Wed Nov 21, 2012 3:32 pm

He'll probably come on here whinging that some motorist shaved him :roll: :lol:
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Re: The Dumb Cyclists and Pedestrians thread...

Postby wellington_street » Thu Nov 22, 2012 11:45 am

Walking home last night, this POBSO (Pea-brain On a Bike Shaped Object) was riding around in the dark, with dark clothes on, no helmet and no lights. Decided he would leave the footpath and ride into oncoming traffic, as you do, luckily for him the drivers managed to brake. He disappeared behind me and I thought that was it.

2 minutes later, further up the street, he comes flying past me from behind on a very narrow section of the footpath with no warning at all, missing me by centimetres. Startled me a little.

POBSO then proceeded to cross the road against the red man, in front of a left turning car which had to slam on its brakes to avoid hitting him. Instead of continuing straight onto the other footpath, he then veered left in front of the car and into oncoming through traffic to ride the wrong way up the one-way street. All with no lights and dark clothing.

Some people just have a death wish!
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Re: The Dumb Cyclists and Pedestrians thread...

Postby jules21 » Thu Nov 22, 2012 11:58 am

i stopped at intersection of flinders/swanston sts, heading westbound. waiting for the red to change at this major, busy intersection, 2 cyclists proceeded through it, threading the traffic. honestly, i don't blame drivers for thinking cyclists are morons, there's just too much evidence of it.
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Re: The Dumb Cyclists and Pedestrians thread...

Postby Lukeyboy » Thu Nov 22, 2012 12:22 pm

Parked car waiting to turn into their driveway right up against the gutter... check.
Limited visability corner up ahead... check.
On coming traffic... check.
Going with traffic... check.
Riding a bike slowly in the wrong direction towards the car wanting to turn into their driveway only to then wonder back into the correct lane of traffic before swerving back into oncoming traffic and riding head on up the inside of traffic.....
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Re: The Dumb Cyclists and Pedestrians thread...

Postby jasonc » Thu Nov 22, 2012 12:33 pm

Lukeyboy wrote:Riding a bike slowly in the gutter in the wrong direction towards the car wanting to turn into their driveway only to then wonder back into the correct lane of traffic before swerving back into oncoming traffic and riding head on up the inside of traffic.....


fixed it for you. they've got a helmet on because they are riding in the gutter
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Re: The Dumb Cyclists and Pedestrians thread...

Postby wellington_street » Wed Nov 28, 2012 1:19 pm

Yesterday's morons of the day were the four cyclists who decided that it was appropriate to ride along the narrow painted median and the wrong side of the road across the horseshoe bridge. The painted median being, of course, where pedestrians stand while waiting to cross the road. There's too many of these morons at this location so whenever crossing the road I am wary that some bellend on a bicycle or moron on a motorcycle is going to come down the wrong side of the road. I'm sure plenty of other peds aren't!

These four idiots probably wonder why cyclists have a bad reputation with motorists :roll:
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Re: The Dumb Cyclists and Pedestrians thread...

Postby Lukeyboy » Wed Nov 28, 2012 6:06 pm

Todays dumb cyclist had to be that stupid bike messenger on his fixie in the city (that I constantly see running reds and weaving in traffic) who decided to ride the wrong way weaving in between oncoming cars and buses along George Street (3-4 lanes of one way traffic) during peak hour at 4.20ishpm. I don't condone it but someone has to open a door on that idiot to teach him a lesson. I'd post a video but the gopro froze as I was riding through West End-South Bank.
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Re: The Dumb Cyclists and Pedestrians thread...

Postby human909 » Wed Nov 28, 2012 6:15 pm

Lukeyboy wrote:I don't condone it but someone has to open a door on that idiot to teach him a lesson.


:evil: :evil: :evil: :evil: :evil: :evil: :evil: :evil: :evil: :evil: :evil: :evil: :evil: :evil:

I cannot possibly fathom why you would say this. With comments like these I am beginning to wonder if the attitudes of cyclists are often worse than motorists. :(

Thankfully I do recognise that the average cyclist is not any more represented by the arrogant, narrow minded and self righteous attitudes of some cyclists who post on cycling forums as the average motorist is represented by comments on a Herald Sun article. :idea:
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Re: The Dumb Cyclists and Pedestrians thread...

Postby Lukeyboy » Wed Nov 28, 2012 11:02 pm

human909 wrote:
Lukeyboy wrote:I don't condone it but someone has to open a door on that idiot to teach him a lesson.


:evil: :evil: :evil: :evil: :evil: :evil: :evil: :evil: :evil: :evil: :evil: :evil: :evil: :evil:

I cannot possibly fathom why you would say this. With comments like these I am beginning to wonder if the attitudes of cyclists are often worse than motorists. :(

Thankfully I do recognise that the average cyclist is not any more represented by the arrogant, narrow minded and self righteous attitudes of some cyclists who post on cycling forums as the average motorist is represented by comments on a Herald Sun article. :idea:


Oh boohoo. Its d******d cyclists like that which I have no regard for. My attitude isn't any different towards those motorists that recklessly speed, drink drive, drag race, blantly ignore the road rules and put other peoples lives at risk. If you ride towards 4 lanes of oncomming traffic along a 1 direction road through the CBD during peakhour, constantly run red lights or ride through the centre of intersections with people crossing from all footpaths then I couldn't give 2 cents what happens to him. Maybe a good dooring would make him wake up and ride sensibly.
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Re: The Dumb Cyclists and Pedestrians thread...

Postby beauyboy » Thu Nov 29, 2012 8:39 am

Personally when ever I see any reckless behaviour by anyone I have two words
"Darwin's Theory"
I refuse to give respect for someone that does not respect themselves!

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