Cinelli SuperCorsa Build

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Cinelli SuperCorsa Build

Postby Velo13 » Tue Nov 20, 2012 3:42 pm

I decided that she'd been sitting in a box for 6 years too long. I have had all the bits together for nearly a year, but not the time or the impetus to build her up.

A very late 90s, and as a result actually has an aheadset steerer. They switched back to threaded again in the 00s.

She's going to get a full '97 Record Ti 9s group (apart from FD and Seatpole, both Chorus), with my 24h/32h Campag 10s training wheels, Cinelli Groove stem and Giro bars, and a Rolls.

This one is very special to me - a bit like owning a Ferrari Dino 246GT (not that I ever have) - seems a shame to have such a beautiful piece of machinery just sit in the garage. This one is going to get ridden.

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Sorry, inside photos with big tungsten lamps and yellow walls!

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Just a peek at the chrome lugs.

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Neuron tubing means that it can still be quite stiff and light, but have a classic look with standard diameter tubes.

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Very understated (at least compared to the shiny lugs).

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The finish is unreal, and the attention to detail sublime.

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Semi-vertical drops - but this is NEVER going to be a fixie!

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Some copper slip and the build has officially started.
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Re: Cinelli SuperCorsa Build

Postby Dan » Tue Nov 20, 2012 4:36 pm

4 days til Raturday. My guess is its half done by now ;)
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Re: Cinelli SuperCorsa Build

Postby vaeske » Tue Nov 20, 2012 5:08 pm

dan its prolly built and he's taken it for a spin already! :D
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Re: Cinelli SuperCorsa Build

Postby GaryF » Tue Nov 20, 2012 5:23 pm

"SPECIAL" is the word that comes to my mind.

Fantastic frame - Parts list is mouth watering. I can hardly wait to see the finished article.
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Re: Cinelli SuperCorsa Build

Postby Velo13 » Tue Nov 20, 2012 5:38 pm

Dan wrote:4 days til Raturday. My guess is its half done by now ;)


Yeah. Just needs wheels and cables.
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Re: Cinelli SuperCorsa Build

Postby Dan » Tue Nov 20, 2012 5:55 pm

Steal, beg, borrow - I want to see this come raturday! Perhaps a challenger for bike of the year, alongside mustang's pinarello?
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Re: Cinelli SuperCorsa Build

Postby munga » Tue Nov 20, 2012 7:25 pm

now i'm truly disappointed i'll be working this raturday :(
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Re: Cinelli SuperCorsa Build

Postby Dan » Tue Nov 20, 2012 7:45 pm

J, is neuron what max aimed to be, but with a standard diameter and regular section?
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Re: Cinelli SuperCorsa Build

Postby BRLVR.v2 » Wed Nov 21, 2012 12:18 pm

Love that brake bridge.
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Re: Cinelli SuperCorsa Build

Postby Velo13 » Wed Nov 21, 2012 4:02 pm

Dan wrote:J, is neuron what max aimed to be, but with a standard diameter and regular section?


Neuron is the same grade of steel (Nivacrom) but very thin wall, and yes, standard diameter. I believe it was released in the late 90s though.

MAX was Nivacrom as well, but released about 1991. It has lots of very funky shapes, and all oversize. MAX is my favourite tubeset. Of all the steel I have ridden, MAX rides the best - stiff as, comfortable, and known to be bombproof. It does come at a slight weight penalty (probably less than 10%). The standard lugs were very heavy though .... but there were ways around that.

I do admit to some emotion during this build :oops:

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It better not rain on Raterday.
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Re: Cinelli SuperCorsa Build

Postby munga » Wed Nov 21, 2012 4:21 pm

if it rains, you can bring it and ride someone else's spare bike. 8)
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Re: Cinelli SuperCorsa Build

Postby Dan » Wed Nov 21, 2012 6:06 pm

munga wrote:if it rains, you can bring it and ride someone else's spare bike. 8)


Act 1. Where munga considers ditching work on Saturday, loads spare bike into van, then calls cloud seeding service...
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Re: Cinelli SuperCorsa Build

Postby Velo13 » Fri Nov 23, 2012 6:28 am

Done. 9.3kg as you see here (Campag Nucleons - some of the best factory wheels I have ever seen).

Took her for a ride yesterday, and she's great (1500g wheels always help). Racier than I expected: steep seat & head tube + super short stays = short wheelbase. Certainly feels more "spritely" than my CAAD9 (at least in the steering department). This will be a great descender I feel.

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Got a ride up Mt Nebo planned for today. Will report back.
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Re: Cinelli SuperCorsa Build

Postby singlespeedscott » Fri Nov 23, 2012 6:50 am

One of the nicest rides I've seen on here in awhile. Just beautiful!

(Whispers, just needs a nicer stem to match the rest of the build and maybe some classic Veloflex master skin wall tyres)

9 speed Record titanium, IMHO, is Campagnolo's nicest ergo groupset. The carbon stuff just isn't as pretty.
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Re: Cinelli SuperCorsa Build

Postby Velo13 » Fri Nov 23, 2012 7:32 am

singlespeedscott wrote:One of the nicest rides I've seen on here in awhile. Just beautiful!

(Whispers, just needs a nicer stem to match the rest of the build and maybe some classic Veloflex master skin wall tyres)

9 speed Record titanium, IMHO, is Campagnolo's nicest ergo groupset. The carbon stuff just isn't as pretty.


Thanks Scott for your kind words.

I agree about the stem. Ideally silver, but Cinelli didn't make many aheadset stems that work with 26.0! Certainly not in silver anyway.

9 speed Record is my favourite too - less "clunky" than 8 speed, and seems smoother in the shifts than 10s. I have not tried 11s yet.
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Re: Cinelli SuperCorsa Build

Postby Dan » Fri Nov 23, 2012 7:37 am

+1, that's a very nice looking ride. Would've joined you for Nebo if I'd known. Will see it tomorrow though - not much descending to be had on the raturday loop though!
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Re: Cinelli SuperCorsa Build

Postby tripstobaltimore » Fri Nov 23, 2012 7:57 am

Very nice, love the look. Well done :D
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Re: Cinelli SuperCorsa Build

Postby GaryF » Fri Nov 23, 2012 9:56 am

How long was that lying around in the box for?

It would be very interesting to measure the head and seat tube angles. I wonder just how upright they might be?

I was also interested to see the seat cluster wasn't half chromed like earlier Supercorsa's but that is neither 'here nor there' as it is simply beautiful. I could look at it for hours.

I quite like the stem (which just has to be Cinelli) with it's gentle downward bend. The Campy 9 speed is really at home mate to your beautiful frame.

(This post has taken me quite a while as I keep going back to the photos - I just can't stop looking at the photos)
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Re: Cinelli SuperCorsa Build

Postby Velo13 » Fri Nov 23, 2012 2:40 pm

GaryF wrote:How long was that lying around in the box for?


Six years on my watch. Previous owner hadn't ridden it for about 6 years prior to that.

GaryF wrote:It would be very interesting to measure the head and seat tube angles. I wonder just how upright they might be?


She doesn't feel twitchy at all. However coming down the corkscrew today, I noticed the short wheelbase every time I hit the brakes hard on steep sections, into those hairpins. Faster weight transfer (forward) than my CAAD9, even though the brakes aren't quite as good. Perhaps the deep bends on the bars, or the short chainstays, but likely, both!

My riding partner was on a CAAD10, and we both thought that his rear chainstays were at least 15mm longer than the Cinelli.

Down through the big sweepers though, my bro in law couldn't get away (and he's a very good descender).

GaryF wrote:I was also interested to see the seat cluster wasn't half chromed like earlier Supercorsa's but that is neither 'here nor there' as it is simply beautiful. I could look at it for hours.


For some reason when I acquired her, there was some rust on that chromed lug, so I had it sorted by Peter at Star Enamellers. Re-chroming meant doing the whole frame again, and this bike is not a show piece anyway.

GaryF wrote:I quite like the stem (which just has to be Cinelli) with it's gentle downward bend. The Campy 9 speed is really at home mate to your beautiful frame.


I don't mind the stem, but I'll keep an eye open. Even a Groove in Silver would be an improvement. Campy 9 was the obvious choice, and when it came on my Merckx (the next retro resto planned) I knew that I had finally found the group that would do the Cinelli justice.

Thanks GaryF, I am glad you like her.
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Re: Cinelli SuperCorsa Build

Postby dubrat » Tue Nov 27, 2012 1:10 pm

Did this make it up to ride Raterday
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Re: Cinelli SuperCorsa Build

Postby Dan » Tue Nov 27, 2012 1:51 pm

dubrat wrote:Did this make it up to ride Raterday


It did indeed - check the vids in the Raturday thread for a few close-ups AK
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Re: Cinelli SuperCorsa Build

Postby humanbeing » Tue Nov 27, 2012 7:59 pm

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Awesome, very cool 8)
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Re: Cinelli SuperCorsa Build

Postby dubrat » Wed Nov 28, 2012 10:54 am

Looking forward to getting 2 x Cinelli SC to a Raterday ride....

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Re: Cinelli SuperCorsa Build

Postby Dan » Wed Nov 28, 2012 11:31 am

glorious!
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Re: Cinelli SuperCorsa Build

Postby munga » Wed Nov 28, 2012 11:33 am

bloody hell, we (by "we", i mean "I") might have to step up a bit if we keep getting these sweet rides along.
repco's just aren't cutting it anymore!
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