Suggestions for colour
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Suggestions for colour
Postby bychosis » Mon Oct 29, 2012 6:05 pm
Suggestions for a frame colour?
I'm thinking either metallic red or satin black. So far saddle and bar tape are black, and I won't be changing that for a while, and definitely not to white for either.
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Re: Suggestions for colour
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Re: Suggestions for colour
Postby ldrcycles » Sat Nov 24, 2012 11:14 pm
And there's no need to be embarassed or anything about the Reid wheels, if it's the cheap v ones then they're just Quando hubs on Stars Circle rims, i've been thrashing the hell out of a set of those for well over a year with no worries, i've got a bunch of pb's on strava with them.
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Re: Suggestions for colour
Postby damhooligan » Sun Nov 25, 2012 12:31 am
bychosis wrote:I have knocked up an old Raleigh frame into a fixie. Bought some Reid wheels (I know) in royal blue and a blue chain (because I can). I have a better sized frame that is partially stripped and getting ready for paint.
Suggestions for a frame colour?
I'm thinking either metallic red or satin black. So far saddle and bar tape are black, and I won't be changing that for a while, and definitely not to white for either.
how long is a piece of string ??
I often get asked, wich color do you think is better ?? (as I repaint other peoples bikes)
My answer, none, as it is not my bike.
Its your bike, you choose.
If you want my suggestion , I would suggest blue metallic, as thats my favorite color.
But thats my color, not yours, so just pick a color you like, and you wil be fine.
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Re: Suggestions for colour
Postby Dan » Sun Nov 25, 2012 8:06 am
damhooligan wrote:If you want my suggestion , I would suggest blue metallic, as thats my favorite color.
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Re: Suggestions for colour
Postby BRLVR.v2 » Sun Nov 25, 2012 9:29 am
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Re: Suggestions for colour
Postby find_bruce » Sun Nov 25, 2012 10:01 am
Saw a bike like that last week - had a lovely spider web pattern of rust under the powdercoat. Looked very artistic now, but I suspect not very long lastingBRLVR.v2 wrote:Media blast to raw steel and clear powdercoat.
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Re: Suggestions for colour
Postby BRLVR.v2 » Sun Nov 25, 2012 10:26 am
Sure it was powder coat , and not just a clear coat of paint? Clear on raw Powder coat is offered by brands in many bikes now as an option and shouldn't rust unless chipped, just like a tinted powder coat. clear laquer sprayed on to an unprimed metal however will rust quickly. Hooli needs to chip in here I think.find_bruce wrote:Saw a bike like that last week - had a lovely spider web pattern of rust under the powdercoat. Looked very artistic now, but I suspect not very long lastingBRLVR.v2 wrote:Media blast to raw steel and clear powdercoat.
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Re: Suggestions for colour
Postby ldrcycles » Sun Nov 25, 2012 1:34 pm
Another vote for blue metallic.Dan wrote:damhooligan wrote:If you want my suggestion , I would suggest blue metallic, as thats my favorite color.
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Re: Suggestions for colour
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Re: Suggestions for colour
Postby damhooligan » Sun Nov 25, 2012 2:55 pm
Clear powdercoat and clear laquer are the same product.BRLVR.v2 wrote:Sure it was powder coat , and not just a clear coat of paint? Clear on raw Powder coat is offered by brands in many bikes now as an option and shouldn't rust unless chipped, just like a tinted powder coat. clear laquer sprayed on to an unprimed metal however will rust quickly. Hooli needs to chip in here I think.find_bruce wrote:Saw a bike like that last week - had a lovely spider web pattern of rust under the powdercoat. Looked very artistic now, but I suspect not very long lastingBRLVR.v2 wrote:Media blast to raw steel and clear powdercoat.
The diff is application!!
Both are poreus meaning they wil let air trough.
Meaning they wil both rust.
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Re: Suggestions for colour
Postby munga » Sun Nov 25, 2012 4:30 pm
and ditch the blue chain.
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Re: Suggestions for colour
Postby BRLVR.v2 » Sun Nov 25, 2012 6:27 pm
So adding a pigment that makes either of them opaque changes the porosity ? or am I missing something here? Clear is completely different in it's chemical composition and therefore more porous that a colour pigmented base.damhooligan wrote: Clear powdercoat and clear laquer are the same product.
The diff is application!!
Both are poreus meaning they wil let air trough.
Meaning they wil both rust.
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Re: Suggestions for colour
Postby damhooligan » Sun Nov 25, 2012 7:25 pm
Im not a chemical expert, so I dont have the exact details, but i think both are the same in porosityBRLVR.v2 wrote:So adding a pigment that makes either of them opaque changes the porosity ? or am I missing something here? Clear is completely different in it's chemical composition and therefore more porous that a colour pigmented base.damhooligan wrote: Clear powdercoat and clear laquer are the same product.
The diff is application!!
Both are poreus meaning they wil let air trough.
Meaning they wil both rust.
I never looked into this, so a very good question.
What I do know is , if you use only clear on top of bare steel, you are exluding an important step,
primer.
As the primer is also a key element of insulating the bare steel, and key to preventing corosion.
Primer is not poreous, and is always applied under color pigmented paint.
Giving the color version garanteed the effects you need.
So it is not just the top coat thats important, but the undercoat plays also a key part.
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Re: Suggestions for colour
Postby BRLVR.v2 » Sun Nov 25, 2012 8:34 pm
i didn't think powder coat used a primer, just needed an etched surface and a thorough clean before application, and was a applied in a one step process. I respect your opinion as a painter, but think the info you are offering on the alternative is possibly not qualified. There are images of clear powder coated frames on the net that are several years old with no signs of rust, as opposed to clear coats of paint on an unprimed surface that are rusty.damhooligan wrote:Im not a chemical expert, so I dont have the exact details, but i think both are the same in porosityBRLVR.v2 wrote:So adding a pigment that makes either of them opaque changes the porosity ? or am I missing something here? Clear is completely different in it's chemical composition and therefore more porous that a colour pigmented base.damhooligan wrote: Clear powdercoat and clear laquer are the same product.
The diff is application!!
Both are poreus meaning they wil let air trough.
Meaning they wil both rust.
I never looked into this, so a very good question.
What I do know is , if you use only clear on top of bare steel, you are exluding an important step,
primer.
As the primer is also a key element of insulating the bare steel, and key to preventing corosion.
Primer is not poreous, and is always applied under color pigmented paint.
Giving the color version garanteed the effects you need.
So it is not just the top coat thats important, but the undercoat plays also a key part.
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Re: Suggestions for colour
Postby damhooligan » Mon Nov 26, 2012 10:12 am
i didn't think powder coat used a primer, just needed an etched surface and a thorough clean before application, and was a applied in a one step process. I respect your opinion as a painter, but think the info you are offering on the alternative is possibly not qualified. There are images of clear powder coated frames on the net that are several years old with no signs of rust, as opposed to clear coats of paint on an unprimed surface that are rusty.[/quote]BRLVR.v2 wrote:Im not a chemical expert, so I dont have the exact details, but i think both are the same in porositydamhooligan wrote:So adding a pigment that makes either of them opaque changes the porosity ? or am I missing something here? Clear is completely different in it's chemical composition and therefore more porous that a colour pigmented base.BRLVR.v2 wrote:[quote="damhooligan"
Clear powdercoat and clear laquer are the same product.
The diff is application!!
Both are poreus meaning they wil let air trough.
Meaning they wil both rust.
I never looked into this, so a very good question.
What I do know is , if you use only clear on top of bare steel, you are exluding an important step,
primer.
As the primer is also a key element of insulating the bare steel, and key to preventing corosion.
Primer is not poreous, and is always applied under color pigmented paint.
Giving the color version garanteed the effects you need.
So it is not just the top coat thats important, but the undercoat plays also a key part.
Powdercoat can be applied in different ways
Just one coat color.
Primer and color.
And primer color and clear.
Powdercoat is often.thicker and wil delay the proces.
But its does not prevent rust.
Clear over steel wil rust.
Type of application makes no difference
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