Shortness of Breath / Athsma Atack
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Shortness of Breath / Athsma Atack
Postby Alien27 » Wed Nov 14, 2012 5:11 pm
- I have been a weekend warrior for approx 6 months
- I have no history of athsma
- I'm 6ft and 85kg's
- I push myself and have done a good bit of roller and stationary trainer work as well so my fitness is quite good now and I'm building strength.
- I scoped out my commute to work last weekend and am going to commute 2 days a week from now on
- First commute run was this one ---> http://app.strava.com/activities/27682718 Proud as nuts of that ride but I suspect its not a particularly competitive Strava ride.
Anyway towards the end of that ride there is a steep segment called 'ANZAC AVE Hill (Top)' I had pushed myself on that ride but didn't think I was particularly killing myself, however just at the top of that hill I had a lot of trouble breathing. It almost felt like my lungs (and throat especially) couldn't open up fully/enough. I was wheezing as well.
Scary really because there was no warning. I was pushing but felt good, my legs weren't protesting any more than normal on a steep climb and my cardio didn't seem too pushed. I was out of the saddle and in a nice rhythm grinding my way to the top of the hill, I felt like I could have kept on climbing, but perhaps I was just ignoring my body and grinding out to a rhythm. I got 4th overall on the segment ahead of some people I know that are far stronger, fitter and more experienced than me, so maybe I was just pushing beyond my limits without knowing it.
I got to the top just as the Shortness Of Breath started, as I crested the top of the hill I just peddled on in the granny gear taking it super easy (low cadence and speed) but it just got worse, so I stopped and tried to calm my breathing (it didn't seem particularly rapid) but just 'stressed' as it were. For a moment, as it was getting rapidly worse, I thought $h!t I'm gong to need an ambulance here but I just thought OK, be calm, straighten out, and concentrate on just breathing. It passed in what felt like a couple of minutes and then when I returned to normal breathing I got back on and took it easy till I got home, I didn't feel that bad after but I didn't want to push in case SOB would come back.
It freaks me out quite a bit that there was no warning. Is this something that happens to everyone at some stage if they push two hard? Does it sound like Asthma?
Any advice would be much appreciated,
Thanks, Tom
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Re: Shortness of Breath / Athsma Atack
Postby greyhoundtom » Wed Nov 14, 2012 7:32 pm
First thing is of course to have your GP check you out and possibly have a few tests done to rule out all the serious stuff that may cause sudden shortness of breath during exercise.
The only other thing I can think of that may cause rapid and short term inflammation of the airways and/or a stricture, is breathing in a large amount of pollen, or some sort of toxic fumes for a short period of time.
While I have no idea what is around the area where the problem occurred that may have led to this, factories or bush land.......either could be to blame.
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Re: Shortness of Breath / Athsma Atack
Postby macca33 » Wed Nov 14, 2012 7:37 pm
You did the right thing by stopping and trying to calm / control your breathing. To be on the safe side, it would be advisable to go and see your GP.
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Re: Shortness of Breath / Athsma Atack
Postby greyhoundtom » Wed Nov 14, 2012 7:42 pm
I remember one instance on a hot day when I decided to buy a McDonald’s ice cream and ride my bike while eating it, and accidentally breathed in a minute amount of ice cream.
I finished up sitting on the side of the road struggling to breathe with my throat just about closed down for about 15 minutes, and though I wasn't going to make it.
Scared the hell out of me.
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Re: Shortness of Breath / Athsma Atack
Postby coffeeandwine » Wed Nov 14, 2012 8:06 pm
+1greyhoundtom wrote:Sorry to hear that happened to you, and yes it would be damn scary.
First thing is of course to have your GP check you out and possibly have a few tests done to rule out all the serious stuff that may cause sudden shortness of breath during exercise.
The only other thing I can think of that may cause rapid and short term inflammation of the airways and/or a stricture, is breathing in a large amount of pollen, or some sort of toxic fumes for a short period of time.
While I have no idea what is around the area where the problem occurred that may have led to this, factories or bush land.......either could be to blame.
Asthma is not something to ignore. I would definitely be getting it checked. Yes it is possible to develop asthma at a mature age.
Agree with macca that this is a really bad time of year. Mrs C+W is usually bad this time of year but seems even worse this year, had a small response just by walking past someone smoking outside in the city a few weeks ago. (Cat hairs, cigarette smoke, pollen, rye grass, even cold air will trigger her asthma under the right conditions; seems she has a heightened allergic response this time of year due to all the triggers). The other week she went for a bike ride and went past a paddock that had just been mown, worst thing was - she had forgotten her (ventolin) puffer.
Good luck, once you have a diagnosis and treatment plan it's something you can relax about rather than wondering if the SOB will kick in again at an unexpected moment.
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Re: Shortness of Breath / Athsma Atack
Postby sogood » Wed Nov 14, 2012 10:42 pm
The only way to really know whether you have an underlying asthma is to go and see your doctor and possibly do a challenge test. I am sceptical though.
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Re: Shortness of Breath / Athsma Atack
Postby grantw » Wed Nov 14, 2012 11:23 pm
As my fitness returns to normal levels the EIA goes away, though I do carry a ventolin inhaler sometimes - especially if I've had a cold or flu- just in case.
Having said that, shortness of breath can indicate a lot of different things and a medical review would give you some clearer idea of what's going on.
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Re: Shortness of Breath / Athsma Atack
Postby twizzle » Thu Nov 15, 2012 6:36 am
Doesn't sound like asthma to me. Off to the doctor you go...
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Re: Shortness of Breath / Athsma Atack
Postby Alien27 » Thu Nov 15, 2012 8:37 am
Anyway I was hoping for a 'you just hit the wall mate, it happens to us all' so its off the Doctor for me.
Thanks heaps,
Tom
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Re: Shortness of Breath / Athsma Atack
Postby Alien27 » Sun Nov 18, 2012 8:05 pm
It’s really frustrating not being able to push myself, and it doesn’t take much push at all now for it to return.
Can anyone recommend a sports doctor that would have facilities for testing for exercise induced asthma or even a doctor that rides in Sydney and has a bit of experience with such matters. It would be good to see one that understood sports, fitness etc and not just a regular GP.
Cheers
Tom
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Re: Shortness of Breath / Athsma Atack
Postby jimsheedy » Sun Nov 18, 2012 10:27 pm
Ive also found it is exacerbated by booze. Not that I was a heavy drinker in the first place but I have cut right back to almost nill now.
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Re: Shortness of Breath / Athsma Atack
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Re: Shortness of Breath / Athsma Atack
Postby greyhoundtom » Tue Nov 27, 2012 6:52 am
I do hope everything is good.
Cheers,
Tom
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Re: Shortness of Breath / Athsma Atack
Postby Alien27 » Tue Nov 27, 2012 8:51 am
greyhoundtom wrote:Hi Tom, mate any news in regard to the tests done by your GP?
I do hope everything is good.
Cheers,
Tom
The GP referred me to a specialist at RNS Private and the gods were smiling on me as when I rang I was told the next available appointment was in March or if i could make 9am the next day they had a cancellation, so 9am it was. The specialist was really good and a rider as well (he currently had a broken collar bone from a crash), he examined me and listened to my story and said that 99% it was sports induced Asthma but that he would get me to do tests to confirm the diagnosis. He prescribed me a puffer for the meantime (2puffs prior to a ride and one ever hour during the ride).
The puffer works a treat! I came 2 in the D grade prim at Sundays Waratah Masters race in Lansdowne and had a strong race overall pushing myself without a hint of SOB and in Saturdays D Grade LACC race in Bass hill won the prim and came 3rd (only a field of 8-10 though), again without a hint of SOB.
The 1st asthma test is booked for this Thursday and another one next week. they should confirm the diagnosis but I'm just pumped I can push hard again without fear of SOB.
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Postby greyhoundtom » Tue Nov 27, 2012 10:20 am
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Re: Shortness of Breath / Athsma Atack
Postby goneriding » Tue Nov 27, 2012 1:21 pm
PED's? Salbutamol is on the WADA banned list. You'd better watch out for the drug testers hanging around the CritsAlien27 wrote: The puffer works a treat! I came 2 in the D grade prim at Sundays Waratah Masters race in Lansdowne and had a strong race overall pushing myself without a hint of SOB and in Saturdays D Grade LACC race in Bass hill won the prim and came 3rd (only a field of 8-10 though), again without a hint of SOB.
That said, as a life long asthma sufferer, the advent of Intal and Ventolin was a Godsend! An attack is a very scary thing.
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Re: Shortness of Breath / Athsma Atack
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Re: Shortness of Breath / Athsma Atack
Postby Alien27 » Tue Nov 27, 2012 1:52 pm
Yikes, I hadn't thought of that. Ill have to refund the $10 prize money I got for Saturdays prim and 3rd placinggoneriding wrote:PED's? Salbutamol is on the WADA banned list. You'd better watch out for the drug testers hanging around the CritsAlien27 wrote: The puffer works a treat! I came 2 in the D grade prim at Sundays Waratah Masters race in Lansdowne and had a strong race overall pushing myself without a hint of SOB and in Saturdays D Grade LACC race in Bass hill won the prim and came 3rd (only a field of 8-10 though), again without a hint of SOB.
That said, as a life long asthma sufferer, the advent of Intal and Ventolin was a Godsend! An attack is a very scary thing.
In all seriousness though the puffer is a Ventolin, is that on the band list? is there a process I should be going through here? perhaps a form I should be filling out getting an exemption...
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Re: Shortness of Breath / Athsma Atack
Postby elantra » Tue Nov 27, 2012 3:04 pm
This link below answers your questions, looks like you don't need to pester your doctor for an explanatory letter.Alien27 wrote:Yikes, I hadn't thought of that. Ill have to refund the $10 prize money I got for Saturdays prim and 3rd placinggoneriding wrote:PED's? Salbutamol is on the WADA banned list. You'd better watch out for the drug testers hanging around the CritsAlien27 wrote: The puffer works a treat! I came 2 in the D grade prim at Sundays Waratah Masters race in Lansdowne and had a strong race overall pushing myself without a hint of SOB and in Saturdays D Grade LACC race in Bass hill won the prim and came 3rd (only a field of 8-10 though), again without a hint of SOB.
That said, as a life long asthma sufferer, the advent of Intal and Ventolin was a Godsend! An attack is a very scary thing.
In all seriousness though the puffer is a Ventolin, is that on the band list? is there a process I should be going through here? perhaps a form I should be filling out getting an exemption...
I am sure you will find that lots of competitive cyclists use salbutamol inhalers (ventolin), usually for legitimate reasons
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