Time for new Track wheels

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Time for new Track wheels

Postby mikesbytes » Wed Nov 28, 2012 9:23 am

I'm looking seriously at getting some new track wheels.

Rear Wheel
I don't see any point in going for anything but a disc wheel. I hear conflicting story's ranging between there been bugger all difference between them to the opposite.
Cost
Someone mentioned that TWE has a disk wheel for $800, haven't checked that out. Mail order there seems to be plenty of options between $900 and $1,500. I don't object to paying more if there's value in that purchase. One that stuck out at me today was an FF one;
http://www.wiggle.co.uk/fast-forward-carbon-tubular-track-disc-wheel/
With the current discount, it works out at $840 delivered, so its a cheap option.

Front Wheel
This seems to be a mine field. There are so many options;
- Deep dish conventional spokes
- Solid spoke wheels - 3, 4, 5 spokes
My head hurts working this one out

But wait, there's more
Some disc wheels can be converted between track and road. I also need TT wheels, so I've had passing thoughts about using for both, but it brings up questions about tyres and braking surfaces.
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Re: Time for new Track wheels

Postby vander » Wed Nov 28, 2012 11:29 am

Firstly I have to say get in contact with Greg (from TWE) he will look after you, I wouldnt buy wheels from anyone else now. I dont know how much they will be from him but he does look after his customers.

On the front wheel, I would go with a deep dish wheel, it will be more useful on outdoor tracks, if you are planning on doing the Christmas carnival or other track opens.
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Re: Time for new Track wheels

Postby mikesbytes » Wed Nov 28, 2012 3:18 pm

More interested in the NSW and Aust Masters champs, both will probably be run at DGV
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Re: Time for new Track wheels

Postby vander » Wed Nov 28, 2012 3:27 pm

mikesbytes wrote:More interested in the NSW and Aust Masters champs, both will probably be run at DGV


The difference between a trispoke and a deep dish is very minimal (which is why you still see deep dishes at international level) however the wheel of choice seems to be either a 3 or 4 spoke on the front at the moment so maybe look into that.
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Re: Time for new Track wheels

Postby bigfriendlyvegan » Wed Nov 28, 2012 4:19 pm

Check out pro-lite. They've got a pretty rear disc and a few different fronts.
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Re: Time for new Track wheels

Postby mikesbytes » Wed Nov 28, 2012 4:51 pm

Most pro's seem to be using Mavic Disc and Mavic 5 spoke. Is there any aero data on the front wheels?

The Pro-Light wheel is on the same web site for about another $100. Once again, not a big difference in cost, but what's the difference?
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Re: Time for new Track wheels

Postby r2160 » Thu Nov 29, 2012 2:35 pm

I spoke to Sean Eadie a little while ago. He said (in reference to sprinters) that a disc rear wheel was worth 1/10th of a second over 200m with the top sprinters.

So I have no doubt that it would make a difference no matter who you are

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Re: Time for new Track wheels

Postby jacks1071 » Thu Nov 29, 2012 4:49 pm

mikesbytes wrote:Most pro's seem to be using Mavic Disc and Mavic 5 spoke. Is there any aero data on the front wheels?

The Pro-Light wheel is on the same web site for about another $100. Once again, not a big difference in cost, but what's the difference?


The Pro-Lite is road and track compatible, its also one of very few disc's that the manufacturer will warranty for track tandem usage which should tell you something about the strength.

Someone used mine like a BMX jump last week and there isn't a mark on it. Actually the guy who rode over it barely had a mark on him since he landed on top of me but its all good :-)
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Re: Time for new Track wheels

Postby brendan rocks » Sun Oct 27, 2013 5:00 pm

mate, just get some shamals.
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Re: Time for new Track wheels

Postby brawlo » Mon Oct 28, 2013 8:41 am

mikesbytes wrote:Most pro's seem to be using Mavic Disc and Mavic 5 spoke. Is there any aero data on the front wheels?


Word on the interwebs is that Mavic makes a very persuasive argument to use their wheels ($$$$) ........ apparently.

The PRO disc comes with the dura ace hub which might sway their argument. But that FFWD is a good price!
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Re: Time for new Track wheels

Postby mikesbytes » Mon Oct 28, 2013 10:01 am

Thread from the past

I puchased a disk and a deep disk spoked front. I'm currently using them for road TT and will convert them to track for the summer track season. The disk wheel came with both road axle and track axle. For the front its just a skewer change.

Running Veloflex Record 22mm singles on both wheels
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Re: Time for new Track wheels

Postby dalai47 » Mon Oct 28, 2013 10:08 am

mikesbytes wrote:I puchased a disk and a deep disk spoked front.


What did you settle on?
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Re: Time for new Track wheels

Postby brawlo » Mon Oct 28, 2013 12:19 pm

mikesbytes wrote:Thread from the past


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Re: Time for new Track wheels

Postby mikesbytes » Mon Oct 28, 2013 2:16 pm

dalai47 wrote:
mikesbytes wrote:I puchased a disk and a deep disk spoked front.


What did you settle on?


Pro-lite rear disk
Fast Forward 90mm front

I've got an old zipp disk rear wheel, but wasn't successful in sourcing the correct axle. Wouldn't mind getting it converted to a front wheel if it could be done without too much cost
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Re: Time for new Track wheels

Postby dalai47 » Mon Oct 28, 2013 3:25 pm

mikesbytes wrote:I've got an old zipp disk rear wheel, but wasn't successful in sourcing the correct axle. Wouldn't mind getting it converted to a front wheel if it could be done without too much cost


Just go to a machine shop and get a new axle turned. 8)

I did this to convert an old Zipp Predator disc. I had two axles made and plan on using the second to convert my old road Zipp 950. Currently I just have a Vittoria EVO CX glued on the Predator. With the second disc, I'll be able to glue on a Pista EVO CL for indoor only use.

I can photograph and get the measurements of my spare axle if you like?

Otherwise if you want to convert for front wheel use, there may be issues with the hub body hitting the forks? I know Alex has converted a Zipp successfully to use as a front wheel...
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Re: Time for new Track wheels

Postby mikesbytes » Tue Oct 29, 2013 11:28 am

I think that old wheel is a zipp 950, I'll check when I get home.

R U in Sydney? where did you get the axle made up?
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Re: Time for new Track wheels

Postby dalai47 » Wed Oct 30, 2013 10:24 am

I'm in Melbourne - had a guy I knew through rock climbing make them for me...

The Predator, 1150 and 950 all used the same hub as far as I am aware; black hub with the screw on cluster thread on one side and the track and lock nut thread on the other. Easy to source new bearing and replace with a new axle. I'll hunt through my parts bin an try and photograph it plus the disc with the axle fitted.
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Re: Time for new Track wheels

Postby mikesbytes » Wed Oct 30, 2013 1:17 pm

thanks dailia, I'm interested in solutions for this wheel.

I've also wondered about replacing the caps (for want of a better word) to make it a pure front wheel
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