Shimano r500 vs Ksyrium Elites
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Shimano r500 vs Ksyrium Elites
Postby Giantrider1997 » Wed Nov 28, 2012 9:02 pm
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Re: Shimano r500 vs Ksyrium Elites
Postby toppity » Thu Nov 29, 2012 9:28 am
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Re: Shimano r500 vs Ksyrium Elites
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Re: Shimano r500 vs Ksyrium Elites
Postby Giantrider1997 » Sat Dec 01, 2012 6:01 pm
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Re: Shimano r500 vs Ksyrium Elites
Postby usernameforme » Sat Dec 01, 2012 6:16 pm
If you want to go faster, there is some merit in wheels, but I would save my money for training equipment. Don't buy upgrades, ride up grades
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Re: Shimano r500 vs Ksyrium Elites
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Re: Shimano r500 vs Ksyrium Elites
Postby antipodean » Sun Dec 02, 2012 6:03 pm
Fitness, strength and experience will provide far better results than new wheels.Giantrider1997 wrote:What should my priorities be in terms of stiffness, weight and aero for criteriums
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Re: Shimano r500 vs Ksyrium Elites
Postby boss » Mon Dec 03, 2012 11:33 am
I'd probably argue that if the OP spent an extra 10 hours (at a cost of $50 p/hour) riding his bike, the gains would be less noticeable than if he bought a set of wheels for $500.antipodean wrote:Fitness, strength and experience will provide far better results than new wheels.Giantrider1997 wrote:What should my priorities be in terms of stiffness, weight and aero for criteriums
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Re: Shimano r500 vs Ksyrium Elites
Postby antipodean » Mon Dec 03, 2012 1:23 pm
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Re: Shimano r500 vs Ksyrium Elites
Postby boss » Mon Dec 03, 2012 1:33 pm
And just like my silly analogy comparing the cost/benefit of time vs wheels, the OP is hardly going to buy a set of wheels and then say stuff it, I don't need to train now, I'm a sure bet to win now.
Either way if you're going to buy wheels at some point in the future anyway, the money isn't a 'waste'. We aren't talking outlandish amounts of money here.
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Re: Shimano r500 vs Ksyrium Elites
Postby Chris249 » Wed Dec 12, 2012 10:14 am
So in reality, the effect of getting better wheels is completely swamped by the effect of being a better rider. Even if you are a mid-pack state level age racer (ie front end of club B or C, probably, so pretty competent) you are on average only going to improve one place from moving all the way from box section alloy to deep dish.
TTs are not a perfect test for crits, of course, but it's an interesting way to look at how much wheels affect performance. As a 48 year old novice I was B Grade in crits using second-hand 500s, because I kept my old (fourth hand?) Zipps for TTs.
One old aero test on a French site showed that Aksiums were less aero than R550s by some way. I know the 550s are not 500s, but Alex here referred to the 500s as quite aero for the buck, IIRC, sop maybe there is not much aero difference.
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Re: Shimano r500 vs Ksyrium Elites
Postby jules21 » Mon Dec 17, 2012 8:52 pm
2 km/h extra? i highly doubt it. we're talking much smaller differences that that.jimboss wrote:the performance benefit of a new set of light wheels (couple of extra kays p/h average speed?)
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