Moron Motorists #3
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Re: Moron Motorists #3
Postby ColinOldnCranky » Sat Dec 01, 2012 10:06 am
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Re: Moron Motorists #3
Postby jasonc » Sat Dec 01, 2012 11:55 am
Kenzo wrote:IMO he did claim the lane, the MM was well over the lines to pass then turn back in.jasonc wrote:I'd be claiming the lane at that pointInTheWoods wrote:Left hook
I misread it. i thought it was 2 lanes each way
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Re: Moron Motorists #3
Postby Biffidus » Sat Dec 01, 2012 5:20 pm
This is a perfect example of why it is worth buying an Air-Zound. Did it prevent the accident? Perhaps. Does the driver know that he screwed up? Definitely!InTheWoods wrote:Left hook. Car begins braking hard as it gets parallel, doesn't quite get past me, then heads for the corner.
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Re: Moron Motorists #3
Postby il padrone » Sat Dec 01, 2012 5:29 pm
Geez you've got some dumb-nuts up there in BrissieInTheWoods wrote:Left hook. Car begins braking hard as it gets parallel, doesn't quite get past me, then heads for the corner.
AZ gets some action, plus I was managing to stop in time (hard on the rear brakes - must swap AZ to left hand) if that didn't work because once they started braking it seemed there was a good chance of a left hook coming up.
With that centre island coming up, making the left carriageway too narrow to share safely with an overtaking car, I'd still be claiming the lane, riding where the bike logo is at 0:08, not to the left of it. Similar to the safest practice on approach to single lane roundabouts.
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Re: Moron Motorists #3
Postby jules21 » Sat Dec 01, 2012 5:46 pm
agreed. in her mind, she just approached the intersection at normal speed, braked, then commenced turning. what else could she do? it's not her fault.. the basic concept of feathering the throttle or lifting off for a few seconds to stay behind the cyclist is beyond these drivers' skill level. i'm sure she was left wondering what went wrong.human909 wrote:Classic case of the "must get past syndrome". The female driver, the wide berth given and the type of car all suggest to me that the driver wasn't being deliberately rude and aggressive. She simply was not a competent driver who could not judge your speed or conclude that is was safer and sensible to wait.InTheWoods wrote:Left hook. Car begins braking hard as it gets parallel, doesn't quite get past me, then heads for the corner.
AZ gets some action, plus I was managing to stop in time (hard on the rear brakes - must swap AZ to left hand) if that didn't work because once they started braking it seemed there was a good chance of a left hook coming up.
In most cases I would prefer an rude & aggressive competent driver to an incompetent one.
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Re: Moron Motorists #3
Postby zero » Sat Dec 01, 2012 5:49 pm
If it looks anything like a choke point or an intersection, ride in the middle of the lane.Biffidus wrote:This is a perfect example of why it is worth buying an Air-Zound. Did it prevent the accident? Perhaps. Does the driver know that he screwed up? Definitely!InTheWoods wrote:Left hook. Car begins braking hard as it gets parallel, doesn't quite get past me, then heads for the corner.
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Re: Moron Motorists #3
Postby Mulger bill » Sat Dec 01, 2012 7:44 pm
Won't stop some of 'em, I've had them overtake on the wrong side of pedestrian islands before.zero wrote:If it looks anything like a choke point or an intersection, ride in the middle of the lane.
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Re: Moron Motorists #3
Postby zero » Sat Dec 01, 2012 9:50 pm
Ditto, but there is only 1 thing I care about - and that is that they don't hit me, which they won't try and do if its clear they can't fit.Mulger bill wrote:Won't stop some of 'em, I've had them overtake on the wrong side of pedestrian islands before.zero wrote:If it looks anything like a choke point or an intersection, ride in the middle of the lane.
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Re: Moron Motorists #3
Postby Mulger bill » Sun Dec 02, 2012 12:15 pm
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Re: Moron Motorists #3
Postby KonaCommuter » Sun Dec 02, 2012 4:49 pm
Good memory though this one was quite closer and more brown trouser worthybychosis wrote:
Yes scary close, and if I'm not mistaken that corner has had similar incidents previously. Time for more assertive lane claiming? or a quick side trip on the footpath?
I'm leaning towards jumping onto the footpath although there's a blind driveway on the corner so I think it's just going to be a corner where I'll lose all my hard earned momentum. Meh, I'd rather lose momentum than come a cropper from one of our MM friends
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Re: Moron Motorists #3
Postby il padrone » Sun Dec 02, 2012 5:57 pm
I was about to say, school crossing would mean 40kmh limit when the flags are out. If such behaviour is on the cards I'd say it's time to call the boys in blue and get them to stake the road with speed cameras. A few nice fine file should blunt the toolsMulger bill wrote:Agreed, but... This is a school crossing and the view of oncoming traffic is none too flash. Should an opposing move prsent at the same time, this tool is likely to unthinkingly swerve straight over the top of me. While my personal safety is paramount in how I ride, I'd hate to secore it at the cost of an innocent. You'd think that I'm able to match the speed limit in that section might make a difference...
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Re: Moron Motorists #3
Postby hannos » Mon Dec 03, 2012 10:32 am
Mulger bill wrote:Won't stop some of 'em, I've had them overtake on the wrong side of pedestrian islands before.zero wrote:If it looks anything like a choke point or an intersection, ride in the middle of the lane.
Ditto, on a raised zebra crossing ourtside a Primary school at that...
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Re: Moron Motorists #3
Postby Undertow » Mon Dec 03, 2012 3:23 pm
Which is still basically the gutter. Take the lane and force them to change lanes to pass.Crawf wrote:Nope, a good metre out.Undertow wrote:
From the footage it looked like you were already basically in the gutter.
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Re: Moron Motorists #3
Postby Kenzo » Mon Dec 03, 2012 3:58 pm
Undertow wrote:Which is still basically the gutter.<SNIP>Crawf wrote:Nope, a good metre out.Undertow wrote:
From the footage it looked like you were already basically in the gutter.
Disagree entirely. A metre out from the gutter does not equate to in the gutter... not even "basically".
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Re: Moron Motorists #3
Postby cp123 » Mon Dec 03, 2012 5:25 pm
(sorry if that's not clear...)
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Re: Moron Motorists #3
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Re: Moron Motorists #3
Postby InTheWoods » Mon Dec 03, 2012 7:48 pm
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Re: Moron Motorists #3
Postby Postieboy » Mon Dec 03, 2012 10:40 pm
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Re: Moron Motorists #3
Postby il padrone » Mon Dec 03, 2012 10:55 pm
CP, I've been getting the same response lately using Firefox. When it happens I just click on the 'Watch on Youtube' button, bottom right of the video screen and a new window opens with no problemscp123 wrote: whenever i click on the videos here and it starts to play, i only get a strip at the top and at the bottom and the video itself bit doesn't show here.
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Re: Moron Motorists #3
Postby find_bruce » Tue Dec 04, 2012 7:47 am
Apparently this MM didn't take kindly to that & met up with me shortly thereafter, asking me to repeat what I said so I did. MM protested that he had plenty of time so I pointed out that as I had to brake & swerve to avoid him that he was wrong.
When MM realised I was not going to be intimidated he drove off.
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Re: Moron Motorists #3
Postby DentedHead » Tue Dec 04, 2012 9:08 am
Postieboy wrote:This driver I'm sure saw me but just went anyway. Unfortunately this sort of thing happens all too frequently - after all I'm only a cyclist
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Looks to me like that MM pulled out in front of the oncoming white taxi too. Maybe he has just running late for his accident?
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Re: Moron Motorists #3
Postby boss » Tue Dec 04, 2012 10:12 am
Scared the crap outta me, and sure enough the lights were red and the driver was stopped in banked up traffic.
Banged on the cars window and gave them a mouthful, they were yelling back but wouldn't wind down their window when I invited them to...
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Re: Moron Motorists #3
Postby InTheWoods » Tue Dec 04, 2012 10:16 am
The 808 type are good enough and about $36.
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Re: Moron Motorists #3
Postby GraemeL » Tue Dec 04, 2012 10:36 am
+1InTheWoods wrote:Jimboss, time to get a camera? That way you don't need to bang on the window, you just report them and it feels much better ... and is probably a lot more effective in improving their behaviour in future.
The 808 type are good enough and about $36.
I don't go anywhere, either by car or bike without my cameras. The Jumbo's are used on the bikes and the GoPro in the car. These Jumbos and the 808's are cheap to buy, give very good results and will allow the police to see exactly what took place.
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Re: Moron Motorists #3
Postby human909 » Tue Dec 04, 2012 10:49 am
Consider it from the motorist's point of view. I was driving along in my own lane when a cyclist merged into my lane next to me without even looking. He then had the nerve to bang like a lunatic on my window and insist it was my fault. I did nothing wrong, I was travelling at a constant speed in the centre of my lane.
(I'm not defending the motorist for a close shave. A good road user would have seen an up coming conflict and ensured that it did not occur, this applies equally to cyclists and motorists. The description given earlier suggests the rider did not check for oncoming traffic nor take action to ensure no conflict.)
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