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This is a GoPro Hero2 and Sony Action Cam direct comparison on a Mountain Bike for Bicycles Network Australia. We were unable to get hold of a GoPro Hero3.
This is a short video with a few different short sequences and different split screens for comparison (screen in screen / top & bottom / side by side)
I won't create a longer video unless there is a specific interest. As always, youtube degrades the quality
Link: Sony Action Cam verses GoPro Hero2
What do we notice, the GoPro Hero2 has more colour whereas the Sony Action Cam has sharper details and with the steady shot function does a wonderful job of eliminating a lot of shakes - it actually stabilises the video quite well. For the GoPro we used a K-Edge GO BIG Pro mount and for the Sony Action Cam we used the Sony handlebar mount specificially for this camera which worked quite well. The Hero2 tends to soften details where as the Sony has super sharp contrasts - both dealt with changing light quite well and filming at 1920x1080 as you would expect, for smooth moving footage they both deliver great quality, likewise with faster moving bumpy terrain they both have the same challenges capturing fast moving footage.
The GoPro was quieter but there were still some rattles while the Sony has a more noticeable rattle - for either camera this is solved by padding out the waterproof casing to eliminate movement.
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I am looking for a cam for Christmas (to suggest as a gift for me) GoPro seem to be the standard for off rd adventures, like I would like to capture. I want something that will handle the dark/light transition well and be mud/dirt/water proof/resistant. Possibly also use as a commuter cam, but for the very short distance I actually ride on the road is hardly worth it. I am thinking that chest mount will be the most common position so that would seem to rule out contour style cams.
Overall I think I prefer the footage from the GoPro over the Sony above.
Any other suggestions?
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You should be getting 2.5 hrs out of the battery.
Are you sure it is the battery that dies and not the memory card?
Sometimes mystery data can be taking up space on the SD cards while still registering 0 files, so please check under properties (PC) or disk utilities (mac) to see how much memory is available. If there is not enough available memory, you will need to reformat the card in order to free up the space.
If you are using a Mac to download and delete files, make sure you delete the files from the memory card AND the trash can before you disconnect the camera from the computer. If you do not do a complete delete, then the card will show ‘0' files but the space will not actually be cleared. Again, you will need to reformat the card if it was not fully cleared.
Not the card...went and got a class 10 32Gig SD card on the weekend and have formatted it too so have got plenty of storage.. have reverted back to 720-30 to try and extend the battery life. Wanted to use 1080-30 but battery died after or just before an hour and a half.
Bit disappointed on this fact.
Also found that on hot days with waterproof housing, the insides fog up which then causes video output to be crap. When this happens you can barely see number plates, sort of defeats the purpose of having the camera. I have switched the "door" to be the "ventilated" door and this seems to have fixed the issue, but havent hit a really hot day yet since swapping either. I ride in all sorts of weather so would prefer to have water proof housing on at all times to try and prevent the need to stop and swap the "doors" to ensure the camera doesnt get wet. At the moment I carry the full waterproof "door" with me just in case.
##EDIT: I copy the files over to my PC and then delete from SD card...always to ensure I have always got enough space
On my underwater camera I use a small silica gel pack to absorb moisture. Will one fit in the GoPro housing? Also try to load the camera in the case at the same ambient temp as it wil be used in.
The full waterproof housing is not required unless you submerge the camera into water (like snorkelling or scuba diving). I regularly use the "ventilated" door on my GoPro, in the rain, without a problem. It certainly does help with the fogging problem. I used to keep my GoPro resolution to R5 (1080). I regularly post videos to YouTube. After using it for about three years, I have found using R2 (720) to be fine. I yell out the number plate, during the incidentor after it regardless which resolution I use to make sure I have an audio capture of it as well as a video capture. Even with R5 res, there were many times and situations where I didn't catch the license plate number. R5 also takes up about twice as much space so an hour ride could easily be 7GB on R5. The police were more than happy with the my voice caught on film reading out the license plate number and the video footage of the car. R2 caught the license plate number but they really didn't require a visual of it, in my circumstance.
Regardless, I also have four batteries for my GoPro. I have the extended housing door which allows me to plug in two batteries. I regularly rotate my batteries to keep them in good condition and when I'm riding in an event, I grab the double battery housing with two batteries connected and I can get 6 hours out of it. I simply take two spare charged batteries if it is a two day event.
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You can get inserts that will fix the fog issue, GoPro has developed it’s own Anti-Fog Inserts for the HD HERO camera. The kit includes 3 sets of desiccant inserts, and retails at $14.99. Each set lasts 4-5 uses and can be dried in an oven (3 minutes) to be reused.
You could also try a couple of DIY options first,
1. 1min blast of dry air-conditioned air either from a car vent or building aircon will fix the issue with a waterproof housing.
Hold the open case in front of the vent and the camera (separately) for 1 min, let the air circulate inside the SD slot and battery compartment (open slightly), then assemble and close while still in front of the vent (6'' away). Don't open until filming job is finished and keep in cool place out of the sun till ready to start filming. You could also place some kitchen tissue paper towel squares in the space between the camera and the housing at the side and bottom.
2. Use saliva on the inside of the case (think snorkelling) and then wipe it.
3. Buy some RainX and spray the inside of the case then wipe.
4. You could also try and find some of those small desiccant inserts that you find in things you buy, put them in the oven on low for a few minutes to reactivate them and then fit them into the gaps inside the housing.
As far as the battery goes, how do you charge it, connected to your PC or a wall powered charger?
I forgot to mention that I only use the ventilated back, I have also drilled small vent holes in the case. When I use it on the bike, I carry a roll of electrical tape with me, in case of a down pour I can just cover the holes with the tape. You could also just use a small plastic bag and elastic band if you wanted.
At home I recharge via the PC overnight...at work I have a wall mount...so doing both methods....didnt think it would matter really
So charging it via PC and Wall, it lasts the same amount of time? Or haven't you tested it?
The reason I ask is because the USB cable may be faulty or the charger may not be charging properly, It could very well be an issue with the battery itself and therefore you will need to buy a new one, but at least by trying different things you are ruling out other possible causes. You may also want to give the metal pins on the battery and where they connect in the camera, a rub with an ordinary rubber, this will clean the contacts.
I have always had two batteries, this allows me to rotate the batteries and also have a spare in case it is needed.
I have had so many questions about how I did it I will be putting a blog post together showing exactly how easy it is.
This angle really brings home how much we constantly make small steering adjustments as we ride. The front wheel is never pointing straight ahead for very long.
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Am using the avidemux 2.6 editing program....can anyone help out in pointing out how to slow down video and record it in slow mo. Have tried playing with the "configure" option under Video output but with no luck so far
And that's tough enough to hold it on yeah? Sweet.
I use 3M Dual Lock, which is NOT Velcro. It is a much stronger connection. You can get it easily enough on eBay.
I agree with the 3M Dual Lock, it is very good, unlike normal Velcro, Dual Lock will hold it nice and tight with minimal movement. If you are wanting to mount the Jumbo to the bike, check out the Mounting FAQ’s & DIY Mounts in my sig for some ideas.
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