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Boutique steel racing frame recommendations

Postby lunar_c » Tue Dec 11, 2012 1:15 pm

Hi all,

I love my steel bikes but prefer to run modern parts for lightness and adjustability, the 1" threaded steerer is a drag sometimes when looking for a good fork to run and seat posts etc.

I'm looking for a nice steel frame that will take a 1 & 1/8" steerer, and 27.2 or other modern standard size seat post in triple butted steel to make a lightish crit racer out of. All I can think of is the Soma (Tange infiniti) and Surly frames (4130) has anyone got any other suggestions?

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Re: Boutique steel racing frame recommendations

Postby elantra » Tue Dec 11, 2012 1:41 pm

I know these are in Sydney but worth considering...

http://www.bikeexchange.com.au/bikes/list?search%5BbikeMakes%5D=2486&search%5BbikeTypes%5D=33&search%5BisBike%5D=0&gclid=CLW0xLS2kbQCFadMpgoduTMAFQ

OOps sorry - that appears to be a Scandium alloy , not steel !
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Re: Boutique steel racing frame recommendations

Postby bardygrub » Tue Dec 11, 2012 1:59 pm

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Re: Boutique steel racing frame recommendations

Postby humanbeing » Tue Dec 11, 2012 2:02 pm

De Rosa Neo Primato
Tommasini Tecno
Bob Jackson
Mercian
Salsa
Serotta
Colossi
Pegoretti
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Peter Bundy
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Re: Boutique steel racing frame recommendations

Postby MichaelB » Tue Dec 11, 2012 2:58 pm

You forgot Cinelli Super Corsa

There are plenty of NOS frames about on ebay and other sites like Matuz Master (sp ?)

Depends on how much you want to pay and what the key criteria are.
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Re: Boutique steel racing frame recommendations

Postby TDC » Tue Dec 11, 2012 3:25 pm

MichaelB wrote:You forgot Cinelli Super Corsa

There are plenty of NOS frames about on <a href="http://www.ebay.com/" rel="nofollow" target="_blank" title="Link added by VigLink" class="vglnk"><span>ebay</span></a> and other sites like Matuz Master (sp ?)

Depends on how much you want to pay and what the key criteria are.


Nice frames, but I think they 1" threaded fork
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Re: Boutique steel racing frame recommendations

Postby RonK » Tue Dec 11, 2012 3:29 pm

You did say boutique:
- Tommasini Techno
- Colnago Master
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Re: Boutique steel racing frame recommendations

Postby lunar_c » Tue Dec 11, 2012 3:33 pm

Thanks for all the replies guys I'll start checking those out.

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Re: Boutique steel racing frame recommendations

Postby booge » Tue Dec 11, 2012 4:07 pm

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Re: Boutique steel racing frame recommendations

Postby MichaelB » Tue Dec 11, 2012 5:13 pm

TDC wrote:
MichaelB wrote:You forgot Cinelli Super Corsa

There are plenty of NOS frames about on <a href="http://www.ebay.com/" rel="nofollow" target="_blank" title="Link added by VigLink" class="vglnk"><span>ebay</span></a> and other sites like Matuz Master (sp ?)

Depends on how much you want to pay and what the key criteria are.


Nice frames, but I think they 1" threaded fork


Some are, but many aren't
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Re: Boutique steel racing frame recommendations

Postby TDC » Tue Dec 11, 2012 5:33 pm

Indeed...I stand corrected. Some lovely pics of one in this thread

viewtopic.php?f=23&t=58727
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Re: Boutique steel racing frame recommendations

Postby lunar_c » Wed Dec 12, 2012 11:01 am

I think I should save my pennies for a Masi Gran Criterium ... Mmm!
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Re: Boutique steel racing frame recommendations

Postby brentono » Wed Dec 12, 2012 11:28 am

Ben,
The handbuilt M.H.Jones (Perth) is still available, BTW :D but probably too small for you.
But this could be another alternative way to go, and fulfill most of your requirements.
Get a nice steel frame and go with the carbon fork option (below)
Best of both worlds, and works so well. It's a nice ride. Just a thought.
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Re: Boutique steel racing frame recommendations

Postby MichaelB » Wed Dec 12, 2012 1:19 pm

Here was my build of a NOS Cinelli Nuovo SuperCorsa

http://www.bicycles.net.au/forums/viewtopic.php?f=9&t=24439&p=387611&hilit=cinelli+nuovo+supercorsa#p387611

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Don't have it any more :cry:

Used a 1 1/8" Columbus carbon fork
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Re: Boutique steel racing frame recommendations

Postby TDC » Wed Dec 12, 2012 1:23 pm

Very Nice...only spoiled by the brooks :P
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Re: Boutique steel racing frame recommendations

Postby boyracer » Wed Dec 12, 2012 1:48 pm

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Re: Boutique steel racing frame recommendations

Postby jacks1071 » Wed Dec 12, 2012 2:28 pm

boyracer wrote:http://www.fixed.org.au/forums/f42/kumo-cycles-genki-road-26113/
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That is really nice.

More photos here:

http://www.kumocycles.com/frame-gallery.html

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Re: Boutique steel racing frame recommendations

Postby seddo » Wed Dec 12, 2012 4:12 pm

+1 to above , Keith is in the progress of building mine - stoked with his commitment and communication
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Re: Boutique steel racing frame recommendations

Postby il padrone » Wed Dec 12, 2012 6:09 pm

TDC wrote:Nice frames, but I think they 1" threaded fork

For nearly 100 of the last 110 years of the TdF, that is all the master pros rode on. Not sure I see what the problem with 1" steerers really is.
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Re: Boutique steel racing frame recommendations

Postby il padrone » Wed Dec 12, 2012 6:22 pm

boyracer wrote:http://www.fixed.org.au/forums/f42/kumo-cycles-genki-road-26113/
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Re: Boutique steel racing frame recommendations

Postby Jean » Wed Dec 12, 2012 7:42 pm

MichaelB wrote:There are plenty of NOS frames about on ebay and other sites like Matuz Master (sp ?)


I think Matuzmaster is kaput. I cannot Google him (or her) up at all. There are legacy links, but all of them are dead as far as I can see.

I'm looking hard at a new steel road frame in 2013 and my (not yet complete) list of possibilities is:

Custom build options (excluding Baum & Llewellyn, which are extremely pricey)

1. Kumo
2. Paconi/Cecil Walker
3. Bobo
4. Europa
5. Joe Cosgrove
6. Paconi
7. Colossi

Off the peg

1. Soma Smoothie
2. De Rosa Neo Primato
3. Enigma Elite (semi-custom)
4. De Rosa Corum
5. Masi Gran Criterium
6. Colossi (Zona)
7. Champione (Zona)
8. Genesis Equilibrium (Reynolds 725)
9. Jamis Eclipse

I think I'm leaning towards a Colossi as the prices are pretty good, though whether I go for off-the-peg or custom is as yet undecided.

I'm not looking for a crosser, but this appeals (part from that chunky saddle)

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Re: Boutique steel racing frame recommendations

Postby humanbeing » Wed Dec 12, 2012 8:08 pm

Matuzmaster doesn't have a website anymore. He still trades on fleabay.
I'm not sure what his seller name is but if you search on Coppi frames he's the one selling NOS Thron frames and other bits and bobs.
Shame as he had some good gear, I got a great wheelset from him.
I can personally recommend a frame by Peter Bundy in Sydney
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Re: Boutique steel racing frame recommendations

Postby jacks1071 » Wed Dec 12, 2012 10:00 pm

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Re: Boutique steel racing frame recommendations

Postby boyracer » Thu Dec 13, 2012 8:35 am

il padrone wrote:
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:roll:

..and so useful to the OP/thread.... I can just see him lining up for the crits on a 'priceless' collectable completely tweaked 650B with racks.

On another note, what happened to that guy that wanted to drillium a repco until failure? I haven't been around for a while.
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Re: Boutique steel racing frame recommendations

Postby il padrone » Thu Dec 13, 2012 9:30 am

boyracer wrote:..and so useful to the OP/thread.... I can just see him lining up for the crits on a 'priceless' collectable completely tweaked 650B with racks.

TIC, in case you missed the razz.

Anyway part of the point was that steel has a long history of being lightweight. Look hard enough and the OP may find a classic lightweight frame on ebay or other second-hand sales.
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